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NFC Tags

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    #32
    nedd
    Registered Users Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭nedd


    DAMN YOU EBAY!!!! (and by eBay I mean me)

    Just ordered two sets by mistake.


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    #33
    Mimikyu
    Registered Users Posts: 18,907 ✭✭✭✭Mimikyu


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    #34
    mik_da_man
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 9,929 ✭✭✭mik_da_man


    nedd wrote: »
    DAMN YOU EBAY!!!! (and by eBay I mean me)

    Just ordered two sets by mistake.

    For how much?
    I could take the spare ones....


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    #35
    ferrigan101
    Registered Users Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭ferrigan101


    Ordered the ones that Listermint recommended.

    Think I'll only need 3 for day to day use. Wonder what mischief I can get upto with the spare 2....


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    #36
    Dummy
    Registered Users Posts: 984 ✭✭✭Dummy


    1K tags will not run with Android ?

    Is this correct or am I just going potty again?


    D.


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    #37
    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,713 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Dummy wrote: »
    1K tags will not run with Android ?

    Is this correct or am I just going potty again?


    D.

    im not sure if you looked at my post, but ive already had 1K tags for 3 months (on android)

    hope that answers your questions.


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    #38
    Fanatec
    Registered Users Posts: 32 ✭Fanatec


    stackeye wrote: »
    I got 5 tags today from airnfc, I'm going to use one in the car and one beside the bed, I use an app called NFC task launcher, it allows you to set two lists of commands and you toggle between them on the one tag,
    Mr E wrote: »
    Can they be found in regular shops here, or do you have to order them online?

    Airnfc seem to be the only place in the country that sell the tags. I ordered 10 tags a couple of weeks ago and they came in 4 days.

    I'm using the NFC TagWriter by NXP to program but I might start using NFC Task Launcher since they recently made it free.


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    #39
    mik_da_man
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 9,929 ✭✭✭mik_da_man


    Just a quick question for anyone with tags, how near do they work? Do you have to touch the phone off the tag?


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    #40
    Professey Chin
    Registered Users Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    mik_da_man wrote: »
    Just a quick question for anyone with tags, how near do they work? Do you have to touch the phone off the tag?

    Just about. Theyre designed for close proximity so its about an inch or so


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    #41
    carbon nanotube
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 994 ✭✭✭carbon nanotube


    The Great Chinholio wrote: »
    I have 1 in work for my work profile settings (volume off, vibrate on etc)
    1 in my car holder for car mode and change a couple settings
    1 for leaving the house & 1 on my bedside table too

    the htc one x got a car mode, and i can use llama for profile settings.

    I have a one x but not even used NFC or don't have reason to for the moment.


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    #42
    The_B_Man
    Registered Users Posts: 7,859 ✭✭✭The_B_Man


    silly question maybe, but if you stick a tag to your car dock, wont it be constantly scanning the NFC tag since its in close proximity? I've never used NFC before so maybe its something obvious i'm missing.


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    #43
    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,713 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    The_B_Man wrote: »
    silly question maybe, but if you stick a tag to your car dock, wont it be constantly scanning the NFC tag since its in close proximity? I've never used NFC before so maybe its something obvious i'm missing.

    No it reads only once, (entering the zone) and then you have to exit.

    When you reenter the 'zone' it tags again (be it off or on depending on your settings)

    But there is no constant 'in the zone' tagging.


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    #44
    nedd
    Registered Users Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭nedd


    mik_da_man wrote: »
    For how much?
    I could take the spare ones....

    yeah I don't think I will need 20 tags. When I get the second set I will let you know.

    I will PM you now.


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    #45
    ED E
    Registered Users Posts: 36,166 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Need to find somebody else with NFC so I can try out Beam.

    Also tempted to try and replicate my luas card xD


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    #46
    nedd
    Registered Users Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭nedd


    I don't think replicating RFID cards using NFC is possible. I'm open to correction here.


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    #47
    Zagato
    Registered Users Posts: 1,775 ✭✭✭Zagato


    ED E wrote: »
    Need to find somebody else with NFC so I can try out Beam.

    Also tempted to try and replicate my luas card xD

    I guess what needs to happen is Leap to release an app that can recognise your phone (as a card) and you can just top it up?

    Surely you can't just replicate them -otherwise NFC wouldn't be touted to replace chip + pin cards


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    #48
    swampy353
    Registered Users Posts: 932 ✭✭✭swampy353


    nedd wrote: »
    I don't think replicating RFID cards using NFC is possible. I'm open to correction here.
    You're right NFC runs at 15.37mhz where RFID runs at 125mhz


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    #49
    ED E
    Registered Users Posts: 36,166 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    nedd wrote: »
    I don't think replicating RFID cards using NFC is possible. I'm open to correction here.

    Well considering my XS can read my smartcard I would have to assume that the system is NFC based.


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    #50
    Chet T16
    Registered Users Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭Chet T16


    RFID runs at 125kHz or 13.56MHz. The SIII will only read the 13.56MHz ones


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    #51
    nedd
    Registered Users Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭nedd


    OK, so some tags have arrived and before I start i have a question for people who have used them.

    Firstly can i re-write a tag?

    Secondly i want to do the following:
    Swipe Tag: Turn On Wifi, Turn Phone to Silent.
    Swipe the Same Tag: Turn Off Wifi, turn phone off silent.

    can I do this with one tag or do i need two tags? One for when i get into work, and one for when i leave work?


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    #52
    elderlemon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭elderlemon


    First off you don't program tags. Instead you get your phone to read the tag id, which is fixed, and respond to the tag in a predetermined way.

    There are apps in the market that will do this for you
    nedd wrote: »
    OK, so some tags have arrived and before I start i have a question for people who have used them.

    Firstly can i re-write a tag?

    Secondly i want to do the following:
    Swipe Tag: Turn On Wifi, Turn Phone to Silent.
    Swipe the Same Tag: Turn Off Wifi, turn phone off silent.

    can I do this with one tag or do i need two tags? One for when i get into work, and one for when i leave work?


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    #53
    Chet T16
    Registered Users Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭Chet T16


    It depends what app you're using. NFC task launcher writes to the tag to tell it what to do whereas the tasker plugins read the serial number of the tag and set the action based on that - no writing needed.

    Its easier to set up a switch condition with NFC task launcher


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    #54
    elderlemon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭elderlemon


    I learn something new every day. Thanks


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    #55
    nedd
    Registered Users Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭nedd


    elderlemon wrote: »
    First off you don't program tags. Instead you get your phone to read the tag id, which is fixed, and respond to the tag in a predetermined way.

    There are apps in the market that will do this for you

    I'm using NFC Task Launcher so it does program the tag. there is 35bytes of data available to be written.


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    #56
    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,713 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    elderlemon wrote: »
    First off you don't program tags. Instead you get your phone to read the tag id, which is fixed, and respond to the tag in a predetermined way.

    There are apps in the market that will do this for you

    Well by program, i think he means write so in effect you are programming a response into the tag.

    So he is correct.


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    #57
    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,713 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    mickoneill30 wrote: »
    This app (NFC Task Launcher) has this in their description.

    "Because the commands are written to the tag there is no service to sign up for and they work on *any* device with the app installed."

    Yes, you program the tag with your phone, and anyone with an NFC phone and an NFC app enabled can read them. Its fairly simple


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    #58
    PrzemoF
    Registered Users Posts: 1,931 ✭✭✭PrzemoF


    elderlemon wrote: »
    First off you don't program tags. Instead you get your phone to read the tag id, which is fixed, and respond to the tag in a predetermined way.

    There are apps in the market that will do this for you

    http://kimtag.com/s/nfc_tags

    I never had a chance to do it, but looks like some info can be stored on a tag. Can someone with hands-on experience clarify that?


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    #59
    mik_da_man
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 9,929 ✭✭✭mik_da_man


    PrzemoF wrote: »
    elderlemon wrote: »
    First off you don't program tags. Instead you get your phone to read the tag id, which is fixed, and respond to the tag in a predetermined way.

    There are apps in the market that will do this for you

    http://kimtag.com/s/nfc_tags

    I never had a chance to do it, but looks like some info can be stored on a tag. Can someone with hands-on experience clarify that?

    Well surely as the tags are advertised as having memory means they store the commands?
    That was my understanding anyway...


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    #60
    nedd
    Registered Users Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭nedd


    OK, so i am using the tags right now. Like I mentioned there is memory on the tag that can be written to. Each command is only small so you can fit a good few on it.

    You can re-write the tags.

    Set up Tasks on the app as follows:
    Task Arrive in work:
    turn on wifi / Turn phone to vibrate

    Task Leave Work:
    Turn off wifi / turn phone to normal volume / open Music app.

    create a new Switch tag that when scanned will run the first task, when scanned again will run the second task.

    brilliant so far.


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    #61
    god's toy
    Registered Users Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭god's toy


    if they work as well as the 'Touch to Share' on the GS3, NFC tags will be on my shopping list fir sure .

    I can think of about ten places I could stick em for automated changes.


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