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Early bud burst

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 985 ✭✭✭mountainy man


    Wild Bill wrote: »
    Now Oldtree, what the heck is this plant? :confused:

    (No trick question 'cos I've no idea)

    It's growing in a fairly light intensive part of the woodland.

    IMG_0705-001.jpg

    I hope i'm not butting in here but, that is a cotoneaster but don't know what its name is, a garden escapee - seed dropped by bird and def not a native :D

    Spring sprung here quickly here in the last few days rowan in leaf and flower buds visable, alder bursting forth now and birch and hawthorn showing tiny green leaves


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,104 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    MM by all means butt in to this "bud love in" or "budfest" (whichever you prefer) welcome.:D

    You are right its a Cotoneaster simonsii, also a devil to control, its all over the cong area and by the lake probably spred so widely by the birds.

    Saw a white and pink cherry in full flower in Castlebar yday, but am still waiting for the flowers of my bird cherry and plena to appear.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    Didn't realise that cotoneasters had naturalised! (Didn't have any planted)

    Budwise(r)! -

    IMG_0798-001.jpg

    Never before saw oak burst bud in March!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    Meanwhile the plum tree is coming on strong; barring a late frost we should have a crop this year!

    IMG_0769-001.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,104 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    Yes the plums are looking very good this year (father in law's) and I'm still waiting for my cherry to pop ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    On Wednesday I spotted what looked like "flags" covering the crown of a leafless poplar -

    IMG_0897-001.jpg

    The following morning some of them had fallen to the ground

    IMG_0892-001.jpg

    They are obviously some flower structure but I've never seen them on a poplar before; I thought poplars only spreading by cuttings?

    (The one in the top photo above was simply a twig stuck in the ground back in 1994)

    This morning after a breezy night the grass was covered in the things :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,104 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    Most Poplars and Willows take readily from cuttings, even a low branch hitting the soil or low on the trunk in tall damp grass can cause roots to sprout.

    Aspen shoots are known to sprout from its own roots so they can spread underground:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Largest_organisms

    Female poplars do flower and set seed.

    The photos look like flowers (although I have never seen them) so it looks like your cutting was taken from a female plant.

    Keep an eye out for Ash flowers sprouting soon and for a while thereafter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,104 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    A few more bud bursts:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,104 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    And a few flowers just for you big bill... ;)


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    Another acer from about three days back....

    IMG_0908-001.jpg

    Also see some ash bursting; saplings growing in deep shade.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    I'm seriously intrigued by these poplar floral structures......

    IMG_0990-001.jpg


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,221 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    Oldtree wrote: »
    And how do you put pics into a post (cant figure that out either)?
    If you don't want to use an image hosting website, you can make your photos visible in your post (rather than them just being links) by doing this -

    Upload the image via the manage attachments dialogue.
    Click the link for the uploaded image.
    The image will open in a separate window. This window will have its own URL.
    In the post where you want to show the picture, click the yellow icon with the mountains.
    This will ask you to enter the URL for the image.
    Paste the URL from the window with the image into the dialogue box.

    Sounds a bit longwinded, but it's straightforward enough.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    Wild Bill wrote: »
    1150334_b.jpg

    I though he knew how to do it :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,104 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    I do now ;);)

    199264.jpg


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,221 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    Holy moly, you choose poo as your first image :D


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    Oldtree wrote: »
    I do now ;);)

    199264.jpg

    All your own work? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,104 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    Goat spoor..... I do believe on wild strawberries ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,104 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    Holy holly bill :D

    noticed holly budbursting today

    200704.jpg


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    Still waiting for most of the holly...........cold weather has really put a stop to Spring's gallop :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,104 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    yes there has been a serious slowdown, but I had thought it is more related to decrease in light rather than decrease in warmth. ;)


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    Oldtree wrote: »
    I had thought it is more related to decrease in light rather than decrease in warmth. ;)

    Seems unlikely :)

    A week ago these naturally regenerated ash were in leaf. Record early for ash?

    IMG_1178-001.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,104 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    Bill, links have been known and shown between budburst and light periods as well as temp:

    http://www.springerlink.com/content/k81g517666550562/

    The ecological significance of phenology in four different tree species: effects of light and temperature on bud burst
    Amelia Caffarra & Alison Donnelly Department of Botany, School of Natural Sciences, Trinity College Dublin

    this is the summary here to give a flavor:

    Summary

    The aim of this study was to compare budburst responses of different tree species under different environmental conditions, and to consider their ecological significance. Our results suggest that phenology is regulated by a complex interplay of factors whose effects are related to the life strategy and distribution of each species. In addition, environmental cues can have different effects in different species, depending on their interaction and duration. Dominant, long-lived species such as T. cordata and F. sylvatica showed lower rates of budburst (longer times to budburst), high chilling requirements and responsiveness to light intensity, while opportunistic, pioneer species such as B. pubescens and S. x smithiana had high rates of budburst (shorter times to budburst), low chilling requirements and were not affected by light intensity. In addition, budburst in B. pubescens and S. x smithiana was more responsive to high forcing temperatures than in T. cordata and F. sylvatica. It appeared evident that while in all species studied dormancy release was controlled by both photoperiod and chilling, the degree to which the two triggers contributed to the progress of dormancy varied among species. In particular, while in F. sylvatica and T. cordata short photoperiod was used as a signal to prevent growth until a moderate-large chilling exposure had been fulfilled, in B. pubescens short photoperiod did not prevent growth even after 30–40 days of chilling. On the other hand, in S. x smithiana the effect of photoperiod was more limited. These results suggest that the timing of growth onset in B. pubescens and S. x smithiana was regulated through a less conservative mechanism than in T. cordata and F. sylvatica, and that these species trade a higher risk of frost damage for the opportunity of vigorous growth at the beginning of spring, when more light is available. Nonetheless, the use of one-node cuttings and newly rooted cuttings (B. pubescens and T. cordata) as opposed to whole trees suggests that these results should be interpreted with caution. Whereas rooted cuttings and trees grown from seeds show a similar phenology and growth rate in a number of tree species (Ritchie et al. 1992; Sasse and Sands 1996; Jurásek 2007), one-node cuttings might show shorter times to budburst compared to whole trees due to the lack of correlative inhibition (Chao et al. 2007). In addition, as these experiments used one specific tree clone for each species, intra-specific variability in phenology was not considered, so the present findings need further validation before they can be generalised. Thus, more studies evaluating different species and genotypes are needed. A more precise picture of the evolutionary drivers of phenology is important to assess potential responses of vegetation to climate change.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,104 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    The above link dosnt work today dont know why. The above article was from:

    Journal Title: International Journal of Biometeorology
    Volume: 55 Issue: 5
    Sept 2011


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,104 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    Ash before the oak we are in for a soak!!!

    And it looks as if the oak and beech are thinking of joining us in the next day or two.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    Beech and oak busting out simultaneously here! Lower branches fully flushed; higher up, starting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 Ettellig


    Fagus out a week since , Acer rubrum bursting, Aesculus a week back, oaks this week, Red oak last week, P.trichocarpa 10 days, Nothofagus 2 weeks and the wollemi pine flushed 3 weeks back. Coast redwood and Sequoiadendron about 10 days, hazel this past week, Norway maples a month back, Nobilis and Nordmann flushing, Sitka today...and the bluebells getting there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,104 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    bluebells flowering here a week since. Interesting to note that some english bluebells I have in a pot (could not fit all of them back in the hole when planting up an oak woodland in england) came out at the same time as the irish ones.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    Have no bluebells...ground completely covered in ivy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,104 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    Just for you big bill:

    202518.jpg

    and:

    202519.jpg

    and thats not the half of it. I took lots of photos this am of whats flowering on my woodland floor to show you, but half of the photos didnt look right on the pc so as the man says "i'll be back!!!" :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    You got ferns too! Apart from ivy, primroses and "lords'n'ladies" and bits here and there (elder too developing around the edges) - the ivy cover pretty much allows only trees to develop under the canopy.

    Ash and holly mostly, the odd sycamore. Massive sycamore regeneration in any open area with disturbed soil.


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