LOI rumours etc

I dont mean to break up the Pats vs Shels budget issue as for once the moaning isnt aimed at us for once...although...

It seems both clubs are offering high enough amounts. If both sides are true and the other club is offering more money than the other for players..and you both seem to be getting about a 50/50 split of these players...than you're both way in over your heads. Last season you both budgeted for much larger crowds than expected and if it wasnt for a good cup run Shels would have been way behind... Has this changed or?

Ebbs wrote: »

I dont mean to break up the Pats vs Shels budget issue as for once the moaning isnt aimed at us for once...although...

It seems both clubs are offering high enough amounts. If both sides are true and the other club is offering more money than the other for players..and you both seem to be getting about a 50/50 split of these players...than you're both way in over your heads. Last season you both budgeted for much larger crowds than expected and if it wasnt for a good cup run Shels would have been way behind... Has this changed or?

It seems as though us and Pats are the only teams really competing for Dublin based players at the moment, so unless Matthews and Buckley are undergoing a serious bidding war (which I doubt) there is no reason to suggest either of us are paying over the odds for players.

The way I see it at the moment, Shamrock Rovers will probably keep the bulk of their squad from last season, sign a few players from abroad, and maybe take the few top out of contract players that they want. Shels and Pats won't be competing with them realistically for these players. They'll lose.

There are as yet no indications that Bohs, Dundalk or Drogheda are actively pursuing the best of what is left of the Dublin/Leinster pile. All 3 seem to be in the middle of, or recovering from serious financial obstacles and will probably end up with what is left of what us, Rovers and Pats take (perhaps Dundalk excluded, but I'm yet to hear them linked with any Premier Division players from last year other than those already with them).

So for most players that Shels and Pats go in for they'll realistically just be facing each other as competition. Both sides can only have so many players in their squad and we've already signed 11 without bringing in any massive earners (10 of our signings will be with us last year).

If the rumours are true, we outbid them for Conan Byrne and Philly Hughes, and they've outbid us for Chambers, O'Brien and one of Murphy and Clarke (possibly both but I doubt it). All this indicates to me is that Matthews and Buckley are willing to spend that little bit more on the players they really want, and to step back on those that they don't. It would be much more worrying for either party if one side had managed to win every bidding war as it would certainly indicate that they were spilling the bucks.

Realistically speaking, us and Pats will most likely be looking at similar, prrobably reasonable budgets, similar average attendances for the season (even if they think they're Borussia Dortmund) and both of us will probably be fighting with Cork and maybe Dundalk in the tier behind Rovers, Sligo and Derry.

Neither side has made any real indications that they're spending big so this whole argument really does come down to one poster claiming to be in the know talking tripe.

ScienceNerd wrote: »

Willie McStay in talks with Derry about the Managers job

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2012/0103/mcstayw_derry.html

I saw that this morning. I think he could be a good replacement for Kenny. He did a good job when he was at Sligo.

My god Bray gonna be wrecked. No Dempsey, Murphy I know of, was told Kelly is gone too and few others. Will be a very young team, inexperienced too.

civis_liberalis wrote: »

Yet they inexplicably will survive for another season

Not so sure. Think sportsworld are gone too, and Slevin isnt putting much, if any, money in. Fenlon should bankroll the club for a bit. Gotta wait and see I guess.

Gavin shels wrote: »

Seany Byrne and John Sullivan staying with Shels, Brian Shortall (Pats) signed for Shels.

All 3 finally announced by the club.

Now, now. Don't be jealous.

ScienceNerd wrote: »

Pats confirm Barry Murphy and Brendan Clarke, bit much to have 2 top goalkeepers is it?

http://extratime.ie/newsdesk/articles/7231/player-influx-begins-in-inchicore/

We're the ones overpaying though.

CSF wrote: »

We're the ones overpaying though.

Overpaying or overspending?

You offered more to players than we did and we got the above 14 within budget and 7 more to be confirmed. Dont think you offered any of them deals? Murphy maybe?

Decent set of players there but still lacking a striker and centre back. Kavanagh and E Mac Millan and Bradley in still in talks.

dreamers75 wrote: »

Overpaying or overspending?

You offered more to players than we did and we got the above 14 within budget and 7 more to be confirmed. Dont think you offered any of them deals? Murphy maybe?

We talked to Fagan, Ger O'Brien, Pat Flynn, Chambers, Barry Murphy and possibly Clarke (not 100% on him). I'm nearly sure all where offered contracts by Alan Matthews.

Is Kenny Browne on a 12 month contract with yous like he was at Waterford?

BOHtox wrote: »

Bohs have allegedly signed Dinny Corcoran. Anyone know anything about him?

I liked him tbh, he'd be ideal of a team like yourselves who are trying to start from scratch.

ScienceNerd wrote: »

Pats confirm Barry Murphy and Brendan Clarke, bit much to have 2 top goalkeepers is it?

http://extratime.ie/newsdesk/articles/7231/player-influx-begins-in-inchicore/

Barry Murphy is not a top goalkeeper.