Formula 1 2016: General Discussion Thread

Larbre34 · 04-12-2015 2:49pm

Its all smoke and daggers as Bertie would say.

You could write 'Powered by Mr Fusion' on the side of the car, but its still a below par Renault unit. And now their resources will be split between RB and a works team. It will not go well.

Harika · 04-12-2015 2:59pm

I don't see the problem with the resources, cause they have anyway just 25 tokens and five engines per year. Only a decade ago, they would use 2-3 engines per car per weekend. So where is the resource problem suddenly coming from? In the worst case a team has to wait five more races until they get the newest parts on the car. In a title challenge this might become a problem, when the works team is fighting against the B Team, but to be realistic, it doesn't look like this would happen next year anyway. In fact same situation as this year with Red Bull and Torro Rosso, just next year RB and Lotus.
I think Ron Dennis vetoed Honda also, because it would take pressure from Honda away if Red Bull constantly beats McLaren.

flazio · 04-12-2015 11:55pm

Back in the late nineties Renault supplied both Williams and their own Bennetton team with equal works engines, no reason to think it won't happen now with Lotus and Red Bull.

donspeekinglesh · 05-12-2015 12:28am

flazio wrote: »

Back in the late nineties Renault supplied both Williams and their own Bennetton team with equal works engines, no reason to think it won't happen now with Lotus and Red Bull.

Renault didn't own the Benetton team in the 90s. They pulled out of the sport entirely after 1997, and only bought the team when they returned.

El_Duderino 09 · 05-12-2015 12:55pm

Sky Sports are stuck for a story and Mercedes are willing to invent one for them.

The idea of dropping one of two employees with mulit-million, multi year contracts, is ridiculous.

I'm bring it up not because its worth discussing, but because it does no credit to the sport when they invent stories like this like just to have something to talk about. Better to stay silent.

T-Bird · 05-12-2015 3:20pm

Saw this on BBC F1 gossip

"Renault CEO Carlos Ghosn hints that the team may not retain Lotus drivers Pastor Maldonado and Jolyon Palmer following the French manufacturer's takeover this week. (Le Figaro - in French) "

Might be interesting.

Another Alonso partnership?

Zcott · 05-12-2015 3:26pm

T-Bird wrote: »

Saw this on BBC F1 gossip

"Renault CEO Carlos Ghosn hints that the team may not retain Lotus drivers Pastor Maldonado and Jolyon Palmer following the French manufacturer's takeover this week. (Le Figaro - in French) "

Might be interesting.

The offending sentence:

But when asked by Le Figaro if there will be a Frenchman at the wheel of a works Renault in 2016, Ghosn answered: "We will wait a few weeks.

"I refer to a meeting in January 2016, when we will explain the organisation, goals, strategy and we will also talk about drivers and partners," he added.

They probably could drop them as Palmer and Maldonado probably have contracts with Lotus, and not Renault. Still, wouldn't be good PR...

El_Duderino 09 · 05-12-2015 3:31pm

Zcott wrote:

They probably could drop them as Palmer and Maldonado probably have contracts with Lotus, and not Renault. Still, wouldn't be good PR...

If they can make do without Maldonado's money they could drop him and get a half decent driver instead. Seemslike a sound lad but a loose canon on a race track. It's not even hard racing, it's constantly going for gaps that don't exist and lack of awareness of other cars.

He brings a crazy amount of PDVSA money though. There might be a $40 million swing between losing his sponsorship money, and paying Alonso instead.

Myrddin · 05-12-2015 4:12pm

I'd love to see Alonso jump ship. But then again, the way his luck is, if he does that Button will be world champion next year...

Harika · 05-12-2015 5:58pm

Maldonado and Palmer bring substantial sponsorship money with them and the next two years they will anyway just build up and modernise their factory so it makes no sense to replace those drivers except they have own sponsorship money lined up. But I can see them signing up Vergne as driver for 2017.

05-12-2015 7:31pm

Myrddin wrote: »

I'd love to see Alonso jump ship. But then again, the way his luck is, if he does that Button will be world champion next year...

Are you expecting some grave misfortune to befall every non-McLaren driver on the grid that prevents them from racing?

Jordan 199 · 05-12-2015 10:32pm

It would be sweet if Renault could run a livery like this next year:

Renault-1979-GP-Spanien-Jarama-F1-fotoshowImage-25571d44-899797.jpg

Zcott · 06-12-2015 1:55am

Jordan 191 wrote: »

It would be sweet if Renault could run a livery like this next year:

Not sure about the yellow livery these days. And who can forget this?

Thidp · 06-12-2015 1:16pm

I hope they get back with 2010 colors

Robert_Kubica_2010_Australia_(cropped).jpg

Frank Bullitt · 06-12-2015 10:48pm

Alonso going for 2 wheels instead.

AMKC · 08-12-2015 12:49am

Zcott wrote: »

Not sure about the yellow livery these days. And who can forget this?

I think Renault should go for the colours they had in 2005 and 2006. Beautiful cars they were.

Charlie-Bravo · 08-12-2015 1:01am

I think they go yellow and black, similar to the Twizy : expect this to be the basis of the their new F1 car!!

AMKC · 08-12-2015 7:28pm

https://www.flickr.com/photos/raceshots/5524612420

I think Renault should go for these colours. Beautiful car.

Ghost Train · 10-12-2015 10:49pm

I do find it a bit funny that teams have to decide what tyres they want for Australia before Dec 17th
Teams could really get stuck for a few races if they have to pick tyres three months in advance
http://planetf1.com/news/hembery-explains-tyre-deadline/

El_Duderino 09 · 11-12-2015 12:43pm

I saw an article on crashnet.com which said Shell are claiming 0.5 seconds of speed over Petronas from the fuel technology. I had no idea fuel could be so important. Wolfe appeared to accept that Shell is ahead of Petronas, but not by the full half second. I presume honda and mobile 1 are a year behind the rest.

Does anyone know where Total are in the pecking order?

Ghost Train · 11-12-2015 3:03pm

When Mercedes did their engine upgrade in Monza a lot was made of how the upgrade was aimed at getting the best from a new fuel. So it seems to tightly linked

http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/32420/9983506/fuelling-f1s-battle-for-engine-supremacy-in-2015

El_Duderino 09 · 11-12-2015 4:28pm

Ghost Train wrote:

When Mercedes did their engine upgrade in Monza a lot was made of how the upgrade was aimed at getting the best from a new fuel. So it seems to tightly linked

Maybe there are real world benefits to that type of development outside of F1. Sounds like a waste of money and an additional cost to designing engines though.

Would it make more sense to use fuel similar to normal road petrol, and developed the technology around that which would have more transferable use in road cars?

El_Duderino 09 · 13-12-2015 11:56am

Does anyone read crash.net? I've found some interesting articles recently and they don't centre their coverage around the sensational, Hamilton-Rosberg stories.

Where else is a reliable source of news?

Harika · 13-12-2015 7:54pm

autosport.com
jamesallenonf1.com
motorsport.com
https://joesaward.wordpress.com/

also there are good facebook pages that link usually to good articles and have good own content: Badgergp, rachf1, i am a die hard f1 fan

Charlie-Bravo · 13-12-2015 10:50pm

^^those and planetf1.net. That and Motorsport.com are my most visited.

Ghost Train · 13-12-2015 11:04pm

Planetf1.com would be my default
But end up on the other sites too
BBC F1 news or Sky sometimes too

AMKC · 14-12-2015 1:29am

http://formulaspy.com/

I find this site very good and always up to date on whats happening in F1

Brendan Flowers · 14-12-2015 4:48pm

I had signed up to be notified when tickets for the 2016 Monaco GP go on sale. Got the email this afternoon saying they were now available. I went straight into the official F1 ticket site and I see certain areas are already sold out. I had wanted 3 tickets in the Grandstand Z1. Tickets are only 120eur for race day which is great value compared to all other grandstands there. But they are all gone!

Anyone know how they are already sold out? Is there a way to pre order that I may have missed out on?

Frank Bullitt · 14-12-2015 6:20pm

If any of you want to subject yourself to some horror, here is Hamiltons music for you to enjoy.

http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/hear-lewis-hamiltons-first-songs/

Stick with driving pal, its safer for all of us.

Jordan 199 · 15-12-2015 3:08pm

Alfa Romeo could make return to F1.

I would love to see Alfa Romeo back in F1.

Formula 1 2016: General Discussion Thread

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