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[MERGED] Retailer Discussion Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭Wing126


    Just after placing an order with Hardwareversand.

    Also, I find it ridiculous that they add on 3% for paypal. I know it's to cover the charges, but it ends up at another 20-30 euro for my build. Annoying that I need to pay extra for the convenience of paypal.

    So, How exactly do I go about paying them? I have the bank details they gave me, I set up a bank transfer and that's it yeah?

    Also, If anyone has any suggestions of places that might be cheaper, please give them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,180 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    That's it. The "intended purpose" is tied to your order.

    Note for you and anyone else though: The "intended purpose" is tied to that specific order, and not your account. I found this out the hard way when I re-used the stored details for a second purchase with them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭Wing126


    Serephucus wrote: »
    That's it. The "intended purpose" is tied to your order.

    Note for you and anyone else though: The "intended purpose" is tied to that specific order, and not your account. I found this out the hard way when I re-used the stored details for a second purchase with them.

    I figured that's what it meant, but thanks for clarifying!

    If I get the transfer in tomorrow, when should I expect it to be complete? The following friday?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,180 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    If you send the money tomorrow, it'll probably hit them by Tuesday, dispatched by Wednesday, with you by the following Monday. Rough estimate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭Wing126


    Serephucus wrote: »
    If you send the money tomorrow, it'll probably hit them by Tuesday, dispatched by Wednesday, with you by the following Monday. Rough estimate.

    That's a perfect time frame for me.

    Hopefully they'll get the out of stock items in by then!

    Thanks!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭Wing126


    I can get my build for around the same price on dabs.ie as I can on Hardwareversand.

    Am I better off buying from dabs or hardwareversand?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    Wing126 wrote: »
    I can get my build for around the same price on dabs.ie as I can on Hardwareversand.

    Am I better off buying from dabs or hardwareversand?

    How much are you spending? Usually the price difference is significant to be honest, and even moreso when you buy from HWVS via geizhals.de.

    HWVS can be awkward to deal with if you need to sort out a return, but I've had nothing but good dealings with them over the past few years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭Wing126


    Gumbi wrote: »
    How much are you spending? Usually the price difference is significant to be honest, and even moreso when you buy from HWVS via geizhals.de.

    HWVS can be awkward to deal with if you need to sort out a return, but I've had nothing but good dealings with them over the past few years.

    826 on Dabs vs 830 on hardwareversand. Both include shipping.

    I went with Dabs in the end. Saves me having to set up a bank transfer and they have all the parts in stock.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    If they have all the stock, then dabs seems the better choice. I've had stuff from them ship very quickly. Even at their fastest, HWV take longer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭Wing126


    Monotype wrote: »
    If they have all the stock, then dabs seems the better choice. I've had stuff from them ship very quickly. Even at their fastest, HWV take longer.

    Aye, they did have all the stock in, so I went with them. HWV were missing some parts. The case, the network card and the RAM.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Does anybody know of any bricks and mortar shops in Dublin (preferably south) that sell computer components? Specifically SSDs.

    I normally buy everything online, but I'm in a bit of a hurry as my laptop HDD is showing all the signs of being ready to fail any time now. I've a data backup, but I'd like to clone it to a new disk before it fails.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    Does anybody know of any bricks and mortar shops in Dublin (preferably south) that sell computer components? Specifically SSDs.

    I normally buy everything online, but I'm in a bit of a hurry as my laptop HDD is showing all the signs of being ready to fail any time now. I've a data backup, but I'd like to clone it to a new disk before it fails.

    Your best bet would be to go on adverts and see if anyonse selling one locally in Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Your best bet would be to go on adverts and see if anyonse selling one locally in Dublin.

    Cheers. I'd prefer something new so I just went with Komplett as usual. :) Hopefully it holds out until Thursday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,265 ✭✭✭..Brian..


    Huh, specialtech has closed?! And they spent ages working on their new site with only launched a month or two ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,180 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    I know, it's mad. I always figured they'd do really well. They had by far the best selection of stuff, and pretty decent prices too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,684 ✭✭✭Darwin


    With hardwareversand.de in trouble, I was looking at caseking.de as an alternative for a new GPU. Cheapest shipping to Ireland is via UPS at €18 or so and paypal surcharge is only €2. mindfactory.de charge €30 for delivery but prices are generally more competitive - not too surprising I suppose given that caseking own overclockers UK. Anybody got a preference for either retailer or is it just a case of go with the cheapest option? (I'm normally buy from one of the European amazon's, but they have no stock of the GPU I'm after).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    Cheapest option, both sound to buy from, dunno about returns for either


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,684 ✭✭✭Darwin


    Cheapest option, both sound to buy from, dunno about returns for either

    Cool thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,301 ✭✭✭Supergurrier


    Been pricing on afew sites the last couple days.

    Uk sites seem expensive with the conversion, where else is good besides amazon.de ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    Mind factory.de and caseking


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    computeruniverse.net looks pretty good and direct shipping is cheap too. Plus they take credit cards, or pay with Amazon/Paypal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,180 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    Also Dabs is actually pretty decent. Was looking at a new headset (Steelseries H Wireless). On Amazon it comes out at €320, Dabs have it for €278.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,824 ✭✭✭levitronix


    thinking of getting a few i7 6700k , a few boardsies got some stuff off me in January, just wondering if theres interest again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,180 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    Specs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,824 ✭✭✭levitronix


    •Core i7-6700K: 4GHz to 4.2GHz; 8MB cache; 4 cores/8 threads
    Skylake-S


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,180 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    Ok, I'm confused. I was under the impression you were going to sell off some stuff for the new chip. That's what I was asking about.

    I'm not pushed about Broadwell to be honest. Graphics performance is way up, but otherwise it's pretty damn similar to Haswell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    Serephucus wrote: »
    Ok, I'm confused. I was under the impression you were going to sell off some stuff for the new chip. That's what I was asking about.

    I'm not pushed about Broadwell to be honest. Graphics performance is way up, but otherwise it's pretty damn similar to Haswell.

    Pretty redundant upgrade in that case, Intel won't be flogging real upgrades until AMD catch up, at which time they'll leave them in the dust again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,417 ✭✭✭.G.


    levitronix wrote:
    thinking of getting a few i7 6700k , a few boardsies got some stuff off me in January, just wondering if theres interest again


    What sort of money we talking? My current i7 is 5 year old now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,180 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    levitronix wrote: »
    thinking of getting a few i7 6700k , a few boardsies got some stuff off me in January, just wondering if theres interest again

    I missed "few". I thought you were thinking of picking one up for yourself. My bad.

    I'll be skipping Broadwell (and probably Skylake too, if the rumours are true), but I might very well pick up a Skylake-equipped ultrabook. Should be the perfect processor for stuff like that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,824 ✭✭✭levitronix


    superg wrote: »
    What sort of money we talking? My current i7 is 5 year old now.

    about 75 euro below retail, maybe more haven't got pricing yet, dollar is really strong, will need 3 buyers to order like last time, its takes four days from order and money upfront not needed


  • Registered Users Posts: 933 ✭✭✭Shougeki


    computeruniverse.net looks pretty good and direct shipping is cheap too. Plus they take credit cards, or pay with Amazon/Paypal.

    I ordered a Corsair K40 from them [albeit while a bit drunk] and order a german layout. Realized just after they shipped. They were pretty helpful and understanding. Unfortunately, I was supposed to refuse the delivery at source to return it to them, but some idiot security guard at my company accepted it.
    Nice to deal with even after my own f**k up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    How much do they charge for direct shipping? Just wondering if they're worth it vs Amazon for singular products.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,684 ✭✭✭Darwin


    Gumbi wrote: »
    How much do they charge for direct shipping? Just wondering if they're worth it vs Amazon for singular products.

    It would appear to depend very much on both the weight and value of the item you are buying. For example, a €731 GPU with a package weight of 1.8Kg will cost €12.59 to ship by DHL (not sure if that is by DHL courier or by DHL Deutsche post) plus a €9 surcharge for using paypal or €12.77 for using a credit card. They look like a decent retailer, another one for the bookmarks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,417 ✭✭✭.G.


    levitronix wrote: »
    about 75 euro below retail, maybe more haven't got pricing yet, dollar is really strong, will need 3 buyers to order like last time, its takes four days from order and money upfront not needed

    Would there be a full warranty?. I'm not a 100% yet but I'm considering upgrading soon. Let me know when you have a price.

    EDIT:- Forgot OC'ing voids warranty anyway!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    superg wrote: »
    Would there be a full warranty?. I'm not a 100% yet but I'm considering upgrading soon. Let me know when you have a price.

    EDIT:- Forgot OC'ing voids warranty anyway!

    I don't think it does for K chips, and in any case, they won't know if you damaged your chip via overclocking (very hard to do btw).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,417 ✭✭✭.G.


    Gumbi wrote:
    I don't think it does for K chips, and in any case, they won't know if you damaged your chip via overclocking (very hard to do btw).


    I thought that myself but found a reply to the question regarding K cpus from someone at Intel saying any change in frequency voids the warranty. Which is all a bit silly really when they are advertising them as great over clockers!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    superg wrote: »
    I thought that myself but found a reply to the question regarding K cpus from someone at Intel saying any change in frequency voids the warranty. Which is all a bit silly really when they are advertising them as great over clockers!

    They can't know you overclocked them anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,137 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    levitronix wrote: »
    thinking of getting a few i7 6700k , a few boardsies got some stuff off me in January, just wondering if theres interest again

    Can vouch for Levi there.

    I bought an i5 around January I think, and have been loving my move to intel. Was also helpful in advising me about the various models(K, S etc.)

    The price was extremely good value also and the transaction was hassle free.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 659 ✭✭✭HowAreWe


    Shougeki wrote: »
    I ordered a Corsair K40 from them [albeit while a bit drunk] and order a german layout. Realized just after they shipped. They were pretty helpful and understanding. Unfortunately, I was supposed to refuse the delivery at source to return it to them, but some idiot security guard at my company accepted it.
    Nice to deal with even after my own f**k up.

    I accidentally bought a Spanish keyboard from the US a few weeks ago if you wanna swap.. :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,265 ✭✭✭..Brian..


    I've spent about a €1000 on ComputerUniverse and would definitely recommend them. They have a dedicated call centre which I've used, so they're very easy to get through to for any queries or to resolve issues. Their prices are fairly decent also. And if you're ordering a high value order, it's worth changing you country settings to UK and getting it delivered to Parcel Motel in Northern Ireland as you can get another few quid off with the UKs lower VAT % :) Saved me about €40 when buying my 290s!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,180 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    TheDoc wrote: »
    Can vouch for Levi there.

    I bought an i5 around January I think, and have been loving my move to intel. Was also helpful in advising me about the various models(K, S etc.)

    The price was extremely good value also and the transaction was hassle free.

    Ditto. Absolutely no fuss with my 4790K. Happy out. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    I love my 4790k. First time I won the silicon lottery was with that chip (though I did have the luck of having the choice of 3 chips lol) :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,180 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    Surely you didn't get to bin them though? I got a decidedly ****e 4790. :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    Serephucus wrote: »
    Surely you didn't get to bin them though? I got a decidedly ****e 4790. :P

    I had 3 chips on hand, and tested them all. 2 normal (probably capping out at 4.5 and 4.6ghz at 1.3v~ which would be a typical max on air give or take 0.02v), and the third hits 4.9ghz at 1.31v :) HT on of course.

    I sold the other 2. My brother got me and himself one via Intel, so we had 3 between us overall and kept 1. I think I could possibly hit 5ghz on air if I tweaked long enough with it, but it would be a stretch, as 1.31v at 4.9ghz gets into mid 80s when being benched.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,180 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    You lucky git. :P

    Maybe I should do what some people on OCN do and buy a bunch of different chips from a few different places, bench them all, then return all but the best...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    I gotta say, I was pleased with it. :P One advantage is it basically made any upgrade for a few gens obsolete, as assuming a typical 4.6ghz overclock, my current chip would be superior for at least the next year or two (although I am reading reports of Skylake being cooler due to VRMs being moved back onto mobo and them typically heating higher overclocks than haswell so we shall see...).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,180 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    To give you an idea, AFAIK (because I was playing with it the first few days I got it, and that was months ago) I think this thing needed something like 1.25 for 4.3.

    That said, I'm running the thing at stock (it's that bad, I just wasn't arsed with it) undervolted, and the fan on my NH-D15 very rarely spins. I've got a totally silent PC outside of gaming. Even then I can barely hear it over in-game audio.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    Serephucus wrote: »
    To give you an idea, AFAIK (because I was playing with it the first few days I got it, and that was months ago) I think this thing needed something like 1.25 for 4.3.

    That said, I'm running the thing at stock (it's that bad, I just wasn't arsed with it) undervolted, and the fan on my NH-D15 very rarely spins. I've got a totally silent PC outside of gaming. Even then I can barely hear it over in-game audio.

    Stock 4790k is nothing to sniff at. And sweet coolwr too!

    I like the overclock for one or two games specifically, I'd run it way undervolted otherwise.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 18,377 Mod ✭✭✭✭Solitaire


    Serephucus wrote: »
    To give you an idea, AFAIK (because I was playing with it the first few days I got it, and that was months ago) I think this thing needed something like 1.25 for 4.3.

    Cheer up, under heavy load the Skylake-based i7 typically runs at a stock voltage of 1.3-1.4V for stock 4GHz :eek:

    That said, Skylake undervolts well and is very new, suggesting platform stability issues that may be resolved once newer BIOSes are made available... On that note: have you tried OCing that old 4790K more recently with a newer BIOS? ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    Solitaire wrote: »
    Cheer up, under heavy load the Skylake-based i7 typically runs at a stock voltage of 1.3-1.4V for stock 4GHz :eek:

    That said, Skylake undervolts well and is very new, suggesting platform stability issues that may be resolved once newer BIOSes are made available... On that note: have you tried OCing that old 4790K more recently with a newer BIOS? ;)

    I am using a Z87x-D3H with the latest BIOS, so yes I guess :)

    There was a problem with the 4790ks in that, due to high stock speed (4ghz which turboed to 4.4ghz from a base of 4.0ghz) it gave it REALLY high stock volts of 1.35v~. Basically it was like the auto overclock mode which always applies way too much voltage.

    In fact I'm at 4.9ghz at less than the stock voltage technically ^^ at 1.31v.

    I imagine this caused a lot of problem for less tech savvy consumers, I know it's not a problem just my motherboard had.


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