DSPCA Society

Scrappychimow · 13-06-2012 10:19pm #1

Does TCD have a DSPCA society?

PurpleFistMixer · 13-06-2012 11:34pm

Nope, unless it was just founded, or is one of those societies that "exists" but is never observed to exist. There were some people trying to set up an animal rights society but I'm not sure if that actually went ahead or not.

Lawliet · 14-06-2012 12:25am

Shame there isn't one, I'd definitely be interested in joining. Ah if only some of those involved people would set one up for me...

Scrappychimow · 14-06-2012 1:06pm

Lawliet wrote: »

Shame there isn't one, I'd definitely be interested in joining. Ah if only some of those involved people would set one up for me...

Maybe we could start a campaign to get a DSPCA society???

14-06-2012 1:26pm

Could you outline exactly what this society would do? I contribute to the DSPCA up in Rathfarnham (and have adopted animals from there) but in terms of activities I've no idea what a local DSPCA society would actually do.

Scrappychimow · 14-06-2012 3:59pm

Dónal wrote: »

Could you outline exactly what this society would do? I contribute to the DSPCA up in Rathfarnham (and have adopted animals from there) but in terms of activities I've no idea what a local DSPCA society would actually do.

Fundraising , and general stuff like all the other societies do?

Darkglasses · 14-06-2012 5:56pm

Dónal wrote: »

Could you outline exactly what this society would do? I contribute to the DSPCA up in Rathfarnham (and have adopted animals from there) but in terms of activities I've no idea what a local DSPCA society would actually do.

Looking after Trinity Cat?

FloatingVoter · 14-06-2012 6:00pm

I'm going into 4th year and would actually contribute monetarily to that one.
I can see any such society taking off - with any of the Trinity cats as a mascot - (Professor Darwin-Wallace has just fired his agent again btw).
Seriously, the vet dept. must have links with the DSPCA.

spottykatt · 15-06-2012 11:32am

FloatingVoter wrote: »

Seriously, the vet dept. must have links with the DSPCA.

What vet dept?? Is there a secret one?

Great idea on soc, id be a joiner too.

FloatingVoter · 15-06-2012 1:32pm

spottykatt wrote: »

What vet dept?? Is there a secret one?

Great idea on soc, id be a joiner too.

Sorry about that. Appears the veterinary department moved to UCD in 1977. Silly me.

spottykatt · 15-06-2012 1:47pm

FloatingVoter wrote: »

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Sorry about that. Appears the veterinary department moved to UCD in 1977. Silly me.

Boo

They should take it back!

Lisandro · 16-06-2012 4:11am

Although the lack of a DSPCA society in Trinity may be down to a lack of any real demand for one, I suppose it would be good for one to exist to show that not all animal rights activists are nutters who carry "meat is murder" signs and shout at you as you commute through front gate.

Hollzy · 25-06-2012 1:00am

There's a zoology society! We had a day out at DSPCA but unfortunately I had to go home that weekend

tabouli · 25-06-2012 2:32pm

Lisandro wrote: »

Although the lack of a DSPCA society in Trinity may be down to a lack of any real demand for one, I suppose it would be good for one to exist to show that not all animal rights activists are nutters who carry "meat is murder" signs and shout at you as you commute through front gate.

Yeah, there is an animal rights society but they seem to lean more towards these kinds of activities. I would be more interested in one that's affiliated with something like DSPCA and fundraises or offers volunteering opportunities etc.

Scrappychimow · 25-06-2012 3:55pm

Spread the word people..........

Tragedy · 25-06-2012 7:39pm

Why don't you actually approach the DSPCA and offer them your services in relation to volunteering and fundraising? I'm sure they'd be happy to hear from you and if you want to help the DSPCA, you'd be offering far more help doing that than by setting up a society.

[edit]Hopefully this doesn't sound bitchy as I don't intend it to be. I volunteered in the DSPCA for a while in 1st year and found it a rewarding experience.

Scrappychimow · 25-06-2012 8:03pm

Tragedy wrote: »

Why don't you actually approach the DSPCA and offer them your services in relation to volunteering and fundraising? I'm sure they'd be happy to hear from you and if you want to help the DSPCA, you'd be offering far more help doing that than by setting up a society.

[edit]Hopefully this doesn't sound bitchy as I don't intend it to be. I volunteered in the DSPCA for a while in 1st year and found it a rewarding experience.

Because i think the college could do with a DSPCA society.

FloatingVoter · 25-06-2012 8:18pm

Tragedy wrote: »

Why don't you actually approach the DSPCA and offer them your services in relation to volunteering and fundraising? I'm sure they'd be happy to hear from you and if you want to help the DSPCA, you'd be offering far more help doing that than by setting up a society.

[edit]Hopefully this doesn't sound bitchy as I don't intend it to be. I volunteered in the DSPCA for a while in 1st year and found it a rewarding experience.

There's a point there. A lot of college (not just TCD) societies are set up with the best of intentions and wind up as little more than drinking clubs.

Tragedy · 25-06-2012 8:51pm

Scrappychimow wrote: »

Because i think the college could do with a DSPCA society.

And I asked why?

So far all you had posted was "Fundraising , and general stuff like all the other societies do?"

As I said, if you want to fundraise you'll most likely be far more effective approaching the DSPCA directly and as for "general stuff like all the other societies do"...well there you are. All the other societies already do it and it has zero relation to the DSPCA.

Scrappychimow · 25-06-2012 9:55pm

Tragedy wrote: »

And I asked why?

So far all you had posted was "Fundraising , and general stuff like all the other societies do?"

As I said, if you want to fundraise you'll most likely be far more effective approaching the DSPCA directly and as for "general stuff like all the other societies do"...well there you are. All the other societies already do it and it has zero relation to the DSPCA.

Fundraising, socializing ,general college stuff! that's exactly what i mean . It's college we are in after all you cranky granny.

Lawliet · 26-06-2012 12:00am

Tragedy wrote: »

As I said, if you want to fundraise you'll most likely be far more effective approaching the DSPCA directly

Not necessarily, I know people involves with VDP who wouldn't have gotten involved if it wasn't for the society. It can be pretty daunting volunteering for things when you don't know anyone involved. Also most of the fundraising opportunities for individuals on the DSPCA website are basically getting people to sponsor you in marathons and the like, which isn't suitable for everyone. A society could organised their own fundraising events and allow more people to get involved. Also since DSPCA isn't reachable by public transport, maybe a society could organize their own transport out there for people who want to volunteer. There's definitely things a society could do that individuals might not be able to.

Tragedy · 26-06-2012 1:03am

Scrappychimow wrote: »

Fundraising, socializing ,general college stuff! that's exactly what i mean . It's college we are in after all you cranky granny.

So your reason for creating the DSPCA now is that it gives you a reason to insult people?
Unlike you(it seems), I made the effort to volunteer in the DSPCA, including getting up the Dublin Mountains in Winter 2010 when I was frequently working in temperatures approaching freezing and roads weren't being gritted - but questioning what your reasons are for setting up a society instead of actually getting involved makes me a cranky granny?

@Lawliet, there's quite a difference between VDP and DSPCA. A lot of Trinity VDP's activities are the same activities that the wider SVDP does, what can DSPCA members do? They can't rescue animals, they can't setup a rescue shelter, they can't assist or emulate (to the best of my knowledge) anything the DSPCA does without actually getting involved in the DSPCA - all quite unlike TVDP. For a DSPCA society to work (and for it to be legal), it'd need to be organised from the ground up with the actual DSPCA.

It just strikes me as being a bit pointless tbh, and Scrappychimow's inability to give it even the most flimsy justification kinda proves that.
A general animals society = cool, and I'd join though!

Scrappychimow · 26-06-2012 12:16pm

Tragedy wrote: »

So your reason for creating the DSPCA now is that it gives you a reason to insult people?
Unlike you(it seems), I made the effort to volunteer in the DSPCA, including getting up the Dublin Mountains in Winter 2010 when I was frequently working in temperatures approaching freezing and roads weren't being gritted - but questioning what your reasons are for setting up a society instead of actually getting involved makes me a cranky granny?

@Lawliet, there's quite a difference between VDP and DSPCA. A lot of Trinity VDP's activities are the same activities that the wider SVDP does, what can DSPCA members do? They can't rescue animals, they can't setup a rescue shelter, they can't assist or emulate (to the best of my knowledge) anything the DSPCA does without actually getting involved in the DSPCA - all quite unlike TVDP. For a DSPCA society to work (and for it to be legal), it'd need to be organised from the ground up with the actual DSPCA.

It just strikes me as being a bit pointless tbh, and Scrappychimow's inability to give it even the most flimsy justification kinda proves that.
A general animals society = cool, and I'd join though!

Stop nitpicking at peoples ideas . Join the knitting society , you cranky granny.

Lawliet · 26-06-2012 1:11pm

Tragedy wrote: »

@Lawliet, there's quite a difference between VDP and DSPCA. A lot of Trinity VDP's activities are the same activities that the wider SVDP does, what can DSPCA members do? They can't rescue animals, they can't setup a rescue shelter, they can't assist or emulate (to the best of my knowledge) anything the DSPCA does without actually getting involved in the DSPCA - all quite unlike TVDP. For a DSPCA society to work (and for it to be legal), it'd need to be organised from the ground up with the actual DSPCA.

It just strikes me as being a bit pointless tbh, and Scrappychimow's inability to give it even the most flimsy justification kinda proves that.
A general animals society = cool, and I'd join though!

I kind of get the impression from your post that it's not so much that the suggested society itself is pointless, but that naming it DSPCA is misleading?

Scrappychimow · 26-06-2012 1:58pm

Tragedy wrote: »

So your reason for creating the DSPCA now is that it gives you a reason to insult people?
Unlike you(it seems), I made the effort to volunteer in the DSPCA, including getting up the Dublin Mountains in Winter 2010 when I was frequently working in temperatures approaching freezing and roads weren't being gritted - but questioning what your reasons are for setting up a society instead of actually getting involved makes me a cranky granny?

@Lawliet, there's quite a difference between VDP and DSPCA. A lot of Trinity VDP's activities are the same activities that the wider SVDP does, what can DSPCA members do? They can't rescue animals, they can't setup a rescue shelter, they can't assist or emulate (to the best of my knowledge) anything the DSPCA does without actually getting involved in the DSPCA - all quite unlike TVDP. For a DSPCA society to work (and for it to be legal), it'd need to be organised from the ground up with the actual DSPCA.

It just strikes me as being a bit pointless tbh, and Scrappychimow's inability to give it even the most flimsy justification kinda proves that.
A general animals society = cool, and I'd join though!

When did I say i didn't intend on getting the society linked with the DSPCA themselves?

Tragedy · 27-06-2012 12:28am

Lawliet wrote: »

I kind of get the impression from your post that it's not so much that the suggested society itself is pointless, but that naming it DSPCA is misleading?

Animal Welfare is cool, the suggested society isn't for animal welfare (or alternatively, animal rights which tends to get taken over by militants) - it's for a DSPCA society! That doesn't really have all that much to do with either animal welfare or animal rights imho.

Scrappychimchow, I don't recall you saying you were going to link it either and you had plenty of opportunities to mention it.
By all means, call me a cranky granny - but you might want to stop acting like a butthurt child the instant someone raises a couple of questions - you could consider it an important life lesson.

27-06-2012 7:30pm

Scrappychimow wrote: »

Fundraising, socializing ,general college stuff! that's exactly what i mean . It's college we are in after all you cranky granny.

I'd agree with Tragedy. You basically want a general college soc but instead of joining an existing one you want to slap an animal welfare sticker on a new one. This will only serve to drain already limited resources when joining the DSPCA itself would be far more productive.

I also don't think it's fair to call Tragedy a cranky granny when you're the one stuck in your idea and being dismissive of others' (notably an other with experience in the DSPCA) advice.

Lisandro · 28-06-2012 1:49am

Scrappychimow wrote: »

Fundraising, socializing ,general college stuff! that's exactly what i mean . It's college we are in after all you cranky granny.

I'm sure the DSPCA would be delighted to know that their name is being attached to such frivolous pursuits as "socialising" and "general college stuff".

LifesaverNiall · 28-06-2012 2:08am

Lol... cranky granny?
God to know youre still trolling boards Scrappychimow..
You really need to grow up a bit!

Scrappychimow · 28-06-2012 8:44pm

LifesaverNiall wrote: »

Lol... cranky granny?
God to know youre still trolling boards Scrappychimow..
You really need to grow up a bit!

Good to know you're not in TCD, now go back to UCD.

LifesaverNiall · 28-06-2012 11:07pm

Lol, bye now!

gavmcg92 · 01-07-2012 4:50pm

I surprised that a thread suggesting such a nice idea for a society has descended into name calling and nit-picking.

I think this is a great idea for a society. I only adopted a new dog from the DSPCA 2 weeks ago after my previous dog (also from the DSPCA) passed away in March.

Like others here, I have steered clear of the Animal Rights society in the college because I just don't identify with them. I am not vegan, not interested in their idea of activism and just simply feel different.

I have always played with the idea of volunteering in the DSPCA but don't have a licence so would find it difficult to get up to their shelter.

I think the DSPCA would love for us to promote them positively on campus and in town. Like any other charitable organisations, there is nothing better than getting boots on the ground.

As Tragedy suggested, just going down to the shelter and volenteering is all well and good but if we actively promoted them in the college we could reach out and provide an ability to volunteer to those who, for example, have never heard of the DSPCA or how to be actively involved.

andrew · 01-07-2012 8:20pm

There's plenty of stuff a DSPCA type society could do. Bring your pet to college day. A photo exhibition of people's animals. Trips to the zoo and various farms/petting zoos. Trips to dog shows (and other animal shows if they exist). Arrange student deals with pet shops and vets. Christ, and I don't even like animals.

Scrappychimow · 01-07-2012 9:03pm

Good stuff people , positive ideas are what I like to hear :pac:

PurpleFistMixer · 01-07-2012 9:57pm

andrew wrote: »

Bring your pet to college day.

o.O Assuming that's not a real suggestion!

andrew · 01-07-2012 11:08pm

PurpleFistMixer wrote: »

o.O Assuming that's not a real suggestion!

Well bringing them to lectures would be a bit much. But there must be loads of people out there with exotic caged animals which they could put on display. I saw a kind of mobile zoo once, with lots of snakes etc. I was gonna say dogs too, but I've never seen dogs in college, so maybe there's a ban?

PurpleFistMixer · 02-07-2012 12:42am

andrew wrote: »

Well bringing them to lectures would be a bit much. But there must be loads of people out there with exotic caged animals which they could put on display. I saw a kind of mobile zoo once, with lots of snakes etc. I was gonna say dogs too, but I've never seen dogs in college, so maybe there's a ban?

Yeah dogs aren't allowed in college. I entirely forgot that people could have caged pets...

Lawliet · 02-07-2012 1:14am

PurpleFistMixer wrote: »

Yeah dogs aren't allowed in college.

I never knew that, good thing they didn't ban cats or someone would be out of a home...

PurpleFistMixer · 03-07-2012 1:18am

Lawliet wrote: »

I never knew that, good thing they didn't ban cats or someone would be out of a home...

Well, this is just going by the time a security guard told me to remove my dog from campus. The actions of a single security guard may not speak for college policy, though I felt like I'd seen a sign about dogs somewhere, too.

Jammyc · 03-07-2012 11:26am

PurpleFistMixer wrote: »

Well, this is just going by the time a security guard told me to remove my dog from campus. The actions of a single security guard may not speak for college policy, though I felt like I'd seen a sign about dogs somewhere, too.

There are signs at front arch and at the Science Gallery entrances to college that say no dogs. I've also seen a member of the public being escorted off the campus (a little heavy handedly I might add) because he was walking a dog around college park.

Tragedy · 05-07-2012 1:59am

andrew wrote: »

There's plenty of stuff a DSPCA type society could do. Bring your pet to college day. A photo exhibition of people's animals. Trips to the zoo and various farms/petting zoos. Trips to dog shows (and other animal shows if they exist). Arrange student deals with pet shops and vets. Christ, and I don't even like animals.

Not one of those ideas has anything whatsoever to do with an animal welfare charity society.

Scrappychimow · 05-07-2012 10:24am

Tragedy wrote: »

Not one of those ideas has anything whatsoever to do with an animal welfare charity society.

Go off somewhere else and troll/nitpick ,this thread welcomes positive ideas.If you don't like it, throw yourself in the liffey.

gavmcg92 · 05-07-2012 2:41pm

Tragedy wrote: »

Not one of those ideas has anything whatsoever to do with an animal welfare charity society.

I don't think we're trying to create an Animal Welfare society so to speak (correct me if I'm wrong) It's more of a case of taking the ethos of the DSPCA (a love for animals) while creating an awareness for what they do in and through fun, animal loving activities. I think it is a great way to bring people together who have similar interests and perhaps connected through adoptions they have made with the DSPCA. Not to mention the countless number of fund-raising activities that we can take part in.
Tragedy, I think we all know by now that you wouldn't sign up to such a society so why continue to knit pick at other peoples ideas.

PurpleFistMixer · 05-07-2012 5:27pm

To be fair, those activities sound more suited for a pets/animals society rather than DSPCA, which is certainly more about animal welfare. Like, an "Animals Society" could also do stuff with DSPCA and the above mentioned activities.

It makes sense to be critical of suggestions for new societies, because societies cost money and one wants to make sure they're worth it. Also you won't actually get approved if your proposed activities fall under the remit of a pre-existing society. If there does indeed exist an Animal Rights society (I was under the impression that they didn't actually exist), a DSPCA society would be in a bit of trouble on that front. Also, I know the environmental society already do some animal-welfare-ish stuff (seal sanctuary and whatnot), and Zoosoc probably go to the zoo sometimes...

andrew · 05-07-2012 5:55pm

PurpleFistMixer wrote: »

To be fair, those activities sound more suited for a pets/animals society rather than DSPCA, which is certainly more about animal welfare. Like, an "Animals Society" could also do stuff with DSPCA and the above mentioned activities.

It makes sense to be critical of suggestions for new societies, because societies cost money and one wants to make sure they're worth it. Also you won't actually get approved if your proposed activities fall under the remit of a pre-existing society. If there does indeed exist an Animal Rights society (I was under the impression that they didn't actually exist), a DSPCA society would be in a bit of trouble on that front. Also, I know the environmental society already do some animal-welfare-ish stuff (seal sanctuary and whatnot), and Zoosoc probably go to the zoo sometimes...

...there's a zoosoc?

gavmcg92 · 05-07-2012 6:03pm

tbh I don't think any existing societies fall into the same slot as this proposed society does. Granted I think a "DSPCA" society might not be the way to go but I would be very interested in joining an "Animal Lovers" society that works hand in hand with the DSPCA.
I think the individuals here have already expressed their dissatisfaction with the current style of "Animal rights" societies who tend to lean more to the vegan, ultra activist front, whereas this proposed society is based more on a love for domestic animals and a wanting to highlight current mistreatments of these animals in and through working closely with The DSPCA.

PurpleFistMixer · 05-07-2012 8:56pm

andrew wrote: »

...there's a zoosoc?

Yes. I think it's got a lot of Zoology students in it, but they do things for general appeal as well.

andrew · 05-07-2012 9:27pm

PurpleFistMixer wrote: »

andrew wrote: »

...there's a zoosoc?

Yes. I think it's got a lot of Zoology students in it, but they do things for general appeal as well.

ah I forgot about zoology. I thought it was a society for people who like going to the zoo or something, was pretty surprised that such a society would be allowed.

Hollzy · 06-07-2012 2:56am

Well we do have an annual trip to Fota! Other than that we mostly have talks and pub crawls, and the odd documentary showing.

Tragedy · 06-07-2012 9:22pm

Scrappychimow wrote: »

Go off somewhere else and troll/nitpick ,this thread welcomes positive ideas.If you don't like it, throw yourself in the liffey.

You don't get to decide what 'this thread welcomes' dear, but by all means, do continue to put your foot in your mouth.

Scrappychimow · 21-07-2014 9:46pm

Two years later - still no DSPCA society..

DSPCA Society

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