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Hughs Bridge Improvements

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  • Registered Users Posts: 553 ✭✭✭BASHIR


    It's going to be like that all week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Why this work can't be done at night is beyond me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Gipo3


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    Why this work can't be done at night is beyond me.
    Oh, you're some sort of expert on road surfacing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭rizzodun


    It was supposed to start in October, and last 9 months, that get's us to July, so I'd guess they may be behind, also, the Fleadh is here in a few weeks and they really need to have put it to bed by then, not sure if it has anything with needing to do the surfacing during the day, but I'm no expert on that either, before Gipo3 points it out...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Gipo3 wrote: »
    Oh, you're some sort of expert on road surfacing?
    No, but you obviously are.

    Please enlighten me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    According to the Coco website, engineering reasons is why work cannot be done at night, does not elaborate any more than that.

    Will be good to see the final result, now to see if the promised work will ever start on OConnell start, and the delays that will bring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭redarmyblues


    Mint Sauce wrote: »
    According to the Coco website, engineering reasons is why work cannot be done at night, does not elaborate any more than that.

    Will be good to see the final result, now to see if the promised work will ever start on OConnell start, and the delays that will bring.

    The reason is, the engineers don't want to work at night. The practical only difference is its dark at night and generally night work is not allowed in residential areas when the work is noisy, most motorway maintenance though is done at night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,907 ✭✭✭bennyc


    I think they are opening the two lanes again as a result of the disaster in town today.


  • Registered Users Posts: 631 ✭✭✭sligono1


    Not that many years ago resurfacing was done at the roses point junction at night.there is no issue and especially in these long evenings would help rather than hinder.
    I'm sure the fact that the council hasn't a spare cent and the staff cannot be paid for overtime is the real reason.
    But it's poor planning on both the contractor and council that the 12th of July week and one of the busiest holiday periods of the year a major resurfacing job more or less closes down Sligo town.

    Local business have to be feeling the knock on too,would you stop in Sligo with all this gridlock.dont think do I'd keep as far as possible


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    bennyc wrote: »
    I think they are opening the two lanes again as a result of the disaster in town today.

    This evening it was a lane in each direction on the north bound side if thats any relation.


  • Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭north_star_33


    Unreal traffic jams over the last few days....
    when is this due to be finished?
    Goes to show you that sligo is badly missing a second big bridge to bring traffic across it.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭red sean


    This job is going on since October and the amount of delays so far has been minimal. A bit of patience would help. A very well managed project. Contractor has the job price tendered so nothing to do with Sligo coco not willing to pay overtime.
    Try living somewhere like Dublin where big delays are qiute normal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 431 ✭✭6781


    A lot of the work in recent days could have been done during the night when traffic is lighter.


  • Registered Users Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Gipo3


    How do you expect asphalt to be laid at night time? They would be some fools to try and get a perfect finish which is required, when they cant see what they are doing. And lights wont help either. Some people have no idea, just whinging about everything. A bit of patience and it will be done ffs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 431 ✭✭6781


    Gipo3 wrote: »
    How do you expect asphalt to be laid at night time? They would be some fools to try and get a perfect finish which is required, when they cant see what they are doing. And lights wont help either. Some people have no idea, just whinging about everything. A bit of patience and it will be done ffs.
    It has been done many times before with no problems, just more expensive. The reason it's not been done here is down to contracts and planning.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭T-Bird


    Most motorway repairs are done at night to avoid traffic delays and stuff.


  • Registered Users Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Gipo3


    T-Bird wrote: »
    Most motorway repairs are done at night to avoid traffic delays and stuff.

    This isn't a repair.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭T-Bird


    That wasnt the point, perhaps should have elaborated more, as in build and repair?

    Either way is the principle not the same, as in they remove the surface and then relay?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Tbh, I have found it grand before 8am, and after 8pm.

    :D

    Seen them working at 8.30 yesterday evening. Final rush must be on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 631 ✭✭✭sligono1


    Gipo3 wrote: »
    How do you expect asphalt to be laid at night time? They would be some fools to try and get a perfect finish which is required, when they cant see what they are doing. And lights wont help either. Some people have no idea, just whinging about everything. A bit of patience and it will be done ffs.

    As I mentioned in post #60 on the same stretch of road a few years ago at the rosses point junction asphalt was laid at night.I don't think McCaffertys from ballintra who done the job are fools only a very experienced firm at laying blacktop.there was nothing wrong with the job they done there night or day if you have the expertise job will be done.
    It's such a small stretch to Asphalt it should be wiped out and no major tie ins either.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Carson10


    Am I the only one who does not see any difference to the Hughes Bridge with the works they have done. I know they they widened the bridge, but it just seems to be a foot path double the width now either side and the lane size remains the same.

    I thought there would be a feeder lane coming up form the quay turning left for Bundoran, but that now doesn't look likely as the footpath juts out on the corner?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Carson10 wrote: »
    Am I the only one who does not see any difference to the Hughes Bridge with the works they have done. I know they they widened the bridge, but it just seems to be a foot path double the width now either side and the lane size remains the same.

    I thought there would be a feeder lane coming up form the quay turning left for Bundoran, but that now doesn't look likely as the footpath juts out on the corner?

    I thought similar, despite following this tread and some of the information from the CoCo website, untill went over it a few times. There does seem to be room for 3 lanes south bound. Unfortunately the 3 north bound lanes do converge into just 2 at the junction for Markavche Rd. Unfortunately even more, as already commented on, there seems to be no plans for the new north bound lane, as its segregated by a double yellow. The talk is this lane will be opened when road improvements are done (if ever) as far as the Rosses Point junction


  • Registered Users Posts: 402 ✭✭drdidlittle


    Carson10 wrote: »
    Am I the only one who does not see any difference to the Hughes Bridge with the works they have done. I know they they widened the bridge, but it just seems to be a foot path double the width now either side and the lane size remains the same.

    I thought there would be a feeder lane coming up form the quay turning left for Bundoran, but that now doesn't look likely as the footpath juts out on the corner?

    seen that on Saturday. Thought l was mistaken. Irish solution to irish problem.


  • Registered Users Posts: 127 ✭✭malibu4u


    Gipo3 wrote: »
    How do you expect asphalt to be laid at night time?

    Maybe they could have worked in the evening at 7 or 8 pm, after peak traffic? I was on holidays in Sligo a few weeks ago during the day and there was a traffic jam lasting about 50 minutes. In some other countries they seem to do road works after peak hours whenever they can.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    I haven't been driving in Sligo much lately, but last Friday was a complete joke. I've never seen traffic like it, the whole town was jammed. I was stuck on Ballast Quay for nearly half an hour and it was only when I got to the junction with Pirn Mill road, did I realise the road ahead was blocked off and I couldn't turn left over the bridge towards Derry. The only sign I saw had a big HGV turn right arrow on it, which suggested normal cars could proceed straight ahead. If the gobshytes had of up a simple sign saying all traffic turn right. Then I could have done a U-turn on Ballast Quay and saved myself 30 minutes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Well the line markings are done. Its definitely 3 lanes south, lane 1 left and straight, lane 2 straight, and lane 3 right. 2 lanes as before north, with the new 3rd lane (lane 1 if it ever opens) currently closed until further development.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Does anyone know the expected completion date?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭red sean


    Tomorrow I believe.


  • Registered Users Posts: 43 Skiup


    9 months work to get one extra lane for 50 metres.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 654 ✭✭✭thebuzz


    red sean wrote: »
    Tomorrow I believe.
    Now scheduled to finish Tuesday 28th.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 621 ✭✭✭Bebo stunnah


    Skiup wrote: »
    9 months work to get one extra lane for 50 metres.

    Well it's one extra lane on either side, but the extra northbound land ends when the bridge ends. Cant figure out the purpose of that. From what I heard the bridge was due maintenace, so at least they did everything all at the same time, nothing in town is ever done like that. As bad as it is could you imagine what the traffic would have been like if the schools were still oen when they closed the bridge?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭Chinasea


    Any provisions for a bicycle lane?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Well it's one extra lane on either side, but the extra northbound land ends when the bridge ends. Cant figure out the purpose of that. From what I heard the bridge was due maintenace, so at least they did everything all at the same time, nothing in town is ever done like that. As bad as it is could you imagine what the traffic would have been like if the schools were still oen when they closed the bridge?

    Am guessing this is to future proof the bridge. I believe plans are to upgrade the road as far as the Rosses Point junction in the future, when/if this is done, the additional NB lane will be opened.

    Chinasea wrote: »
    Any provisions for a bicycle lane?

    Yes, but its shared with pedestrians, weather this is segregated by a white line or free for all I dont know. Either way, I will continue to use the regular driving lanes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭mano79


    Very disappointing to see them cutting into the lovely new road on Saturday morning. Was filled in again later that evening. Cant understand how these things get that far on and then they cut it open again to lay a pipe. Beggars belief :mad::mad::mad:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭loki7777


    Any new date for finishing - opening both lanes in Donegal direction?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭T-Bird


    From email sent to me last Friday.


    Sligo Road and Traffic Report (w/c Monday, 27th July, 2015)

    "N4 Hughes Bridge Widening Contract

    A contra-flow system will remain in place along Hughes Bridge until Wednesday evening, 29th July.

    With effect from Thursday morning, 30th July, it is expected that both northbound and southbound carriageways along Hughes Bridge will be fully operational.

    It is also expected that right-turning movements at junction S9 (Hughes Bridge / Ballast Quay / Custom House Quay) will be reinstated by Friday 31st July."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    mano79 wrote: »
    Very disappointing to see them cutting into the lovely new road on Saturday morning. Was filled in again later that evening. Cant understand how these things get that far on and then they cut it open again to lay a pipe. Beggars belief :mad::mad::mad:

    Unfortunately it seems to be a common occurrence in this country. A lovely new road surface is laid and then dug up again, due to a lack of forward planning by somebody.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Unfortunately it seems to be a common occurrence in this country. A lovely new road surface is laid and then dug up again, due to a lack of forward planning by somebody.

    So does the road look like its been cut up again. Ie Patch Work effect.

    Wasn't this the reason why OConnell Street was not done when they said, as could not agree with Irish Water on works. Hopefully will get that sorted next after the Fleadh Cheoil.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭rizzodun


    Unfortunately it seems to be a common occurrence in this country. A lovely new road surface is laid and then dug up again, due to a lack of forward planning by somebody.

    You spelled county wrong..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    rizzodun wrote: »
    You spelled county wrong..

    You probably need new reading glasses. Btw, there are some good offers in Specsavers atm.:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭T-Bird


    rizzodun wrote: »
    You spelled county wrong..

    Jeez, could you imagine if scc did run the country? Greece would get a huge let off.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭rizzodun


    You probably need new reading glasses. Btw, there are some good offers in Specsavers atm.:pac:

    It's all the 'rubbing my eyes in disbelief' at some of the things the CoCo does that has my eyes the way they are. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭redarmyblues


    The cabinet meeting in Lissadel can be seen as a reprimand to the CoCo, photo-ops with the owners, nary a CoCo executive or Council member in sight, and with an election in the offing no commitment to or mention of a major infrastructure scheme, ie the N4 upgrade.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭T-Bird


    The cabinet meeting in Lissadel can be seen as a reprimand to the CoCo, photo-ops with the owners, nary a CoCo executive or Council member in sight, and with an election in the offing no commitment to or mention of a major infrastructure scheme, ie the N4 upgrade.

    I was hoping they would have a big job announcement to coincide with Lissadel, there was one alright, but it was for Limerick.... So it's 2 fingers up to Sligo all round..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 621 ✭✭✭Bebo stunnah


    I for one would love to see the owners of Lisadell taking over all the works that the CoCo are in charge of. I was at the house when the fair day (or whatever it was called) was on. Much better road quality than anything the council could have one themselves.

    Back to the bridge... Did anyone notice the rough tiles they put down on the road side of the barrier next to the footpath on the southbound section of road? What are they thinking with that? The amount of s#it that's going to accumulate anytime it rains, not to mention how dated it's going to look in a couple of years. I'd assume it's to deter pedestians/cyclist from using it but come on...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    I for one would love to see the owners of Lisadell taking over all the works that the CoCo are in charge of. I was at the house when the fair day (or whatever it was called) was on. Much better road quality than anything the council could have one themselves.

    Back to the bridge... Did anyone notice the rough tiles they put down on the road side of the barrier next to the footpath on the southbound section of road? What are they thinking with that? The amount of s#it that's going to accumulate anytime it rains, not to mention how dated it's going to look in a couple of years. I'd assume it's to deter pedestians/cyclist from using it but come on...

    I'd say thats preciselythe reason, but surely most would use the pavement or road as both available


  • Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭mano79


    Mint Sauce wrote: »
    I'd say thats preciselythe reason, but surely most would use the pavement or road as both available

    Youd be surprised - I was driving southbound the other evening and seen 2 idiots walking/balancing on the curb on the wrong side of the railings. One slip or stumble and they were onto the road. Some people's level of ignorance still shocks me :mad:


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