The Walking Dead Season 5 (WILL contain spoilers)

degrassinoel · 25-11-2014 1:52am

Spoilers ahoy, don't be reading it if you don't wanna be spoilered for this week's episode

Yeah that was stupid, seen it coming a mile off too..

Still the one "good" cop according to the new skinny hospital guy turns out to be a sneaky SoaB - tbh i thought she'd go through that window, it didnt look that sturdy

I have a sneaky suspicion that Beth is gonna die soon, something about how she said that she wanted a comatose Carol to know she was there.

Carol better pull through!

Fallschirmjager · 25-11-2014 3:41pm

yep i have to agree i think beth is toast...IMHO. i hope carol isnt but i cant see her walking out of a hospital with her injuries...so maybe she is toast also...but apparently she has been acting in the second half but that could just be flashbacks i guess...

there is this disturbing story however

http://io9.com/the-walking-dead-midseason-finale-made-daryl-cry-for-an-1661805360/all

now i know actors get all emotional...but an hour...UNLESS the unthinkable happens...they wouldn't do that...would they?

RoyalMarine · 25-11-2014 5:14pm

My bet is on Carol or Beth.

Sad to see either of them leave the show

maximoose · 25-11-2014 5:15pm

I would have gladly killed them both off at the start of the season

Carol has redeemed herself somewhat after Terminus though, so I'll be happy if Beth gets violently torn to pieces by walkers.

Zomg Okay · 25-11-2014 6:22pm

Either Carol or Beth dying is so predictable that I'm clinging on to the hope that they won't kill anyone just to surprise us.

Zomg Okay · 25-11-2014 6:33pm

Mod previous post removed (potential next season spoiler):

I really feel like stuff like that should be tagged as future spoilers.

Japandamo · 26-11-2014 1:20am

What with Carol's history of being a victim of abuse, and the cop-woman-whose-name-I-forget's tendency to lash out, I was expecting there to be some sort of confrontation between the two of them, in which they both die. It just seemed to be going that way with the shelter for abuse victims etc and the general trend of TV characters having to face their past at some point.

Don't see things panning out that way now that it looks like everything's going to get shot to hell! Except for the dying part, maybe.

Beth has grown on me though, I'd miss her I think, now that she's toughened up and doesn't sing irritating songs.

Paddy Cow · 01-12-2014 12:58am

Carol dies, turns and bites Beth and Daryl has to shoot them both :eek:

Evd-Burner · 01-12-2014 4:24pm

I had tears in my eyes, however it was not as bad as I thought it was going to be, kind of knew it had to be Beth.

allibastor · 01-12-2014 4:28pm

Is this actually what happens?

degrassinoel · 01-12-2014 9:59pm

what Evd said yeah

midseason end.. looks like it was just skinny Noah that went with the group too

Zomg Okay · 02-12-2014 1:42am

Aww ****. I'm so sad.

allibastor · 02-12-2014 9:51am

That was seriously stupid on Beths part wasn't it.

Evd-Burner · 02-12-2014 10:49am

It sure was, they could have done it better.

allibastor · 02-12-2014 11:17am

Yeah,

I just don't understand what she was thinking. Also, what did she mean by she now understands how things are done around here.

degrassinoel · 02-12-2014 11:53am

Having a ward was essentially having a slave - they could earn their freedom when they'd paid back their 'hospital and food bill' which was never. The cops were living in relative luxury, while the wards were treated like crap by them. A vicious circle

Fallschirmjager · 02-12-2014 12:19pm

Rick becomes 95% shane in the car...loved it...

glad to see carol is still there...and daryl, i really though he was going to go full ak47 auto on the lot of them at one point...

poor maggie is the last of her clan now...

the driving by abraham, hahaha, classic...HE IS BACK!!!

as for morgan -- again it looks as if he is a few weeks behind, the magazines at the school were more worn looking, the leg was gone....i am guessing they are all still heading to DC? otherwise he is in deep crap.

Zomg Okay · 02-12-2014 3:25pm

Dawn said they always come back while looking at Beth. I think Beth interpreted that to mean that either Dawn wasn't going to just let them leave, or at the very least would try to re-kidnap Beth further down the line. That's what I'm going with anyway.

Also, regarding the intro scene. I guess you could say Bob got... Rick-rolled. :cool:

allibastor · 02-12-2014 3:49pm

degrassinoel wrote: »

Having a ward was essentially having a slave - they could earn their freedom when they'd paid back their 'hospital and food bill' which was never. The cops were living in relative luxury, while the wards were treated like crap by them. A vicious circle

No, I get that much, but why was she surprised by it is all, saying she figured out how it worked. Then why try and stab with a scissors when Dawn had her gun upwards anyway.

maximoose · 02-12-2014 3:53pm

Laughed so much at this. Badass Rick is great.

degrassinoel · 02-12-2014 3:54pm

i think because she knew that Rick's group would leave without interfering after they'd got Beth back and Noah decided it was too much trouble to stay with Rick's group. She broke the stalemate by her knowingly futile attack.

This is the same girl who was suicidal on the farm, if she had of went with Rick she'd always carry that burden with her, what if this and that.. and i guess she thought it was the right thing to do for the sake of herself if not for the wards

allibastor · 02-12-2014 3:57pm

degrassinoel wrote: »

i think because she knew that Rick's group would leave without interfering after they'd got Beth back and Noah decided it was too much trouble to stay with Rick's group. She broke the stalemate by her knowingly futile attack.

This is the same girl who was suicidal on the farm, if she had of went with Rick she'd always carry that burden with her, what if this and that.. and i guess she thought it was the right thing to do for the sake of herself if not for the wards

But in the end it didn't help anyone did it. Did Noah end up staying or going.
Also no-one else ended up going, so all she proved was that in fact Dawn was right, people will lie down and take it if its easier. A moot point so to speak

degrassinoel · 02-12-2014 5:11pm

i think Noah went yeah, but it looked like that was it

Barna77 · 03-12-2014 12:07am

Just saw it.

Whaaaaa?

And what the f was she thinking..

BigDuffman · 03-12-2014 12:39am

Well that whole debacle was utter poo. Why bother with that story line. They didn't make the hospital an ominous place or Dawn a bad enough character. The hospital even though the people had to work for their keep wasn't a terrible place at all!!!! They had electricity a doctor and an armed force, who for the most part wanted to protect people from walkers (or why else would the patrol?). Then a weak nod towards freedom / slavery theme and beth for no good reason goes and does that. What did she achieve or what was she hoping to achieve. If nothing else she new a shootout would ensue?! Absolutely ridiculous. The more I think on this the more it annoys me.
Weak.
It was shaping up to be a good episode.

Backstreet Moyes · 03-12-2014 10:45am

Who was the person in the church in the last scene?

maximoose · 03-12-2014 10:59am

That was Morgan, Rick's friend from season 1

Chip Whitley · 05-12-2014 3:41pm

I assumed Beth stabbed Dawn as if to bring about big change in the hospital. The same way Dawn killed 'Hanson'. I thought she was trying to kill her, but maybe she was trying to make her look weak in front of the rest. Killing her would make more sense.

Rick and Daryls faces tho... pulled on the heartstrings big time.

The thing that was odd to me was that Rick and the gang wouldn't stay. It seems a great set-up and if they could insert themselves into positions of power. Then again, for storyline reasons they have to move on.

Will they stay in or around the city I wonder. It looks like a lot of the walkers have moved out of the city in herds. I'm sure there are still buildings chock-a-block with them though.

maximoose · 05-12-2014 3:48pm

Right in the feels.

allibastor · 05-12-2014 7:34pm

Brendão wrote: »

I assumed Beth stabbed Dawn as if to bring about big change in the hospital. The same way Dawn killed 'Hanson'. I thought she was trying to kill her, but maybe she was trying to make her look weak in front of the rest. Killing her would make more sense.

Rick and Daryls faces tho... pulled on the heartstrings big time.

The thing that was odd to me was that Rick and the gang wouldn't stay. It seems a great set-up and if they could insert themselves into positions of power. Then again, for storyline reasons they have to move on.

Will they stay in or around the city I wonder. It looks like a lot of the walkers have moved out of the city in herds. I'm sure there are still buildings chock-a-block with them though.

I think they end up going to Washington anyway. Seeing Morgan come back I would think they will follow the hilltop story.

The more I think of it, I think Beth just wanted to show dawn wasn't as tough as she thought

degrassinoel · 09-12-2014 12:33am

or her show dawn that beth wasnt as weak as dawn thought

Micky Dolenz · 11-12-2014 6:37pm

Old but fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4mFF-AeuA8

Fallschirmjager · 18-12-2014 9:44pm

Lol Micky ...the iPads are ingenious, the last one about who survives is priceless, great find! Lol

Sand · 19-12-2014 2:38pm

allibastor wrote: »

I think they end up going to Washington anyway. Seeing Morgan come back I would think they will follow the hilltop story.

I'd be surprised if they ever leave the state of Georgia, physically or otherwise. The state offers significant incentives for filming that a show like the Walking Dead relies on. Also the same theme or plot lines can be run in Georgia, there is nothing about the plot lines that specifically requires Washington. They changed Rick Grimes from being a sheriff in Kentucky to being a sheriff in a fictional county in Georgia afterall. The motivation to go there has already been removed.

I think that was one of the flaws of the comic series characters and locations were introduced and dismissed very rapidly, and then reintroduced again under a different name. Locations changed, the basic plotline from the last location was repeated. It was most apparent to me with Tyreese and Abraham. Both essentially are the same alpha male types who play exactly the same role in the story. They are physically stronger than Rick, they initially question and threaten his leadership, but Rick is ultimately victorious in converting them into a right hand man.

The TV series gets criticism but I think it has been a little more disciplined in not having a cast of essentially identical characters/locations. It has succeeded in clearly defining Tyreese from Abraham in my opinion in a way the comics never really bothered doing.

Saralee4 · 30-01-2015 3:04pm

when is it back on?

also not sure about other series but in series four there was a theme of 'you don't get to come back' to what you were before. The irish girl in the first episode talks about how she cant come back from the things shes done. Rick cant come back and he finally realises that in the last episode when he tears out the throat of Joe.

Series 5 I think is 'your either the butcher or the cattle'. The cannibals/hunters live by this mantra but we see Rick and co going by the same thought. They savagely kill the hunters in the church and although the group try to find another way to go in and save beth (although Rick was against this from the start) , they realise they cant trust the police officer when he attacks sasha. I don't think the old Rick would have knocked him down like that. But he doesn't have any remorse about it. Any other thoughts on this?

degrassinoel · 30-01-2015 3:52pm

I believe the new series is starting on or around February 8th

I'll setup a new thread for it

Micky Dolenz · 30-01-2015 7:36pm

Old Rick is dead and gone, he is with O'Leary in the grave.

Years on the road will teach you to become more ruthless, when he starts fcuking over innocents it will get dark, but right now he has just naturally evolved.

The Walking Dead Season 5 (WILL contain spoilers)

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