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list of exchanges with less than 24Mbs available

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,253 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    bealtine wrote: »
    No it was crowd sourced and there's no way to cross check it

    thats the best way to figure out what speeds i should be able to get though is it?

    rather than go by the line checker on sky


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,051 ✭✭✭bealtine


    batistuta9 wrote: »
    thats the best way to figure out what speeds i should be able to get though is it?

    rather than go by the line checker on sky

    according to sky and others everybody can get upto 24Mbs regardless of what speeds are actually available at the exchange. An awful lot of exchanges are only enabled for 8Mbs...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,253 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    bealtine wrote: »
    according to sky and others everybody can get upto 24Mbs regardless of what speeds are actually available at the exchange. An awful lot of exchanges are only enabled for 8Mbs...

    sky say my line is capable of 16.6 or something like that, is that a figure they've just taken out of the air?

    I've asked in the eircom talk to forum to see if they'll be able to tell me the max speed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,575 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    to be fair on sky, it gives me what my line actually is capable of getting i.e. 15 whereas vf and eircom say up to 24.


  • Registered Users Posts: 301 ✭✭seaniefr


    seaniefr wrote: »
    Castleconnell Co. Limerick 4km from Exchange 2.5Mb down .32 up, on 'up to 3mb package'. The sky website line checker is accurate at giving your max. download speed
    my advertised speed on the eircom site is 'UP TO 24 Megs'

    http://www.sky.com/quickbuy/ireland/build?showCheckAvailability
    You also need your eircom/whoever account number also called a UAN
    it tells me that i can get max 3.9Mb download:rolleyes:
    Checked it last week it now tells me that i can only get 2.9Mb MAX WTF:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,253 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    can you tell not your max speed from the line stats?


  • Registered Users Posts: 301 ✭✭seaniefr


    batistuta9 wrote: »
    can you tell not your max speed from the line stats?
    My downstream attenuation on the Eircom d1000 modem is 57Db. I am capped on a 3Mg package even though Eircom advertise 'up to 24 Mb' which i was told i by their telephone sales that i would have to pay an extra 10 euros per month
    it should give me around 4.0 Mb download max (57/13.81=4.2) which is what the sky line checker was saying not that its anything great as regards download speed right now but there are others worse off:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭tinner777


    ballymakerra, 1.8mb, 3 km from exchange


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,253 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    seaniefr wrote: »
    My downstream attenuation on the Eircom d1000 modem is 57Db. I am capped on a 3Mg package even though Eircom advertise 'up to 24 Mb' which i was told i by their telephone sales that i would have to pay an extra 10 euros per month
    it should give me around 4.0 Mb download max (57/13.81=4.2) which is what the sky line checker was saying not that its anything great as regards download speed right now but there are others worse off:rolleyes:

    where did you get the 13.81 from?

    is this graph correct do you know? the sky checker says i can get 16.6 but going by the graph i should get 22 or over if on the upto 24

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  • Registered Users Posts: 301 ✭✭seaniefr


    batistuta9 wrote: »
    where did you get the 13.81 from?

    is this graph correct do you know? the sky checker says i can get 16.6 but going by the graph i should get 22 or over if on the upto 24

    internode-adsl2-dist07.jpg
    from dslreports.com
    13.81 is the amount of attenuation generated per kilometre for twin twisted copper wire. Its usually not too far out.
    That graph would be fairly spot on i think. It would also depend on the cable route to your house from the exchange.


  • Registered Users Posts: 301 ✭✭seaniefr


    tinner777 wrote: »
    ballymakerra, 1.8mb, 3 km from exchange

    I was in a similar situation until I rang Eircom to discover that my 3meg package was capped at 2 meg so I asked them to lift the cap and my download went from a sh***y 1.7 megs to 2.6megs it's worth giving them a ring!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,253 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    seaniefr wrote: »
    from dslreports.com
    13.81 is the amount of attenuation generated per kilometre for twin twisted copper wire. Its usually not too far out.
    That graph would be fairly spot on i think. It would also depend on the cable route to your house from the exchange.

    if you're getting 57 would that not mean you're about 4km from the exchange going by the graph?
    yet you only divided by 13.81 or am i getting something wrong there


  • Registered Users Posts: 301 ✭✭seaniefr


    batistuta9 wrote: »
    if you're getting 57 would that not mean you're about 4km from the exchange going by the graph?
    yet you only divided by 13.81 or am i getting something wrong there
    Its all on dslreports.com Look it up!
    13.81 is an average given the diameter of copper phone wire used from the sub to a house.
    Yes i am 4Km from the exchange.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    Middle of nowhere, 1mb!


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,073 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Based on the above and my previously quoted line stats , I should be able to get ~9MB but due to the shocking back-haul from Eircom I can get a maximum of 3Mb (on a good day)!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,051 ✭✭✭bealtine


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Based on the above and my previously quoted line stats , I should be able to get ~9MB but due to the shocking back-haul from Eircom I can get a maximum of 3Mb (on a good day)!!

    and which exchange is that please?


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,073 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    bealtine wrote: »
    and which exchange is that please?

    Quin Exchange - Clare.


    Broadband Link Downstream Upstream
    Connection Speed 3072 kbps 384 kbps
    Line Attenuation 39.5 dB 23.5 dB
    Noise Margin 17.8 dB 18.18 dB


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 346 ✭✭trekkypj


    There's still some exchanges that were on that infamous list of 300 or so exchanges to be upgraded by Eircom to DSL which got forgotten about or abandoned.

    Coon, Co. Kilkenny is (or was) our local exchange. It has not been upgraded despite eircom promises and the fact it was on the list. If not for the 3 mobile phone mast erected under the (sic) Rural Broadband Scheme we would still be on dialup.

    No way they will bother now with the efibre project ongoing.

    So dial-up speed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    I've got the luck of being 2.4km away from the ONLY exchange in all of co. Dublin to not be DSL enabled:

    Oldtown, Co. Dublin...

    :pac:


    If it were 24mb enabled, I'd be able to get round the 14mb mark, according to that graph above :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,040 ✭✭✭yuloni


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 824 ✭✭✭pbarr


    Annagry Co Donegal 8Mb max.


  • Registered Users Posts: 520 ✭✭✭lankz92


    dont know the exchange but 3 miles out the nobber road from kingscourt co.cavan

    rang eircom and was told my line can handle 20meg but the exchange hasnt been upgraded so i get 7meg
    i asked "realisticly" what will i get and she said hopefully the 7meg since the line can take 20meg
    but they wanted to put me on an old package at €60 a month for 7meg

    went to vodafone and they said itd likely be the same (i knew that anyway from the line) but its €32 a month and unlimited

    should have it in a week or 2 so ill update with the speeds

    iv no other option and am currently useing mobile broadband

    id be happy with in or around 3 meg and a half decent ping


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    lankz92 wrote: »
    dont know the exchange but 3 miles out the nobber road from kingscourt co.cavan

    rang eircom and was told my line can handle 20meg but the exchange hasnt been upgraded so i get 7meg
    i asked "realisticly" what will i get and she said hopefully the 7meg since the line can take 20meg
    but they wanted to put me on an old package at €60 a month for 7meg

    went to vodafone and they said itd likely be the same (i knew that anyway from the line) but its €32 a month and unlimited

    should have it in a week or 2 so ill update with the speeds

    iv no other option and am currently useing mobile broadband

    id be happy with in or around 3 meg and a half decent ping

    You'll be fine off peak but chances are performance will suck at peak times. The problem with these old exchanges is that the backhaul isnt there, so they congest to hell. If the sales team can see its a 20Mb line that means there's ADSL2+ kit in there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭zt-OctaviaN


    Ballyvarry, Co. Mayo

    Its an 8Mb exchange

    Im however 4.6Km as the crow flies and syncing at 4Mb! :eek: borderline SNR of 6.2 anything below 5.8 I can get drops.

    But it doesnt :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 301 ✭✭seaniefr


    Ballyvarry, Co. Mayo

    Its an 8Mb exchange

    Im however 4.6Km as the crow flies and syncing at 4Mb! :eek: borderline SNR of 6.2 anything below 5.8 I can get drops.

    But it doesnt :D
    Lucky you! your phone lines are not antiques & propping up tree branches like around my area then:P


  • Registered Users Posts: 297 ✭✭maclek


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    The Quin exchange is pretty close. :) Stupid rubbish microwave backhaul.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,486 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    1dB/3dB line attenuation !!! I don't think I've ever seen anything quite that low ... do you live inside the exchange itself?


  • Registered Users Posts: 946 ✭✭✭oppiuy


    Ive heard staff are going on strike on friday so if you have any issues call before then

    Looking for a pay rise i hear


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    It's quite likely the exchange is just a cabinet itself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭Shane-KornSpace


    Broadband through the phoneline is hitting a max speed of 3mb/s in:

    Fairgreen, Portlaoise


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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,073 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    After having an Eircom engineer come to my house to resolve a line fault I found out some information about my exchange.

    The exchange (Quin in Clare) currently has the an altogether fantastic 8Mb of backhaul available!! - Giving me a max of 2Mb during the day , dropping to 0.2Mb/0.3Mb in the evenings.

    However , the piece of positive news is that Eircom are currently upgrading the backhaul to Fibre , running a new connection to the Dromoland exchange which is about 5km away.

    I don't think that they have any plans to upgrade the actual exchange itself , but the improved backhaul should mean that I will be able to get a faster speed more consistently once this work is complete...

    Here's hoping


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭Mr Velo


    Corrandulla Exchange, Co. Galway

    ADSL1 - 3MB max on my line.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 585 ✭✭✭Portlawslim


    Portlaw
    Co.Waterford
    446.46 metres from the exchange
    LLU Exchange :n
    Not in the VDSL program

    Downstream Rate: 7168 Kbps
    Upstream Rate: 384 Kbps


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭hare05


    Parts of Lucan, Co Dublin. Not sure what specific exchange I'm on but max is 16.6 as tested by Sky. UPC is nonexistent here also, although the neighbours seem to have it :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭MyPeopleDrankTheSoup


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    After having an Eircom engineer come to my house to resolve a line fault I found out some information about my exchange.

    The exchange (Quin in Clare) currently has the an altogether fantastic 8Mb of backhaul available!! - Giving me a max of 2Mb during the day , dropping to 0.2Mb/0.3Mb in the evenings.

    However , the piece of positive news is that Eircom are currently upgrading the backhaul to Fibre , running a new connection to the Dromoland exchange which is about 5km away.

    I don't think that they have any plans to upgrade the actual exchange itself , but the improved backhaul should mean that I will be able to get a faster speed more consistently once this work is complete...

    Here's hoping

    my parents and 2 sisters live out there. i always suspected as much. it's pretty much unusable between the 3 houses. though I was talking to some KN network guys a few months back who said they're upgrading Quin next, thought they could have just talking sh-ite.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 478 ✭✭thenashlegend


    Bekan Station, Claremorris, Mayo. Getting 7MB, although I was informed today that the latest line test shows it's capable of 10MB. Of course they want 68 quid a month for it + phone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭deadl0ck


    Moyvore exchange, Westmeath.
    I'm on 7MB package - but only getting 5 max.

    It's not even ADSL2 so it's congested in the evenings .

    I work from home a lot and pay 65 per month for this with unlimited anytime calls - I'm kinda scared to move to another provider (as the price would be better) as I'm afraid the service would be even worse....

    Really annoying thing is that the fibre backbone goes on into the exchange (It's on the network map which I can find the link for now) as we are between Mullingar and Athlone , but the equipment is all old in the exchange - I'd be happy with uncongested BB TBH !


  • Registered Users Posts: 29 lawlerp


    Castleblakeney 1.01Mb down .31 up
    Router info - Speed 7168/384 (kbps) Line Attenuation 36/21 dB
    Max line speed according to the eircom line-speed checker is 10Mb and eircom also say the exchange is not NGB enabled


  • Registered Users Posts: 237 ✭✭MichealKenny


    KCL (STD: 090)

    ADSL1, upto 8 mbps.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    After having an Eircom engineer come to my house to resolve a line fault I found out some information about my exchange.

    The exchange (Quin in Clare) currently has the an altogether fantastic 8Mb of backhaul available!! - Giving me a max of 2Mb during the day , dropping to 0.2Mb/0.3Mb in the evenings.

    However , the piece of positive news is that Eircom are currently upgrading the backhaul to Fibre , running a new connection to the Dromoland exchange which is about 5km away.

    I don't think that they have any plans to upgrade the actual exchange itself , but the improved backhaul should mean that I will be able to get a faster speed more consistently once this work is complete...

    Here's hoping

    Where is the Dromoland exchange?

    Looking at the fibre connected exchanges on an Eircom map I recall that both Newmarket and Sixmilbridge have fibre backhauls, but I don't recall any Dromoland exchange.

    Got any further details?


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,073 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Where is the Dromoland exchange?

    Looking at the fibre connected exchanges on an Eircom map I recall that both Newmarket and Sixmilbridge have fibre backhauls, but I don't recall any Dromoland exchange.

    Got any further details?

    Not specifics - I assumed at the time that he was talking about a cabinet somewhere near the motorway interchange at the Clare Inn (now Inn at Dromoland) perhaps in terms of making a fibre connection between Shannon/Newmarket and Clarecastle/Ennis.

    I did recently find a map indicating that Quin was on a list for eFibre expansion in late 2015 , but I can't find it now , think it was somewhere on the Eircom site.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Not specifics - I assumed at the time that he was talking about a cabinet somewhere near the motorway interchange at the Clare Inn (now Inn at Dromoland) perhaps in terms of making a fibre connection between Shannon/Newmarket and Clarecastle/Ennis.

    I did recently find a map indicating that Quin was on a list for eFibre expansion in late 2015 , but I can't find it now , think it was somewhere on the Eircom site.

    Ah! Yes that makes sense ..... not an 'exchange' in the traditional sense but a cab for joining fibre cables maybe. I guess I would call it a fibre node or something else equally vague :)

    Yes the Newmarket exchange is connected to fibre which is probably in that area too ..... only going by the way it is drawn on the Eircom map.
    So maybe what was in mind was an extra connection from that same point in the main cable, going to Quin.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 mrmcq2u


    Sixmilebridge exchange is ADSL1, Vodafone claim it is "enhanced".
    When I demanded a straight answer they confirmed the exchange was ADSL1.

    Was a little annoyed as when I asked the first representative he said that it was an enhanced exchange and that it only makes sense that they upgraded to enhanced prior to considering an upgrade to vdsl.

    This implied that enhanced meant ADSL2 as he said that in response to my question of whether the exchange was ADSL2 or not, on further investigation of my parents SNR and line attenuation I came to the conclusion that people were being sneaky about answering questions.

    Exchange will be upgraded by Eircom to vdsl2 hopefully this month if its not postponed again, slightly annoyed at the time wasted troubleshooting the connection at my parents house.

    I have worked in tech support for a company which leased Eircoms infrastructure for fixed line broadband.
    I find it to be a shame that they are allowed to charge people in rural locations full price for connections which are not in any way attainable nor will be in any way attainable in the near future.

    Often times you hear the argument that rural areas aren't densely populated enough to make a return on investment and that metropolitan areas would be subsidizing the rollout of infrastructure but the reality is that its rural customers who have been subsidizing the development of infrastructure in urban areas.

    They are paying the same price and line rental for infrastructure which hasn't been upgraded in 30 years(telephone poles) and 15 years (dslam equipment), wheres the money going. We have the highest prices in Europe for this. It's a joke.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,073 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    mrmcq2u wrote: »
    Sixmilebridge exchange is ADSL1, Vodafone claim it is "enhanced".
    When I demanded a straight answer they confirmed the exchange was ADSL1.

    They are paying the same price and line rental for infrastructure which hasn't been upgraded in 30 years(telephone poles) and 15 years (dslam equipment), wheres the money going. We have the highest prices in Europe for this. It's a joke.

    Absolutely - Many threads here on this exact topic..

    Rural users paying significantly more per MB than anyone else , so to my mind the cost per user is probably balanced out to a large extent.

    For anyone on an "Up to 24Mb/s" exchange or worse you are paying the same amount regardless of speed/stability of connection.

    For example, I'm paying for a 3Mb line (maximum speed EVER achieved is 2.58Mb/s (at 2am) , typically getting way less than 1Mb/s during normal hours) yet my father pays the same and gets 22/23Mb speed fairly consistently.

    Not asking for or expecting FTTH or anything like that , but I think that a consistent, reliable 20Mb/s to 25Mb/s speed is a more than reasonable expectation for everyone at this point in time...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Absolutely - Many threads here on this exact topic..

    Rural users paying significantly more per MB than anyone else , so to my mind the cost per user is probably balanced out to a large extent.

    For anyone on an "Up to 24Mb/s" exchange or worse you are paying the same amount regardless of speed/stability of connection.

    For example, I'm paying for a 3Mb line (maximum speed EVER achieved is 2.58Mb/s (at 2am) , typically getting way less than 1Mb/s during normal hours) yet my father pays the same and gets 22/23Mb speed fairly consistently.

    Not asking for or expecting FTTH or anything like that , but I think that a consistent, reliable 20Mb/s to 25Mb/s speed is a more than reasonable expectation for everyone at this point in time...

    What distance are you from the exchange? If it gets upgraded you'll get the max your line can take, but if you're 5km away that will be 3mb.


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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,073 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    ED E wrote: »
    What distance are you from the exchange? If it gets upgraded you'll get the max your line can take, but if you're 5km away that will be 3mb.

    According to my line stats , at present my line would be able to support ~8Mb/s with no other changes , but due to the exchange being ADSL1 and only have 8Mb/s of backhaul I get much much worse than that...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    I wasn't aware that KN did telephone installs for Eircom until the other day, when I saw two or three KN vans not far from Quin installing telephone wiring for a house ..... guys were dipping into small manholes at the side of the road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    I wasn't aware that KN did telephone installs for Eircom until the other day, when I saw two or three KN vans not far from Quin installing telephone wiring for a house ..... guys were dipping into small manholes at the side of the road.

    They do in a few places, but its mostly just fibre installs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 160 ✭✭sparky63


    KN are doing all the installations both new lines and fibre upgrades in nearly all areas of Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,031 ✭✭✭gipi


    Here in the "bustling metropolis" of Drogheda, getting less than 1Mb speeds on ADSL. My number isn't fibre-enabled according to eircom's site.

    Was onto vodafone customer service recently, the guy there told me I'm 10km from the exchange so am lucky to get anything at all and he suggested that I should never have been offered bb in the first place!! I'm not convinced about the distance (knowing where the main exchanges are in the town).


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