NBA Offseason 2014

Dublin Red Devil · 25-07-2014 11:38am

I guess this puts the rumors of the Pacers trying to trade Roy to bed. Earlier this week. Roy, Larry and Kareem had dinner together and discussed how they would work together to help Roy improve his game.

Roy tweeted this picture

Dinner with @kaj33 and Larry was great. Loved hearing their stories. Learned so much and asked a lot of questions.

25-07-2014 11:44am

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

I guess this puts the rumors of the Pacers trying to trade Roy to bed. Earlier this week. Roy, Larry and Kareem had dinner together and discussed how they would work together to help Roy improve his game.

Roy tweeted this picture

Dinner with @kaj33 and Larry was great. Loved hearing their stories. Learned so much and asked a lot of questions.

do you read anyone else's posts?

Dublin Red Devil · 25-07-2014 12:18pm

Cali Angry Roller-skate wrote: »

do you read anyone else's posts?

Yeah nothing else is happening in the NBA right now. Apart from Lebron's wife sending cupcakes Akron Neighbours

NufcNavan · 25-07-2014 3:28pm

Jeff Goodman ✔ @GoodmanESPN

Chris Paul told ESPN that sitting out is a real possibility if Donald Sterling remains the owner at start of season.

To recap, Doc Rivers chose to coach in LA and Chris Paul signed a contract extension in LA while being owned by the widely known racist Donald Sterling. The racist Donald Sterling is then recorded making racist remarks and Paul/Rivers are threatening to sit out. Makes perfect sense.

When you're 29, it's always a great idea to willingly sit out games in the prime of your career........

Shooting yourself in the foot is not the best way to go about something like this. The league is doing all it can.

ButtersSuki · 25-07-2014 3:35pm

NufcNavan wrote: »

Jeff Goodman ✔ @GoodmanESPN

Chris Paul told ESPN that sitting out is a real possibility if Donald Sterling remains the owner at start of season.

To recap, Doc Rivers chose to coach in LA and Chris Paul signed a contract extension in LA while being owned by the widely known racist Donald Sterling. The racist Donald Sterling is then recorded making racist remarks and Paul/Rivers are threatening to sit out. Makes perfect sense.

When you're 29, it's always a great idea to willingly sit out games in the prime of your career........

Shooting yourself in the foot is not the best way to go about something like this. The league is doing all it can.

Yeah they're all pretty wise after the fact now, playing to the gallery if you ask me.

Dublin Red Devil · 25-07-2014 5:16pm

It puts the Clipper players in a a difficult position. What are they supposed to do? If they play for this guy, They will be seen to accept his ownership. If they refuse to play, They are letting the fans down and hurting their chances to compete.

Its a dammed if you do, dammed if you don't situation.

Paully D · 25-07-2014 6:32pm

Kobe's "I'd never play for him" comment beat all for me. The same man who would have signed for the Clippers if they hadn't traded Shaq in 2004. A time when Sterling's racist views were common knowledge.

buyer95 · 25-07-2014 8:30pm

In stitches:pac:

"Andy Dufresne - who crawled through a river of **** and came out clean on the other side."

Paully D · 25-07-2014 11:53pm

Melo:

"I want to win. I don't care about the money," Anthony told ESPN.com.

Jesus wept.

NufcNavan · 26-07-2014 12:30am

The Knicks made a fairly poor offer for Kevin Love too.

buyer95 · 26-07-2014 2:29am

Byron Scott has been offered the head coaching job with the Lakers. Kobe again getss his wish.

ButtersSuki · 26-07-2014 3:43pm

buyer95 wrote: »

Byron Scott has been offered the head coaching job with the Lakers. Kobe again getss his wish.

I'd like to see Byron Scott coaching as Swaggy P:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9RYaIhX4Qw

buyer95 · 26-07-2014 6:56pm

Kevin Love has pulled out of the USA's team for the World Cup. His reason? “because of my current status.” Fox Sports Ohio reports that Love has officially requested a trade to the Cleveland Cavaliers.

The plot thickens.

ButtersSuki · 26-07-2014 8:24pm

buyer95 wrote: »

Kevin Love has pulled out of the USA's team for the World Cup. His reason? “because of my current status.” Fox Sports Ohio reports that Love has officially requested a trade to the Cleveland Cavaliers.

The plot thickens.

Yup, afraid of getting injured in the worlds. Pity, I'd love to have seen him play.

Paully D · 26-07-2014 10:30pm

:pac::rolleyes:

NufcNavan · 27-07-2014 12:47am

Also PG is rumoured to be changing his number to '13'.

ButtersSuki · 27-07-2014 9:30am

NufcNavan wrote: »

Also PG is rumoured to be changing his number to '13'.

Is that the number of kids he hopes to have by strippers before he retires?

padraig_f · 27-07-2014 11:57am

Paully D wrote: »

:pac::rolleyes:

I'm generally for honesty, but even if you believe that, I don't think you should say it. Sends out the wrong message, 'I'm no taking responsibility, I'm blaming the coach'.

There seems to be a bit of a culture of that with the current Pacers team, blaming someone else, saw it with Hibbert, who was the worst performer coming out and saying 'there are some selfish guys here'.

I think that's probably why Lance got out, he got too much of the blame. Hibbert and George should've been glad Stephenson was doing stuff like blowing on Lebron. It distracted from their own bad performances. Hibbert had a catastrophe in the playoffs and I thought George was disappointing too. Remember the previous year in the playoffs, when the talk was that George approaching Lebron's level? Not so much of that this year.

We'll find out next season where the blame was. Maybe Stephenson wasn't blameless, but he got way too much criticism for what went wrong.

NufcNavan · 27-07-2014 9:44pm

You are generally right, but Jim O'Brien was a horrible coach. No getting around that. There's a reason why he didn't get a job in the NBA after it.

ButtersSuki · 28-07-2014 10:59am

Probably been mentioned already but LeJon is going back to the No. 23 jersey in Cleveland.

padraig_f · 28-07-2014 2:58pm

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Probably been mentioned already but LeJon is going back to the No. 23 jersey in Cleveland.

Only a number, but ugh, I hate this. Said when he changed to 6, it was out of respect for Jordan...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-pffU5Qbpg

So I guess that was all bull****.

There’s a cynical PR aspect to the whole Lebron thing that I hate. Bill Simmons and Chuck Klosterman were discussing his “Coming Home” letter on a recent podcast. There’s probably elements of truth in the letter, but there’s no way he’s going back to Cleveland if it’s not a great situation, with tons of young talent and the assets to lure Kevin Love. But the Lebron PR machine dresses it up as this sentimental "I’m Coming Home" thing (small print: it’s a 2-year contract with a 1-year opt-out, if things don’t to to plan).

He’s just so PR-conscious, it makes me nauseous.

Main difference between now and 4 years ago is his marketing team has got better. He's still jumping ship to a better situation.

buyer95 · 28-07-2014 8:02pm

Byron Scott is about to be given the head coaching gig with the lakers, Scott has said it is all but done, and he will be revealed as the new coach tomorrow.

leggo · 28-07-2014 9:17pm

padraig_f wrote: »

Only a number, but ugh, I hate this. Said when he changed to 6, it was out of respect for Jordan...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-pffU5Qbpg

So I guess that was all bull****.

There’s a cynical PR aspect to the whole Lebron thing that I hate. Bill Simmons and Chuck Klosterman were discussing his “Coming Home” letter on a recent podcast. There’s probably elements of truth in the letter, but there’s no way he’s going back to Cleveland if it’s not a great situation, with tons of young talent and the assets to lure Kevin Love. But the Lebron PR machine dresses it up as this sentimental "I’m Coming Home" thing (small print: it’s a 2-year contract with a 1-year opt-out, if things don’t to to plan).

He’s just so PR-conscious, it makes me nauseous.

Main difference between now and 4 years ago is his marketing team has got better. He's still jumping ship to a better situation.

Yes. This times a thousand. No way being a community leader matters as much to him if Cleveland don't have an infinitely better situation with him on-board than a Miami side who can't afford to keep a team who couldn't win the finals together.

1DRose · 28-07-2014 10:10pm

It's no coincidence that he left to go to Miami, who had retired Jordans jersey (even though he never played for them :rolleyes:). He probably knew already he couldn't wear the 23 there, so that was his little PPR move. Changing back to 23 or the Cavs just erases that statement. It's not like he is doing it out of fairness to Cavs fans from his 1st stint, they all burned those shirts in 2010!

For Forks Sake · 28-07-2014 10:43pm

1DRose wrote: »

It's no coincidence that he left to go to Miami, who had retired Jordans jersey (even though he never played for them :rolleyes:). He probably knew already he couldn't wear the 23 there, so that was his little PPR move. Changing back to 23 or the Cavs just erases that statement. It's not like he is doing it out of fairness to Cavs fans from his 1st stint, they all burned those shirts in 2010!

stuba · 28-07-2014 10:49pm

Rihanna has followed Embiid on Twitter... this guy is winning the internet.

The Phantom Jipper · 28-07-2014 10:55pm

leggo wrote: »

Yes. This times a thousand. No way being a community leader matters as much to him if Cleveland don't have an infinitely better situation with him on-board than a Miami side who can't afford to keep a team who couldn't win the finals together.

Ease off on the hyperbole a tad. Going to Cleveland is a gamble and they are not a demonstrably better team than Miami would have been this year imo, let alone infinitely better.

It seems like the guy can do no right. If he had changed his number he'd be accused of being a corporate shill / stabbing his former fans in the back etc by encouraging them to buy the new jersey. Have the last few years not been homage enough to MJ or is he supposed to not even utter the number again for the rest of his life? What's more noteworthy is the continuing deference and obsequiousness regarding MJ -god forbid anyone should have the temerity to use the same number.

stuba · 28-07-2014 11:05pm

Shelly Sterling wins the court case against Donald Sterling, allowing her to proceed with the sale of the team to Steve Ballmer for $2 billion.

padraig_f · 29-07-2014 1:18am

The Phantom Jipper wrote: »

Ease off on the hyperbole a tad. Going to Cleveland is a gamble and they are not a demonstrably better team than Miami would have been this year imo, let alone infinitely better.

It seems like the guy can do no right. If he had changed his number he'd be accused of being a corporate shill / stabbing his former fans in the back etc by encouraging them to buy the new jersey. Have the last few years not been homage enough to MJ or is he supposed to not even utter the number again for the rest of his life? What's more noteworthy is the continuing deference and obsequiousness regarding MJ -god forbid anyone should have the temerity to use the same number.

Don't mind people using MJ's number, it's just d-bags like Lebron I don't like using it. Anthony Davis uses it, that's fine.

ec18 · 29-07-2014 8:21am

padraig_f wrote: »

Don't mind people using MJ's number, it's just d-bags like Lebron I don't like using it. Anthony Davis uses it, that's fine.

In fairness i think the number thing is overblown. Lebron wearing jordans number isn't going to make much of a difference. If teams want to retire great players numbers then thats all well and good, but it the team hasn't retired a number then it's fair game really

Paully D · 29-07-2014 2:45pm

Great read on Kyle Korver from Zach Lowe at Grantland here.

ButtersSuki · 30-07-2014 10:42am

Paully D wrote: »

Great read on Kyle Korver from Zach Lowe at Grantland here.

Really great piece if you're into nerdy levels of detail and insight into the game (I am! :rolleyes::D). I've said it more than once on here - Chicago made a HUGE mistake in letting him go to ATL when they did.

BQQ · 30-07-2014 7:13pm

Stephen A. Smith has been suspended by ESPN for remarks relating to domestic violence.

http://www.tmz.com/2014/07/29/stephen-a-smith-suspended-espn-domestic-violence-ray-rice-michelle-beadle/

Seems to be a big problem in American pro sports.
I know a disturbing number of NBA players have been arrested for domestic violence anyway.

ButtersSuki · 30-07-2014 7:21pm

BQQ wrote: »

Stephen A. Smith has been suspended by ESPN for remarks relating to domestic violence.

http://www.tmz.com/2014/07/29/stephen-a-smith-suspended-espn-domestic-violence-ray-rice-michelle-beadle/

Seems to be a big problem in American pro sports.
I know a disturbing number of NBA players have been arrested for domestic violence anyway.

He's a clown at the best of times.

As for domestic violence, if you think the NBA boys are bad, check other US pro sports for the same offense - way worse.

BQQ · 30-07-2014 7:49pm

ButtersSuki wrote: »

He's a clown at the best of times.

As for domestic violence, if you think the NBA boys are bad, check other US pro sports for the same offense - way worse.

I suspected as much, but didn't want to say it without checking first.

Possible by-product of the steroids I would imagine.

Paully D · 31-07-2014 12:21am

Lots of media speculation re: Durant going to Washington the last few days, which has stemmed from LeBron "going home."

It may happen, but we're going to have to listen to that bollocks every night for the next 2 years, aren't we? :mad:

ButtersSuki · 31-07-2014 10:34am

Paully D wrote: »

Lots of media speculation re: Durant going to Washington the last few days, which has stemmed from LeBron "going home."

It may happen, but we're going to have to listen to that bollocks every night for the next 2 years, aren't we? :mad:

Yup, that is going to be tiresome to say the least.

ButtersSuki · 31-07-2014 6:42pm

If any of you are interested, there's an offer to see the World Cup quite cheaply here:

http://www.livebasketball.tv

Eurosport have the rights so if you have UPC you can watch it for free.

NufcNavan · 31-07-2014 7:31pm

ButtersSuki wrote: »

If any of you are interested, there's an offer to see the World Cup quite cheaply here:

http://www.livebasketball.tv

Eurosport have the rights so if you have UPC you can watch it for free.

Damn, not on for another month. I thought it was sooner.

buyer95 · 31-07-2014 9:07pm

ButtersSuki wrote: »

If any of you are interested, there's an offer to see the World Cup quite cheaply here:

http://www.livebasketball.tv

Eurosport have the rights so if you have UPC you can watch it for free.

Good spot, thankfully I have Eurosport so I'm sorted. Looking forward to this though. All indications at the moment are that Derrick Rose will play, looking forward to seeing how that goes, and hoping he recaptures his old form. The inevitable USA v Spain game will be very good this year too. With Love and Aldridge pulling out and Blake going down the US are looking weak in the frontcourt.

Spain on the other hand have the Gasols and Ibaka here so that will be very interesting. Davis I expect will be the starting centre, but after that America are looking a little light on bigs. Sure you have Cousins, but do you trust him to play big minutes against Spain if Davis gets in foul trouble? The guy has never played a big game in all his professional career. I love Boogie, and think he is hugely talented but the doubt about him remains. Farried is more pf an energy guy who grabs a tonne of rebounds, but I don't think his game would translate that well to the international game. After that maybe Drumonnd, but he can be ruled out as an option on sight as the guy shoots something like 30% from the line. International coaches would just keep sending him to the line.

Just a heads up as regards BT Sports, who have exclusive rights to live games on these shores. The Setanta package which includes BT Sport is 1 euro for the month of August. Obviously theres is no NBA for months, but how Setanta work is that after the month is up and you ring up to cancel you will be offered a deal to stay on, probably at a tenner a month. The 1 euro deal means you don't have to pay the connection fee of 15 euro, and if you were to call them up and try and subscribe next October when the season starts again you will pay that and 20 euro a month. They only offer the 10 euro deal to existing customers. They show 2 premier league games a week also if that interest any. So if you are considering getting BT for the NBA next year tomorrow might be a good day to subscribe.

ButtersSuki · 01-08-2014 9:19am

Manu out of the World Cup to allow a stress fracture to his right foot to heal.

Argentina's chances just took a major nosedive.

GoldFour4 · 01-08-2014 10:57am

Congratulations to butters for having the 1000th post of the thread. Good to see we're growing our number of regular posters. There's going to be a bit of lull between now and the season starting but hopefully we can keep getting better

01-08-2014 12:23pm

buyer95 wrote: »

Good spot, thankfully I have Eurosport so I'm sorted. Looking forward to this though. All indications at the moment are that Derrick Rose will play, looking forward to seeing how that goes, and hoping he recaptures his old form. The inevitable USA v Spain game will be very good this year too. With Love and Aldridge pulling out and Blake going down the US are looking weak in the frontcourt.

Spain on the other hand have the Gasols and Ibaka here so that will be very interesting. Davis I expect will be the starting centre, but after that America are looking a little light on bigs. Sure you have Cousins, but do you trust him to play big minutes against Spain if Davis gets in foul trouble? The guy has never played a big game in all his professional career. I love Boogie, and think he is hugely talented but the doubt about him remains. Farried is more pf an energy guy who grabs a tonne of rebounds, but I don't think his game would translate that well to the international game. After that maybe Drumonnd, but he can be ruled out as an option on sight as the guy shoots something like 30% from the line. International coaches would just keep sending him to the line.

Just a heads up as regards BT Sports, who have exclusive rights to live games on these shores. The Setanta package which includes BT Sport is 1 euro for the month of August. Obviously theres is no NBA for months, but how Setanta work is that after the month is up and you ring up to cancel you will be offered a deal to stay on, probably at a tenner a month. The 1 euro deal means you don't have to pay the connection fee of 15 euro, and if you were to call them up and try and subscribe next October when the season starts again you will pay that and 20 euro a month. They only offer the 10 euro deal to existing customers. They show 2 premier league games a week also if that interest any. So if you are considering getting BT for the NBA next year tomorrow might be a good day to subscribe.

my issue would be if davis goes out can anyone on that team stop marc gaol in particular he destroyed them in there last meeting and spain could have won if he didn't foul out (i believe he was 8 of 8 or something like that) . that is there one hope

ultimately though whatever advantage spain have on the inside the us have it ten times over once you get outside the gasols.

ec18 · 01-08-2014 1:37pm

Cali Angry Roller-skate wrote: »

my issue would be if davis goes out can anyone on that team stop marc gaol in particular he destroyed them in there last meeting and spain could have won if he didn't foul out (i believe he was 8 of 8 or something like that) . that is there one hope

ultimately though whatever advantage spain have on the inside the us have it ten times over once you get outside the gasols.

It'll be interesting the US is weak on inside presence across the whole league.....maybe they should have included noah in the team or least invited him to camp......I hope boogie makes the team and has a good tournament though.....his interview with Simmons was great......or at least I though it was

01-08-2014 1:44pm

ec18 wrote: »

It'll be interesting the US is weak on inside presence across the whole league.....maybe they should have included noah in the team or least invited him to camp......I hope boogie makes the team and has a good tournament though.....his interview with Simmons was great......or at least I though it was

i don't know i thought he was pretty bland/monotone and he didn't seem interesting at all to be honest. ya noah or griffin or anyone who can defend a 7 footer should have been brought with them offence is more or less irrelevant as they can destroy anyone outside but the big game is the spain game i think the roster should have been built around that game.

buyer95 · 01-08-2014 2:09pm

ec18 wrote: »

It'll be interesting the US is weak on inside presence across the whole league.....maybe they should have included noah in the team or least invited him to camp......I hope boogie makes the team and has a good tournament though.....his interview with Simmons was great......or at least I though it was

Noah plays for France, and played at eurobasket 11

NufcNavan · 01-08-2014 2:29pm

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Manu out of the World Cup to allow a stress fracture to his right foot to heal. Argentina's chances just took a major nosedive.

I see Luis Scola is considering not playing for Argentina either. Apparently there is some issue between the basketball federation and the players there.

ButtersSuki · 01-08-2014 4:29pm

The US are deliberately going small for the World Cup so it'll be a run and gun team designed to beat Spain (in particular) up and down the floor. It could backfire on them but they seem to have a hex on this Spanish team in big games. that said, Spain had their chances in both of the last 2 Olympic Finals and the playing at home factor will add some impetus to them. That and the Yanks will likely not have seen a crowd like this ever before (save for those who were in Turkey 4 years ago). As they have so many players without World's experience, this could be very close, but they still (USA) have to be favourites.

Have tickets for the semi final round in Madrid, but couldn't get Final tickets

Still undecided as to whether to go or not. I might just sell the semi tickets if I can't get at least 1 for the Final.

D2D · 01-08-2014 5:05pm

TWolves sign Mo Williams and to announce it, they put up a picture of him shooting a free throw with Cleveland with LeBron in the background on their Instagram a/c

ButtersSuki · 01-08-2014 5:13pm

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

TWolves sign Mo Williams and to announce it, they put up a picture of him shooting a free throw with Cleveland with LeBron in the background on their Instagram a/c

Lol.

NBA Offseason 2014

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