Desire Camera Blur

lafors · 06-08-2010 12:53pm #1

Could anyone who has a desire please put up some photos they've taken with it.
All my photos are terrible, not in focus unless the object it right beside the lens. I've read the other thread, tried it with 2 hands etc but still very blurry.

Here's some of mine...

Abelloid · 06-08-2010 1:02pm

Mine are the same, if not worse. You need to clean the lens cover (both sides) and the lens to sharpen up the images. PITA. :rolleyes:

lafors · 06-08-2010 1:09pm

JustinOval wrote: »

Mine are the same, if not worse. You need to clean the lens cover (both sides) and the lens to sharpen up the images. PITA. :rolleyes:

Done that, thats not the problem. I work for Nikon so I know my cameras, its a hardware problem imho. I contacted HTC, no reply yet.
Check out the HTC desire photos on flickr and you'll see what they should be like.

MiCr0 · 06-08-2010 1:13pm

i'd suggest turning off auto-review if you have it on

Abelloid · 06-08-2010 1:14pm

lafors wrote: »

Done that, thats not the problem. I work for Nikon so I know my cameras, its a hardware problem imho. I contacted HTC, no reply yet.
Check out the HTC desire photos on flickr and you'll see what they should be like.

Interesting. I've never been happy with mine, and I'm still looking for an alternative as the camera is important to me. Cleaning does improve it a little, but not to a level I'd be happy with.

partyatmygaff · 06-08-2010 1:17pm

^Photo taken by a Desire^

It should be capable of much more. That does seem like there's a hardware problem.

Abelloid · 06-08-2010 1:23pm

Looking through some of the pics on Flickr has really pissed me off now. :mad:

Abelloid · 06-08-2010 1:39pm

I just tried the camera again, it's at the point of being completely useless now.

Close-up isn't too bad, but in normal use it's pointless even trying to take a pic.

http://imgur.com/H8psh (about a week ago)

Today -

http://imgur.com/luaSw

lafors · 06-08-2010 1:49pm

JustinOval wrote: »

I just tried the camera again, it's at the point of being completely useless now.

Close-up isn't too bad, but in normal use it's pointless even trying to take a pic.

http://imgur.com/H8psh (about a week ago)

Today -

http://imgur.com/luaSw

Exact same for me, close up is fine but anything else is rubbish.
Out of interest PAMG & Justin when you hold your phone normally with one hand and tap it up near the camera with a finger (from the same hand) does it sound like the lens is rattling to you?
I'm thinking my lens is not able to focus at all and is detached inside.

That pic you put up PAMG has me raging too :mad:

Keano · 06-08-2010 2:06pm

Here are a few I've taken. Quality is poor.

Abelloid · 06-08-2010 2:18pm

lafors wrote: »

Exact same for me, close up is fine but anything else is rubbish.
Out of interest PAMG & Justin when you hold your phone normally with one hand and tap it up near the camera with a finger (from the same hand) does it sound like the lens is rattling to you?
I'm thinking my lens is not able to focus at all and is detached inside.

That pic you put up PAMG has me raging too :mad:

Yes! Yes, it does. :eek:

partyatmygaff · 06-08-2010 2:37pm

That's normal on all autofocusing lenses. It's how they're designed. Every single Desire has that rattling sound if you tap it.

I'm gonna take a few photos to show you how it's done

Abelloid · 06-08-2010 2:42pm

We know how it's done, but if the lens can't focus there isn't much we can do.

partyatmygaff · 06-08-2010 3:03pm

JustinOval wrote: »

We know how it's done, but if the lens can't focus there isn't much we can do.

It's not a defect, the lens focuses perfectly well. That rattling is a byproduct of its design.

The biggest issue with all these shots is shutter speed and unstable shots. In high light the shutter speed can go far lower meaning a much higher chance of getting a clear stable shot. In low light conditions it gets longer thus meaning a higher chance of the shot becoming blurred.

Abelloid · 06-08-2010 3:17pm

partyatmygaff wrote: »

It's not a defect, the lens focuses perfectly well. That rattling is a byproduct of its design.

The biggest issue with all these shots is shutter speed and unstable shots. In high light the shutter speed can go far lower meaning a much higher chance of getting a clear stable shot. In low light conditions it gets longer thus meaning a higher chance of the shot becoming blurred.

Sorry, but that's bullsh!t, regardless of any setting or steadiness the lens cannot focus on our handsets. Rattle aside I now also believe there is a hardware fault.

More here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7495746

Abelloid · 06-08-2010 3:30pm

I've just taken these 4 pics in daylight, battery cover off, phone held steady on back of chair, different ISO settings - auto, 100 and 800.

http://imgur.com/a/A99WS/htc_desire_camera_test

Useless.

Abelloid · 06-08-2010 3:36pm

For a camera that doesn't have a macro mode I'd say this is pretty good, no?

http://imgur.com/Uibbd

Is the focus out of range/calibration or something?

partyatmygaff · 06-08-2010 3:40pm

A few photos

Ah nostalgia...

All the above - Bray Beach

Phoenix Park at dusk

As you can see the photos look pretty well focused (For a phone camera with a 2mm lens at least). If you can't get anything to that level of sharpness in good lighting conditions e.t.c. then you've a dodgy camera sensor in your Desire.

Abelloid · 06-08-2010 3:46pm

They're not great TBH. :P

Abelloid · 06-08-2010 3:53pm

More on the rattle -

http://androidforums.com/htc-desire/61574-desire-rattle-camera.html

http://www.htcforums.com/threads/4579-Irritating-rattle

partyatmygaff · 06-08-2010 3:58pm

Why are you making such a big fuss over the lens rattle? It's not a defect in the camera

mickoneill30 · 06-08-2010 4:06pm

lafors wrote: »

Could anyone who has a desire please put up some photos they've taken with it.
All my photos are terrible, not in focus unless the object it right beside the lens. I've read the other thread, tried it with 2 hands etc but still very blurry.

Here's a couple I just took.

the one of the keyboard is in a dullish room. I didn't use the flash.

They seem OK to me or at least are good enough for me.

IMAG0013.jpg

IMAG0012.jpg

Abelloid · 06-08-2010 4:06pm

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Why are you making such a big fuss over the lens rattle? It's not a defect in the camera

How can you be sure? I really don't know, it may be related to the focus problem it may not...

Euan wrote:

Apparently it shouldn't rattle. Orange are replacing it tomorrow. Happy days, what nice people:)

http://www.htcforums.com/threads/4579-Irritating-rattle

I think that's relevant, don't you?

Abelloid · 06-08-2010 4:08pm

mickoneill30 wrote: »

Here's a couple I just took.

the one of the keyboard is in a dullish room. I didn't use the flash.

They seem OK to me or at least are good enough for me.

IMAG0013.jpg

IMAG0012.jpg

I'd be very happy with those.

partyatmygaff · 06-08-2010 4:14pm

JustinOval wrote: »

How can you be sure? I really don't know, it may be related to the focus problem it may not...

http://www.htcforums.com/threads/4579-Irritating-rattle

I think that's relevant, don't you?

No I think the post that followed is quite relevant

New phone, same rattle!

Still always nice to get a new phone 2 weeks in to your contract.

Further Googling found that this is a common issue/non-issue.

More info here:

http://androidforums.com/htc-desire/61574-desire-rattle-camera.html

As I told you, it's a non-issue. It does not affect the lens' focusing abilities. Mine rattles as does yours. There's no doubt the photos taken with my camera are less blurry than say Keano's or yours. Why that is could be due to numerous factors like lighting, steadiness e.t.c. or even a faulty camera sensor.

Abelloid · 06-08-2010 4:17pm

partyatmygaff wrote: »

No I think the post that followed is quite relevant

As I told you, it's a non-issue. It does not affect the lens' focusing abilities. Mine rattles as does yours. There's no doubt the photos taken with my camera are less blurry than say Keano's or yours. Why that is could be due to numerous factors like lighting, steadiness e.t.c. or even a faulty camera sensor.

OK, I'll give you that one - I didn't spot the reverse chronological order of the posts.

Can we agree on a faulty sensor then?

lafors · 06-08-2010 4:23pm

partyatmygaff wrote: »

No I think the post that followed is quite relevant

As I told you, it's a non-issue. It does not affect the lens' focusing abilities. Mine rattles as does yours. There's no doubt the photos taken with my camera are less blurry than say Keano's or yours. Why that is could be due to numerous factors like lighting, steadiness e.t.c. or even a faulty camera sensor.

Agreed, I probably shouldn't have mentioned the rattle.
I'm getting the exact same photos as justin though, macro style shots are very clear anything more than 1ft away is blurred. Light outside or iso or any settings are not making a blind bit of difference. Defo a problem.......I so want to rip the lens out and have a look, must resist

If I tap on the screen to refocus on another point is moves slightly but never comes into focus, it seems to think its focused but its not.

Mantel · 06-08-2010 4:44pm

Has anyone tried a third party photo ap like camera fx instead of the stock ap? I found the focusing method on it to be better, hold down the button to focus and let go to take instead.

Covey · 06-08-2010 4:56pm

Mantel wrote: »

Has anyone tried a third party photo ap like camera fx instead of the stock ap? I found the focusing method on it to be better, hold down the button to focus and let go to take instead.

Absolutely. I use the above and it focuses grand even in poor light. you can see it move from an initial oof to focus. The camera app with the phone doesn't appear to focus at all, hence out of focus photos. A fault I would say.

partyatmygaff · 06-08-2010 4:57pm

Vignette is pretty good although it doesn't offer anything for focus issues.

@Justin

Yup, either that or you just don't have 1337 ph0t0 t4k1ng 5k1llz. :pac:

Abelloid · 06-08-2010 5:15pm

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Vignette is pretty good although it doesn't offer anything for focus issues.

@Justin

Yup, either that or you just don't have 1337 ph0t0 t4k1ng 5k1llz. :pac:

It's going back under warranty.

Vignette (paid version) @ 3.1MP -

http://imgur.com/chB0u

FX Camera is the same.

partyatmygaff · 06-08-2010 5:18pm

Definitely something going on over there that shouldn't be. That looks as if it was taken by an old VGA digital camera :eek:

lafors · 07-08-2010 11:51am

HTC Support wrote:

Thank you for contacting us. In regards to the camera issues, I can help you with that. You will need to perform a hard reset: Warning: Resetting your phone will erase all data stored on the phone memory completely. Remember to back up the phone information and settings. To perform a hard reset please do the following: Go to the Home Screen Press Menu Tap Settings Tap Privacy Tap Factory data reset Tap Reset phone It is also possible to perform a factory reset by using the hardware buttons on the phone. 1. With the phone turned off, press and hold the VOLUME DOWN button, and then briefly press the POWER button. 2. Wait for the screen with the 3 Android images to appear, and then release the VOLUME DOWN button. 3. Press VOLUME DOWN to select CLEAR STORAGE, and then press POWER. 4. When asked to confirm, press VOLUME UP Will I lose all my calendar events, contacts and emails if I have to perform a factory reset? Yes, you will lose your data on the phone. However if you have set up a Google account on your phone, your data is synchronized and backed up on your Google account. To setup a Google account, please do the following: Go to the Home screen Press Menu Tap Settings Tap Accounts & sync Tap Add Account Tap Google Tap Next Tap Sign in Enter the Google Username and Password Tap Sign in The handset will now automatically sync Contacts, Calendar and Gmail with the Google account. I trust that this resolves your query, please do not hesitate to contact us again if required.

BTW it was formatted like that in the mail...hard to read!
So they want me to do a hard reset after I just finished setting my phone up the way I like it :mad:

partyatmygaff · 07-08-2010 11:58am

lafors wrote: »

BTW it was formatted like that in the mail...hard to read!
So they want me to do a hard reset after I just finished setting my phone up the way I like it :mad:

Won't help at all tbh.

You need a different/newer ROM. Are you running 2.2?

lafors · 07-08-2010 1:12pm

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Won't help at all tbh.

You need a different/newer ROM. Are you running 2.2?

Yep running stock 2.2
All my pictures have been like this from when I got the phone.

Abelloid · 07-08-2010 1:19pm

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Won't help at all tbh.

You need a different/newer ROM. Are you running 2.2?

Correct. Just tried it, no difference.

Dr. Loon · 07-08-2010 1:38pm

Here's a few from mine. I always found the quality decent once you take a steady shot. Must be a hardware problem. As you can see from the filenames, 2 were taken with CameraZoom and 1 with the standard camera.

Covey · 07-08-2010 2:20pm

Dr. Loon wrote: »

Here's a few from mine. I always found the quality decent once you take a steady shot. Must be a hardware problem. As you can see from the filenames, 2 were taken with CameraZoom and 1 with the standard camera.

I think you've just proved the point there. The difference between Camera Zoom (which appears to activate the auto focus) and the camera on the phone (which appears not to) is simply light and day :eek: in those shots

Abelloid · 07-08-2010 2:24pm

I tried emailing and calling HTC this morning, but if a reset is their solution I'll give up. Meteor shop said I can return it to them (10 working days), or drop it into the local service centre. I think I'll do that next week.

Abelloid · 08-08-2010 9:47pm

Here's a pic I took when the phone was new. Not bad.

http://imgur.com/28vc3

lafors · 11-08-2010 1:58pm

HTC emailed me back, they want me to drop it into the repair centre here.
They better give me a replacement phone while they're fixing it.

Abelloid · 11-08-2010 2:02pm

I have to send mine to UK for repair. Tempted to buy a Galaxy S to use in the meantime. :pac:

Kenno90 · 11-08-2010 2:45pm

JustinOval wrote: »

I have to send mine to UK for repair. Tempted to buy a Galaxy S to use in the meantime. :pac:

No recession for you:pac:

Abelloid · 11-08-2010 3:03pm

Kenno90 wrote: »

No recession for you:pac:

I'm out of contract now, €99 for a Galaxy S with a new contract, then sell it (or the Desire..) for €350.

Abelloid · 12-08-2010 3:00pm

lafors wrote: »

HTC emailed me back, they want me to drop it into the repair centre here.
They better give me a replacement phone while they're fixing it.

Can you let us know how that goes? Mine has gone back with a courier, it's going to be a long two weeks...

lafors · 12-08-2010 3:07pm

JustinOval wrote: »

Can you let us know how that goes? Mine has gone back with a courier, it's going to be a long two weeks...

I'm in work so wont get to send it in this week. I bet it'll be the same as you, send it to the UK

grimbo · 12-08-2010 3:15pm

For what it's worth

I noticed the same [blurry] problem with mine, but there wasn't the same problem with the phone back off. I'd tried cleaning the lens cover but couldn't clear whatever it was off it. The glass was cloudy somehow... anyway, I poked it out with a pen and I'm back to to clear [as they get] photos now.

Abelloid · 12-08-2010 3:17pm

grimbo wrote: »

For what it's worth

I noticed the same [blurry] problem with mine, but there wasn't the same problem with the phone back off. I'd tried cleaning the lens cover but couldn't clear whatever it was off it. The glass was cloudy somehow... anyway, I poked it out with a pen and I'm back to to clear [as they get] photos now.

I tried that, the battery cover can cause some blurriness but not as much as we are getting. Definitely an auto-focus issue as macro shots are near perfect.

bean · 12-08-2010 4:02pm

I found that my pics on my Desire were deteriorating after three months. I had a closer look at the clear plastic on the rear cover that protects the camera. Seems that there were small scratches there so i took a small amount non abrasive polish and buffed the clear plastic and removed the scratches, worked for me.

partyatmygaff · 12-08-2010 4:22pm

Got a Galaxy S today. Photos are pretty much equal when it comes to quality but focusing is a tiny bit better for all but Macro shots.

Abelloid · 12-08-2010 4:32pm

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Got a Galaxy S today. Photos are pretty much equal when it comes to quality but focusing is a tiny bit better for all but Macro shots.

Where did you get it? Online price is €179 but some have reported €99 in shop.. (bill pay)

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