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1.4 Petrol or 1.9 TDI - GOLF

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  • 09-10-2008 12:32pm
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    justindublin
    Registered Users Posts: 345 ✭✭


    Still undecided between the two, almost identical spec aside from the engines, what you guys reckon? I'm 21 so would I miss something as nippy as the petrol?

    Also, The TDI is a 2005 and 15,000, decent price? Has nice low miliage!
    I'm thinkin I could hammer the price down given todays sales for dealers! :cool:


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    Mr.David
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    justindublin wrote: »
    Still undecided between the two, almost identical spec aside from the engines, what you guys reckon? I'm 21 so would I miss something as nippy as the petrol?

    Also, The TDI is a 2005 and 15,000, decent price? Has nice low miliage!
    I'm thinkin I could hammer the price down given todays sales for dealers! :cool:


    The TDI because:

    a) much better fuel economy

    b) much more torque and will pull harder

    c) better resale value

    d) the 1.4 lump is a dog of a thing:p


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    Anan1
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    The petrol will be a little smoother and cheaper to tax, but the diesel will be faster, more economical, and worth more when you sell it.


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    justindublin
    Registered Users Posts: 345 ✭✭justindublin


    Any ideas about the price? Should dealers be dropping their knickers? lol


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    Plug
    Registered Users Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭Plug


    I've experianced more lawnmore tractor power that that 1.4.
    Go for the 1.9tdi. Much better.


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    E92
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    The 1.4 is a very weak engine, only thing worse is that dreadful 1.9 TDI which is incredibly noisy, delivers all its power in one BIG lump, hates being revved, very unrefined etc etc.

    The 1.6 FSI would have plenty of power, better economy than the underpowered 1.4 and would be far quieter and smoother than the 1.9 TDI.


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    Anan1
    Registered Users Posts: 22,818 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    You really have it in for that engine, don't you?;)


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    Biro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,091 ✭✭✭Biro


    justindublin wrote: »
    Still undecided between the two, almost identical spec aside from the engines, what you guys reckon? I'm 21 so would I miss something as nippy as the petrol?

    Also, The TDI is a 2005 and 15,000, decent price? Has nice low miliage!
    I'm thinkin I could hammer the price down given todays sales for dealers! :cool:

    If it's just between those two engines, then the diesel. The 1.4 is shyte.


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    bazz26
    Registered Users Posts: 51,153 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    The diesel is the lesser of two evils imo.

    I'd also haggle on the price, the car will be hitting 4 years old in the next 2 months.


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    Gypo
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    The 1.9 TDI gets my vote, it's certainly not the last word in refinement but, it isn't THAT noisy and the power delivery will more linear in the lower power versions i.e. 90 / 105 bhp. Besides, it'll be a nicer drive than the relatively gutless 1.4 and far more economical to boot.

    One thing to consider though is, the recent VRT / Tax changes have affected the resale values of newer (e.g. 2005 - 2007) diesel cars as they are stuck paying relatively high road tax on the old scheme compared to similar 2008 cars. This would be something to factor into your negotiations.


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    unkel
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    Am I the only one to feel that €15k for a nearly 4 year old basic Golf is way too much?


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    bazz26
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    unkel wrote: »
    Am I the only one to feel that €15k for a nearly 4 year old basic Golf is way too much?

    I agree but generally people seem to be happy enough to pay silly money for Golfs.


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    justindublin
    Registered Users Posts: 345 ✭✭justindublin


    Yea agreed but if the continue to hold their value as well as they have in the past I dont reli ahve that much of an issue! On Carzone most 2005 Golfs are in and around the same price.


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    FX Meister
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    bazz26 wrote: »
    I agree but generally people seem to be happy enough to pay silly money for Golfs.

    You get the silly money back when you sell it so it doesn't really matter


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    E92
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    bazz26 wrote: »
    I agree but generally people seem to be happy enough to pay silly money for Golfs.


    People pay silly money for used Toyotas too yet nobody complains about that.

    FWIW the 1.9 TDI has only 90 bhp as the entry engine, although there is also a 105 version but unsurprisingly it is less common here.


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    justindublin
    Registered Users Posts: 345 ✭✭justindublin


    The one i'm looking at is spec 105bhp, but if ya get the ECU or 'chipped' ya can bump that up to about 130bhp

    Well my brothers just managed it anyway..... crafty lol


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    L-M
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    Currenlty have four 1.4 Golf's in the drive, two mk5 and two mk4. Personally, there's nothing wrong with the 1.4. Unless your really after your power it's a grand engine. Although i'd pick the 1.9 ten times over, for resale, power etc. etc. Get a comfortline, really is a must.


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    Plug
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    Limerick-man wrote: »
    Currenlty have four 1.4 Golf's in the drive, two mk5 and two mk4. Personally, there's nothing wrong with the 1.4. Unless your really after your power it's a grand engine. Although i'd pick the 1.9 ten times over, for resale, power etc. etc. Get a comfortline, really is a must.
    My father has serious mileage on his 1.4 and he said its by a long shot the most reliable engine he's ever had. No problem with the car yet. Only the clutch went way back at 180,000 miles. Its a 01. Its rubbish power though.


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    copacetic
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    unkel wrote: »
    Am I the only one to feel that €15k for a nearly 4 year old basic Golf is way too much?

    in the current market it is a ridiculous price. it would be about 10-11k book at the moment.


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    L-M
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    Plug wrote: »
    My father has serious mileage on his 1.4 and he said its by a long shot the most reliable engine he's ever had. No problem with the car yet. Only the clutch went way back at 180,000 miles. Its a 01. Its rubbish power though.

    Few things go wrong with them, valve oil seals (burning oil) and a few other bits. Nothing that can't be fixed:D


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