New York Giants Thread

wawaman · 12-04-2014 8:11am

Josh freeman has been in for a workout and talks of Matt Flynn coming in as well. Obviously insurance in case Eli's recovery takes longer than expected

wawaman · 14-04-2014 9:33am

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000340515/article/roster-reset-nfc-east

glued · 14-04-2014 2:36pm

I think if the Giants can get get Jason Pierre-Paul and Eli Manning playing then they will surely be in with a great shout of a playoff spot next season. I still think that the Redskins are going to get better but the health of RGIII has a huge bearing on their season. I don't think a guy like that can play 16 games a year. The Eagles have lost their best wide out but I'd expect that another season under Chip Kelly will see them improve as they get more used to his style and integrate guys like Sproles and maybe another wide out from the draft into this offense. I think the biggest problem for the Eagles is how is Foles going to react when he doesn't get away with those 'nearly' interceptions next year. He had a great year last year but he got away with one of two and I don't think he's going to be as successful next year. Losing DeSean is big but nothing that will rock that organisation too much. Losing Ware and Hatcher is a huge loss. Their DLine is a mess and I can't see them being as good next season.

I still think that Center is a huge need for the Giants and I think drafting an Center has to be on the cards. If Aaron Donald is there at 12 then the Giants will take him. He's an amazing player. I think Reese will taget three main needs in the first round and my preference would be to take Aaron Donald at 12, if Donald isn't there then you would imagine that the Giants would take Eric Ebron who will be an impact player and would get huge exposure in his rookie year with Adrien Robinson being the only other Tight End of note on the roster. Then if Ebron is gone at 12 I think the Giants will take Mike Evans. I think wide out is a need for the Giants. There is no doubt that the OLine, running game and passing game can't get much worse. I don't think Eli Manning is going to be as poor next season and Will Beatty has to bounce back and hopefully Jennings will improve the Giants too. Adding Mike Evans or Ebron gives Eli another weapon. I think if those three guys are gone then the Giants will be pretty pis$ed but then you would have to think that the Giants will look at Taylor Lewan.

I don't think Ebron will be there at 12 but I think you have to look at Troy Niklas in the second maybe trading back further in the second to take him. Also in the second you could see the Giants going for Austin Seferian-Jenkins or Jeremiah Attaochu.

My top three mock would be:

1) Aaron Donald, DT, Pittsburgh
2) Jeremiah Attaochu, OLB, Georgia Tech
3) Troy Niklas/Austin Seferian-Jenkins

Dublin Red Devil · 15-04-2014 2:16am

So what will the team look like next season.

Offence

Beatty - Schwartz - Walton - Snee - Pugh

Randle - Draft Pick - Cruz

Manning

Conner - Jennings

Dublin Red Devil · 15-04-2014 2:39am

Defence

Kiwanuka - Hankins - Jenkins - JPP

Williams - Beason - McClain

R.Cromartie - Rolle - Hill - Amukamara

Dublin Red Devil · 15-04-2014 2:50am

Ebron would be ideal

glued · 15-04-2014 12:23pm

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

Ebron would be ideal

It depends on what you want to do. A lot of analysts reckon that Ben McAdoo's 'West Coast Offense' will suit Eli Manning better and I agree with that. Gilbride's variation on the run & shoot suited Eli when his confidence was high but really neglected him when he was low on confidence. I think moving to a West Coast style will suit the team better. The main differences between the two is that there is a lot less decision making on the ball for Eli in the West Coast style that McAdo intends on running. I think the longer Eli has the ball in his hands the worse a decision maker he becomes. In 2011 Eli actually made some really smart football decisions and one key aspect that stays with me throughout that period was his ability to extend plays and keeping drives alive; a contradiction of my initial point. However, Eli has become less effective at employing this style and his confidence has dipped as a result of his poor decision making.

It's clear that at this stage of his career that Eli needed a change. He needed new ideas and a play generator that could use his ability efficiently. With the West Coast style the ball tends to get out quicker and there is less options and cover reads for the receivers too. This helps not only Eli Manning, but should improve our wide out play and out OLine should at least statistically get better; less pressures, sacks etc.

In my opinion a tight end is essential to fully exploiting the benefits of this offense. However, if Aaron Donald is there at number 12 then we have to take him. However, if we sign Kevin Williams I think that means that we're going to take Ebron and that may mean having to jump in front of Detriot.

Knex* · 15-04-2014 12:31pm

I actually read a graphic recently, where Eli's bad decision making last year was graphed at just over 2%. It was down from the year before. Made for some strange reading, and I might see if I can dig it up again.

Having no TE, no RB, and an OL not worth talking about, was a killer for Eli last year. Any system would have failed in it. It just spiraled too as confidence and injuries took a hit.

I do think the new offence will help, and there should be a lot less receiver/QB misreads etc, but Eli hasn't exactly been very accurate with short to medium throws in his career. The deep bomb was his main asset. I do think he can adjust though, but expect some miscues in the early weeks.

Unless they are seeing something out of Robinson (who has all the measurables to perform big if he can stay fit), then I think Ebron is the guy we go for. He'd probably have the most immediate impact and would be a big boost for Eli.

Also, people knocking Philly since they lost DeSean. Just wait and see people trying to stop them in a two TE offence, with Ertz and Celek. Throw McCoy and Sproles in, with Maclin or Cooper still keeping defences stretched, and that is still a nightmare for defences to face. A bloody nightmare.

We have been notoriously horrendous in recent years at stopping TE's such as Witten, too. Beason, plus the other additions and guys like Williams and Paysinger improving, should help there though.

glued · 15-04-2014 12:54pm

Hakeem Nicks I think suffered a lot as Gilbride began to expand his run & shoot. I don't think Nicks is an intelligent football player and his injuries only exacerbated his exposure to misreading coverage. I think Eli has a tendency to force the ball a bit too much. I don't think he's necessarily a terrible decision maker but I think the less decisions that you give him then the better he becomes. McAdoo likes the short game and a tight end is essential to that. When I'm saying that I think Eli is a poor decision maker I mean that he is poor when he's holding onto the ball too long and he tries to force the ball. One of his strengths is his quick decision making ability, something which a West Coast Offense relies on.

Knex* · 15-04-2014 1:03pm

Yeah. He's such an instinctive player, that a confident Eli in a West Coast offence could be a joy to see. Especially if we allow him to run a hurry up offence from time to time.

I'm very interested for the season ahead, if perhaps less excited than I was for last year. Tempered expectations, and all that.

krustydoyle · 16-04-2014 5:31pm

Josh Freeman signs a 1 yr deal

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/10790136/josh-freeman-new-york-giants-agree-deal

What you're back eli (hehehehe)

Knex* · 17-04-2014 12:16am

Interesting. Bye to Painter, and quite possibly Nassib too.

HigginsJ · 17-04-2014 12:58am

Knex. wrote: »

Interesting. Bye to Painter, and quite possibly Nassib too.

Hard to know really, if Freeman is focused & determined he clearly would be the best of the 3 but even if he was unfairly treated by Tampa (I believe Schiano screwed him over) he was still appeared to struggle in Minnesota as well.

If the rumours about being late for meetings etc. are true Coughlin will run him out of town, so it's last chance saloon which can only benefit us.

Nassib is puzzling because I can find nothing about him anywhere. You would think that there would be reports "leaking" about how he had been working hard in the off-season and showing great improvement. It is a great chance for someone to take 1st team reps for a while during OTA's but it is looking like Nassib is another pair of wasted mid-round picks by Jerry Reese.

Glad Curtis Painter could be gone, he didn't look anywhere near as cool as David Carr on the sidelines

glued · 18-04-2014 10:25am

What can we take from all the gossip and rumours to date? Well one thing that is almost for certain is that J.D. Walton is our Center next year. Reportedly, we're happy to see if Stork or Swanson fall to us late on.

Giants have extensively worked out Kadeem Williams, OT a likely undrafted prospect from Albany, NY.

Knex* · 18-04-2014 10:48am

Yeah, certainly agree on the Walton front. They must be really confident that he is over his injuries and can get back on track.

I wouldn't know a huge amount about him, as the majority of my knowledge has come in the last two years, before that I was an extremely casual watcher (more of an obsession now!).

What I can gather, he was pretty highly rated with the Broncos. Not quite Pro Bowl level, but consensus was that he could get there. Will be very interested in seeing how he pans out.

Our OL in general is an interesting thing. Well, worrying is probably another way of putting it! Very happy with Schwartz. Also happy with Pugh. Have no idea which Beatty we will see, and not a notion on how Snee will come back. Add those two uncertainties to the Walton question mark, and that's a worry, really.

Could be very good, could be similar story to last year. I can see us signing an interior line man, Guard or Center, in one of the later rounds. Hopefully Reese can shrug off his tendency to waste these picks.

Tight End is probably of bigger importance though, especially with our new offence. Just gotta weigh the value that Ebron would bring there, against the value of say, Donald to our Dline (another area that needs additions).

Very worrying how many question marks we have in the trenches, really. Already spoke about OLine, but we don't know how Moore will progress, or if JPP will perform as he did in 2011. Can Hankins replace Jospeh too?

Randle needs to play big in order to take attention away from Cruz, especially if we don't take Ebron, and even then, we may need another WR. A true outside threat, similar to Nicks, would be ideal, but I'm not so sure we can get that.

Two more question marks again here with Mario and Jernigan. Former has injuries, the latter its unknown whether he can he push on from last season or not. Was that simply a purple patch for him in some dead weight games?

I'm trying not to think too much on it until the Draft kicks off really, but suffice to say, we're very far from a well packaged deal.

tgdaly · 18-04-2014 8:57pm

HigginsJ wrote: »

Nassib is puzzling because I can find nothing about him anywhere. You would think that there would be reports "leaking" about how he had been working hard in the off-season and showing great improvement. It is a great chance for someone to take 1st team reps for a while during OTA's but it is looking like Nassib is another pair of wasted mid-round picks by Jerry Reese.

It's disappointing really. Nassib was decently rated coming out of Syracuse, and it was a surprise really when he fell to us when he did (remember many people actually had Doug Marrone and the Bills taking him in the first round!!!). There was talk that this guy was gonna sit behind Eli for a few years and be traded later for a high value pick. So far he doesn't seem to be generating anywhere near that buzz like Matt Flynn did or Ryan Mallett at the moment behind Brady

HigginsJ · 19-04-2014 9:07pm

http://www.giants.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Fan-asks-Steve-Weatherford-to-Prom/d0980a4a-2b6e-4343-80a4-3bad25038af1

With so much disgraceful behaviour from NFL players during the off-season it's nice to have Steve Weatherford as a Giant.

Kylo Ren · 20-04-2014 5:19pm

HigginsJ wrote: »

http://www.giants.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Fan-asks-Steve-Weatherford-to-Prom/d0980a4a-2b6e-4343-80a4-3bad25038af1

With so much disgraceful behaviour from NFL players during the off-season it's nice to have Steve Weatherford as a Giant.

Probably my favourite player the last two seasons.

Probably our best player the last two seasons

glued · 20-04-2014 6:20pm

Keno wrote: »

Probably my favourite player the last two seasons.

Probably our best player the last two seasons

I thought in 2012 Weatherford was fairly poor. Had an excellent 2011 and was good last year.

HigginsJ · 22-04-2014 3:53pm

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2014/04/will_hill_fails_another_drug_test_could_be_facing_hefty_suspension.html

****ity **** **** ****!!!! What a moron, really gutted if this comes to pass.

Knex* · 22-04-2014 3:55pm

Ah Jesus. Why would he do that after making impressions last season? Bloody idiot, if true.

glued · 22-04-2014 5:28pm

Get rid of him now. Add Terrell Thomas as cover for safety/corner and move on. Thankfully Stevie Brown is healthy and we have Demps now along with Cooper Taylor.

He's never going to learn. Such a shame for a guy that has the potential to be the best safety in the league.

HigginsJ · 22-04-2014 9:37pm

glued wrote: »

Get rid of him now. Add Terrell Thomas as cover for safety/corner and move on. Thankfully Stevie Brown is healthy and we have Demps now along with Cooper Taylor.

He's never going to learn. Such a shame for a guy that has the potential to be the best safety in the league.

I'd hold tough till I know for sure it's a year long suspension (you never know the commish might be feeling lenient!!) I would certainly bring him back next year.

I would be a bit worried about our safety depth without Hill. Stevie is healthy but still hasn't played in a year, I don't know a huge amount about Demps apart from the fact that he is a good special teamer & Cooper Taylor is very much an unknown quantity still. TT could be a good shout as a cheap stop gap.

I must have a look to see who is left on the market at this stage. The pickings are fairly slim at this point. The only one that would interest me is the former Jets safety Jim Leonard

glued · 22-04-2014 10:39pm

HigginsJ wrote: »

I'd hold tough till I know for sure it's a year long suspension (you never know the commish might be feeling lenient!!) I would certainly bring him back next year.

I would be a bit worried about our safety depth without Hill. Stevie is healthy but still hasn't played in a year, I don't know a huge amount about Demps apart from the fact that he is a good special teamer & Cooper Taylor is very much an unknown quantity still. TT could be a good shout as a cheap stop gap.

I must have a look to see who is left on the market at this stage. The pickings are fairly slim at this point. The only one that would interest me is the former Jets safety Jim Leonard

Ralph Vacchiano says it should only be 6-8 games and Will Hill plans to appeal any suspension handed down but he also said that the Giants are going to dump him.

David Wilson has said that his neck surgery isn't as serious as some were making it out to be and at no point did anyone advise him to not play football again. Will Beatty is 'ahead' of schedule but isn't sure whether he'll make the season opener or not. Eli Manning is rehabbing well and expects to be fully fit for training camp.

Jason Pierre-Paul expects to have full participation in camp this year and he says he's 15lbs lighter this year. Which is probably a move that suggests that he's trying to take as much pressure off his back as possible. Snee says that he's 100% too.

HigginsJ · 22-04-2014 10:51pm

glued wrote: »

Ralph Vacchiano says it should only be 6-8 games and Will Hill plans to appeal any suspension handed down but he also said that the Giants are going to dump him.

David Wilson has said that his neck surgery isn't as serious as some were making it out to be and at no point did anyone advise him to not play football again. Will Beatty is 'ahead' of schedule but isn't sure whether he'll make the season opener or not. Eli Manning is rehabbing well and expects to be fully fit for training camp.

Jason Pierre-Paul expects to have full participation in camp this year and he says he's 15lbs lighter this year. Which is probably a move that suggests that he's trying to take as much pressure off his back as possible. Snee says that he's 100% too.

If that's the case we'd be mad to dump him. He is simply too good.

That's good news about Wilson but he still has a tonne of questions to answer regarding fumbling & pass protection.

wawaman · 23-04-2014 10:58am

The full schedule is released later today. We get to see what the exact route is that stands in the way of another Super Bowl !!!!!

Knex* · 23-04-2014 11:14am

wawaman wrote: »

The full schedule is released later today. We get to see what the exact route is that stands in the way of another Super Bowl !!!!!

I think our Roster stands more in the way of a Super Bowl than our schedule, unfortunately :P

Kylo Ren · 24-04-2014 1:09am

Knex* · 24-04-2014 9:00am

Well, its not easy, that's for sure.

HigginsJ · 24-04-2014 10:04am

Knex. wrote: »

Well, its not easy, that's for sure.

It's so hard to say at this point in time. If Houston & Atlanta are back in play-off shape it's a 6/7 win schedule

Knex* · 24-04-2014 10:10am

One thing I will be interested in on Week 1; Prince or DRC to line up on Megatron.

Obviously we won't keep it 1 on 1, and Fewell likes zonal coverage anyway (although I do think we'll see more man and press), but after Coughlin's comments about DRC it'll be interesting to see if he shadows him.

Personally, I think Prince would be better suited to the bigger guys, and he did a decent job as far as I can remember when lined up against him on snaps last year.

Anyway, that's ages away and a lot can happen before then.

Knex* · 24-04-2014 11:26am

Looking at that schedule again, and considering we have to learn a new playbook and embed many new players, that's not good.

3 Divisional away games leading up to the bye, and then we have Colts, 'Hawks, 9'ers and Cowbows right after.

We also have no idea what Houston and Falcons will be like, and Arizona are on the up after a great year last time round, too. Looking at that stretch we really need to be in the plus hitting that bye, perhaps even 5-2, and I'm not sure we can do that.

As I said, learning a new offence and bedding in new players, so was hoping we'd nearly get the tough games out of the way at the start, and then learn from there and build our momentum.

However, if we can hit the bye at 4-3, or by some stroke of luck 5-2. then we can perhaps afford to go 1-3 after the bye, before rolling on with the last five games, all of which are very winnable.

I'll reassess after the Draft, but 8-8 or 9-7 will be my expectation for the season as things stand. And that is perhaps being optimistic :pac:

Will most likely need 10-6 though for either the division or Wild Card spot. Certainly, we need to start well if we have any chance, and circumstances make that tough.

wawaman · 24-04-2014 12:56pm

We can't start any worse than last year! So any win is a bonus. This has to be a make or break year for coughlin and reese I would imagine

Knex* · 24-04-2014 1:00pm

wawaman wrote: »

We can't start any worse than last year! So any win is a bonus. This has to be a make or break year for coughlin and reese I would imagine

Could add Eli and a few others to that list too!

KrustyUCC · 24-04-2014 10:08pm

not easy but i don't mind our schedule

@Detroit where we won last year
2 homes games v dome teams
division game anything can happen
dome team at home
division game anything can happen
division game anything can happen
dome team at home and reunion with Nicks
champions away
49ers are tough but last time we played them we gave them a whooping
division game anything can happen
surely a home win vs jags
titans is a game we should target a W in
division game anything can happen
away to rams who will be hugely improved with all picks they got
division game anything can happen

Knex* · 26-04-2014 12:14pm

Watching Washington @ Green Bay (Week 2) from last season.

For anyone interested, opening drive was as follows:

Play action over the middle (dropped pass by Nelson)
Bubble screen to Cobb (4 yards) from Y Trips
No huddle 3rd & 6 - Draw 'Skins offside.
3rd & 1 - Play action from I Formation. Cobb 21 yards.

1&10 WR Screen to Jones. Shotgun draw, Y Trips again
2&short Draw play - Lacy 10 yards rushing (sickening hit from Meriweather..no surprise here)

1&10 Smoke screen to Jones again - 9 yards
2&1 Starks gains 1

1&10 holding call.
1&20 Quick short out route to Cobb. Takes it for a TD but called for stepping out of bounds.
2&3 2 yard rush
3&1 Curl flat to Jones - 10 yards

Inside Washington 10
1&10 (Gun) Sacked
2&18 (Gun) Sacked
3&24 (Gun) Short stick pass to Finley (Not sure how to describe these as they look like screens. You see Denver do a lot of them)

Anyway, not very concise with the above but you get the picture. Biggest thing that stands out, for me, is the pass first mentality, and the high percentage of screens or short stick routes that rely on yards after catch. Also, Green Bay have always favoured a more 'Spread' type offence, but there was perhaps two snaps at most where they didn't have 3 wide receivers on the field, alongside Finley in TE.

We all knew McAdoo was going to want to boost the screens game, which would basically mean create one, because we sure as hell haven't had one for as long as I can remember. But I do feel this is a massive change.

Can't imagine Coughlin allowing McAdoo break too far away from the run game, though.

Be very interesting to see how Eli adapts to this and also if our OL can put up with the pressure they'll get. You can see with the sacks above in the Red Zone that not having the TE blocking or having the Full Back on the field hurt them, a little, as Rodgers didn't have the time to throw, and couldn't get out of the pocket to scramble either. (Eli won't be scrambling, full stop. If he can get back to avoiding pressure in the pocket though, we'll all be delighted).

Just to quickly touch base on the WR packages they play, Cobb in the slot was able to get open a bit as Jones and Nelson took attention on the outside. I imagine this will pan out as the game goes on too. We need Randle to step it up, but still not convinced he can be a #1 WR. Would love to get a 2011 Nicks to take that attention of Cruz and allow him to get free.

Personnel right now has me slightly worried about the adapting required, but I do like where we are headed.

Anyway, a Saturday morning ramble. Makes sense of it if you will

Knex* · 26-04-2014 12:34pm

Yeah, following up on the Cobb/Cruz thing. First TD of the game came from 4&3 in the Red Zone, spread formation Empty Gun, and Cobb gets free in the slot.

helimachoptor · 28-04-2014 5:12pm

Giants sign.... Rusty Smith..

Perennial practice squad guy for the Titans...

Kylo Ren · 28-04-2014 5:54pm

helimachoptor wrote: »

Giants sign.... Rusty Smith..

Perennial practice squad guy for the Titans...

What the fuck.

Why? Surely Freeman, Nassib and Painter can battle it out for #2 and #3.

Weird.

helimachoptor · 28-04-2014 6:33pm

Yeah seems odd, maybe he's going to the giants Ps..

HigginsJ · 28-04-2014 7:45pm

helimachoptor wrote: »

Yeah seems odd, maybe he's going to the giants Ps..

Doubt he has eligibility left

helimachoptor · 28-04-2014 8:17pm

HigginsJ wrote: »

Doubt he has eligibility left

he's only been active for a few games so still eligible id say

KrustyUCC · 28-04-2014 10:19pm

Keno wrote: »

What the fuck.

Why? Surely Freeman, Nassib and Painter can battle it out for #2 and #3.

Weird.

both painter and eli injured

just another body to take few reps

Kylo Ren · 29-04-2014 1:18am

KrustyUCC wrote: »

both painter and eli injured

just another body to take few reps

Ah, didn't know Painter was out.

KrustyUCC · 01-05-2014 10:32pm

lots of articles about Martin to giants at 12

thoughts?

HigginsJ · 01-05-2014 10:42pm

KrustyUCC wrote: »

lots of articles about Martin to giants at 12

thoughts?

Zack Martin? I hope not, spending another 1st round pick on a guy who can't play LT would be stupid IMO.

I have read a few reports that are saying to forget about Eric Ebron. We bafflingly have no interest in him.

Again a week before the draft this could all be nothing but noise, no-one had us taking Justin Pugh last year

Knex* · 01-05-2014 10:46pm

KrustyUCC wrote: »

lots of articles about Martin to giants at 12

thoughts?

Zach Martin? I know our OL was in rag orders last year, but I really want a big body receiver/tight end if we can get them at 12. If not, Donald would really add to what we have on D, and help solidify it as a Top 10 defence.

A lot will probably depend on what goes before us, I suppose. If a lot of OL'men go in the first 11 picks, similar to last season, you may see us go for someone like Martin then, before the quality gets too diluted.

Also, hearing talk of potential trade if say, only 1 QB is taken by pick 12 (meaning most from the Jags, Texans, Browns, Raiders, Vikings and Buccs will still need one). Couple of teams might be interested in getting in ahead of the Rams, and the rest of the pack, to pick up Bridgewater, Carr or Bortles.

I wouldn't be against that, really. 49'ers have a lot of picks, but they'll be looking WR, and it would probably annoy me to see us trade with them and have them take somebody that I would really want for us, such as Beckham Jnr - Even if we could do with the extra picks.

I can't wait for Draft Day, at this stage.

Knex* · 01-05-2014 10:51pm

HigginsJ wrote: »

Zack Martin? I hope not, spending another 1st round pick on a guy who can't play LT would be stupid IMO.

I have read a few reports that are saying to forget about Eric Ebron. We bafflingly have no interest in him.

Again a week before the draft this could all be nothing but noise, no-one had us taking Justin Pugh last year

Just seeing this after my post.

Definitely agree on Martin, and that's with me only finding out now that he can't play LT! At 12 it seems like such a reach.

Yeah, a lot has cooled on the Ebron talk, which is a shame, but a lot of mocks have him gone before our pick ever comes around, anyway, so perhaps that is contributing?

Kylo Ren · 04-05-2014 4:15pm

KrustyUCC · 04-05-2014 10:14pm

Good memories

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx/09000d5d825e9dda/Sound-FX-Falcons-vs-Giants

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx/09000d5d8261ef4f/Sound-FX-Giants-vs-Packers

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx/09000d5d8265c557/Sound-FX-Giants-vs-49ers-first-half

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx/09000d5d8265c8fe/Sound-FX-Giants-vs-49ers-second-half

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx/09000d5d826c94b4/SB-XLVI-Sound-FX-Giants-strike-first

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx/09000d5d826c94b6/SB-XLVI-Sound-FX-Patriots-fire-back

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx/09000d5d826ca6b7/SB-XLVI-Sound-FX-A-physical-battle

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx/09000d5d826ca796/SB-XLVI-Sound-FX-A-Giant-drive

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