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Rangers FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2012/2013

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  • #4802
    lubo_moravcik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭lubo_moravcik


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    If they were Whyte's guys do you think the court would have approved it ?

    Some Rangers fans also claim that they're in league with Whyte, but I can't see it.

    Here we have one of Britain's biggest firms, handling a case where the entire Scottish (and possibly British) media and legal people are watching and they would risk jail time to help Whyte ?
    Are Rangers the big firm you're talking about?


  • #4803
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    I was talking about Duff & Phelps, but if you insist :p


  • #4804
    lubo_moravcik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭lubo_moravcik


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    I was talking about Duff & Phelps, but if you insist :p
    :) Was just wondering, because if you meant Rangers then I was just going to say it never stopped them before, it was almost as if there never would be any consequences.
    What companies were D&P assigned to before do you know, how did they play out?


  • #4805
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    You mean as administrators ?
    Not a clue actually.

    I just know that they are involved in a huge amount of stuff, ranging from media, real estate, energy and mining, even defense contracts etc.


  • #4806
    lubo_moravcik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭lubo_moravcik


    2py27ms.jpg


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  • #4807
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Who wrote that **** ?

    What a moron.


  • #4808
    A Dub in Glasgo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,283 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    http://blogs.dailyrecord.co.uk/tamcowan/


  • #4809
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Ah, that makes sense then ;)


  • #4810
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Remember the outcry over smashed toilets at Celtic Park, by Rangers fans ?

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    At an U17 game ffs.


  • #4811
    Dempsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Didnt know that seats could spontaneously combust


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  • #4812
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Didn't know ceilings could spontaneously fall down ;)


  • #4813
    bobbysands81
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,213 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    Remember the outcry over smashed toilets at Celtic Park, by Rangers fans ?

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    At an U17 game ffs.

    An insurance job???


  • #4814
    Coillte_Bhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    Remember the outcry over smashed toilets at Celtic Park, by Rangers fans ?

    28mplxx.jpg

    2v81y7a.jpg



    At an U17 game ffs.

    oh get over it, there are scumbag idiots in both sets of fans, happens regularly does it not? When i saw the photo i just knew it would have been you posting it. pathetic.


  • #4815
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »
    oh get over it, there are scumbag idiots in both sets of fans, happens regularly does it not? When i saw the photo i just knew it would have been you posting it. pathetic.

    Wait a wee minute here your one of the more moderate guys on here so this surprises me because we both know if this had been the other way round someone would have taken great delight in posting it and it would have been oh those big bad Rangers fans from a few on here. So its been posted and highlighted we can all move on without the comments. To be fair I would probably have posted them. Yes both sides have scumbags but some don't want to see that


  • #4816
    bobbysands81
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,213 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    What sort of idiot intentionally sets seats on fire inside a stadium?


  • #4817
    Madam
    Registered Users Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭Madam


    bobbysands81 wrote: »
    What sort of idiot intentionally sets seats on fire inside a stadium?

    They didn't - seems a flare got caught under the seat(at least according to a neighbour who was at the game)!


  • #4818
    Coillte_Bhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    Wait a wee minute here your one of the more moderate guys on here so this surprises me because we both know if this had been the other way round someone would have taken great delight in posting it and it would have been oh those big bad Rangers fans from a few on here. So its been posted and highlighted we can all move on without the comments. To be fair I would probably have posted them. Yes both sides have scumbags but some don't want to see that

    And if it was the other way round id have said the same thing to whoever posted it. I havent been afraid to have a go at celtic fans here if i think they are wrong so please, realx


  • #4819
    Dempsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    bobbysands81 wrote: »
    What sort of idiot intentionally sets seats on fire inside a stadium?

    I'd imagine its very difficult since the seat should be made from a fire retardant material


  • #4820
    blahfckingblah
    Registered Users Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭blahfckingblah


    As i said at the time some rangers fans wrecked toilets in parkhead (or was it seats) that these idiots are all too common on every side and deserve to be prosecuted.

    The title of that Healy article is hilarious by the way, still wouldnt read that muck if i was paid.


  • #4821
    Eirebear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    bobbysands81 wrote: »
    What sort of idiot intentionally sets seats on fire inside a stadium?
    Madam wrote: »
    They didn't - seems a flare got caught under the seat(at least according to a neighbour who was at the game)!

    yeah, i think the game yesterday was used as a bit of a show of strength by the GB and the UB.
    If nothing else, for me, this highlights the dangers of Flares and other such materials at games.

    Imagine this had happened at an SPL game between the clubs with the stadium packed to the rafters, and more flammable materials such as flags and banners around?


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  • #4822
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Madam wrote: »
    They didn't - seems a flare got caught under the seat(at least according to a neighbour who was at the game)!

    I will say that they are still idiots who were breaking the law anyone who takes Flares to a game should be jailed
    That goes for both sides of the divide


  • #4823
    the realpigiron
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭the realpigiron


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    I will say that they are still idiots who were breaking the law anyone who takes Flares to a game should be jailed
    That goes for both sides of the divide

    You're right anyone who breaks the law should be jailed, or fined in court, depending on the severity of their crimes. A few Rangers administrators should be seeing jail time that's for certain, given the tax laws they have repeatedly broken.

    Yes let's see a bit of justice; Rangers administrators jailed and Rangers FC wound up and liquidated. It would be for the best for all concerned with the game in Scotland I reckon. Also it would give genuine Rangers people a newco and club to build, and a chance to start with a clean slate and no baggage.


  • #4824
    Eirebear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    the realpigiron wrote: »
    You're right anyone who breaks the law should be jailed, or fined in court, depending on the severity of their crimes. A few Rangers administrators should be seeing jail time that's for certain, given the tax laws they have repeatedly broken.

    Yes let's see a bit of justice; Rangers administrators jailed and Rangers FC wound up and liquidated. It would be for the best for all concerned with the game in Scotland I reckon. Also it would give genuine Rangers people a newco and club to build, and a chance to start with a clean slate and no baggage.

    Obsessed much?

    I'm not entirely sure what this has to do with setting fire to seats tbh.


  • #4825
    the realpigiron
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭the realpigiron


    Eirebear wrote: »
    Obsessed much?

    I'm not entirely sure what this has to do with setting fire to seats tbh.

    Oh, just making the point in an ideal world, the ladder of the law should have no top and no bottom. If people are found guilty of setting fire to seats they should face charges, same as tax dodging administrators should also face the rigours of the law.


  • #4826
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Tax dodging administrators ?

    Is this another 'exclusive' from Alex Thomson ? :pac:


  • #4827
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    the realpigiron wrote: »
    Oh, just making the point in an ideal world, the ladder of the law should have no top and no bottom. If people are found guilty of setting fire to seats they should face charges, same as tax dodging administrators should also face the rigours of the law.

    Really what a sad life you must lead to get from flares to Tax dodging admin in one jump is nothing short of spectacular :confused:


  • #4828
    the realpigiron
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭the realpigiron


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    Really what a sad life you must lead to get from flares to Tax dodging admin in one jump is nothing short of spectacular :confused:

    Well in both cases the law is being broken, although we'd all have our views on which is the more serious misdemeanour. I'm sure you'd be in favour of justice being seen to be done in both cases.


  • #4829
    Coillte_Bhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    the realpigiron wrote: »
    Well in both cases the law is being broken, although we'd all have our views on which is the more serious misdemeanour. I'm sure you'd be in favour of justice being seen to be done in both cases.

    Isnt there a thread devoted to the administration issue/ Are you going to bring it up at every bloody opportunity and try to derail every other thread relating to scottish football?


  • #4830
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    the realpigiron wrote: »
    Well in both cases the law is being broken, although we'd all have our views on which is the more serious misdemeanour. I'm sure you'd be in favour of justice being seen to be done in both cases.[/QUOTE

    If Rangers are found guilty they will no doubt be punished but this is being discussed in the admin thread so lets leave that there.

    Now the flares its luck this did not happen in a packed stadium or we could easily have had another Bradford on our hands but hey thats obviously not important to you. Its pretty clear you don't read post properly or you would see that its been made clear that if it had been on the other foot feelings would be the same. But don't let any of that bother you.


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  • #4831
    the realpigiron
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭the realpigiron


    Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »
    Isnt there a thread devoted to the administration issue/ Are you going to bring it up at every bloody opportunity and try to derail every other thread relating to scottish football?

    Who appointed you judge and jury?


  • #4832
    Dempsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    Now the flares its luck this did not happen in a packed stadium or we could easily have had another Bradford on our hands but hey thats obviously not important to you. Its pretty clear you don't read post properly or you would see that its been made clear that if it had been on the other foot feelings would be the same. But don't let any of that bother you.

    Thats just completely sensationalist tbh.


  • #4833
    the realpigiron
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭the realpigiron


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    If Rangers are found guilty they will no doubt be punished but this is being discussed in the admin thread so lets leave that there.
    Yeah, I suppose you're right there is a whole thread devoted to the Rangers admin issue, it is a bigger issue in my view after all.
    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    Now the flares its luck this did not happen in a packed stadium or we could easily have had another Bradford on our hands but hey thats obviously not important to you. Its pretty clear you don't read post properly or you would see that its been made clear that if it had been on the other foot feelings would be the same. But don't let any of that bother you.

    If you had been reading my posts properly; you will see that I said if people started a fire due to flares, well then they should be reprimanded and charged with that offense.


  • #4834
    Coillte_Bhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    the realpigiron wrote: »
    Who appointed you judge and jury?

    Nobody obviously, just giving my opinion. Wow, imagine doing such a thing on an internet forum? Well, i never.


  • #4835
    the realpigiron
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭the realpigiron


    Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »
    Nobody obviously, just giving my opinion. Wow, imagine doing such a thing on an internet forum? Well, i never.

    Yeah, well that's all I'm doing buddy.


  • #4836
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Dempsey wrote: »
    Thats just completely sensationalist tbh.

    Is it I think not. Lets see Plastic seats and flares that burn at very high temperatures Nah no chance of an accident happening even if it was not a huge fire it could very easily set off a panic and if you can't see that then thats your problem


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  • #4837
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    the realpigiron wrote: »
    Yeah, I suppose you're right there is a whole thread devoted to the Rangers admin issue, it is a bigger issue in my view after all.
    It may very well be but the topic was the flares that cause a fire and damage at Ibrox which you seem unable to discuss because of your obsession which is being discussed in another thread ;)


  • #4838
    Dempsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    Is it I think not. Lets see Plastic seats and flares that burn at very high temperatures Nah no chance of an accident happening even if it was not a huge fire it could very easily set off a panic and if you can't see that then thats your problem

    Plastic seats with fire retardant additives vs. a wooden stand & a wooden roof that also had tarp & asphalt to help it burn. I wont even bother explaining the other fire safety measures in place that werent in Bradford.

    You'd want more than a flare to cause another Bradford at a modern stadium so stop bull****ting.


  • #4839
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Dempsey wrote: »
    Plastic seats with fire retardant additives vs. a wooden stand & a wooden roof that also had tarp & asphalt to help it burn. I wont even bother explaining the other fire safety measures in place that werent in Bradford.

    You'd want more than a flare to cause another Bradford at a modern stadium so stop bull****ting.

    Fire retardant yes to temperatures of something in the area 1600 centigrade I doubt it. Do you really believe that even with safety measures in place a panic couldn't start then you are dreaming. Safety features do not account for human nature it only takes one person to panic and you have a disaster so get off your high horse and stop being an arsehole


  • #4840
    A Dub in Glasgo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,283 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    > Physics / Chemistry board<


  • #4841
    Dempsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    Fire retardant yes to temperatures of something in the area 1600 centigrade I doubt it. Do you really believe that even with safety measures in place a panic couldn't start then you are dreaming. Safety features do not account for human nature it only takes one person to panic and you have a disaster so get off your high horse and stop being an arsehole

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    What would be burning at 1600'C?! Without a heat source, any seat would stop burning in short period of time, 5 seconds - 1 minute, thats part of the design. Even in that picture above, the seats either side have minimal fire damage.

    Compared to this

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLjquReTHcU


    :rolleyes:


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  • #4842
    Eirebear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    I think youre taking "Another Bradford" slightly too literal Dempsey. No one is saying the actual stadium is going to burn down.

    If you can't see the dangers of something that burns so hot that it send a fire retardant plastic seat up in flames, in a situation where you have thousands of people in a small space, with less than fire retardant flags, scarves and banners then i really think youre fooling yourself.
    That seat catches fire, large banner catches fire, people panic, rush towards the exits, onto the pitch ensues, less able folk and children get caught up.
    Is it really that hard to understand what BBE is getting at?

    or are you just being pedantic with regards to the seats for the sake of argument?


  • #4843
    Dempsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Eirebear wrote: »
    I think youre taking "Another Bradford" slightly too literal Dempsey. No one is saying the actual stadium is going to burn down.

    If you can't see the dangers of something that burns so hot that it send a fire retardant plastic seat up in flames, in a situation where you have thousands of people in a small space, with less than fire retardant flags, scarves and banners then i really think youre fooling yourself.
    That seat catches fire, large banner catches fire, people panic, rush towards the exits, onto the pitch ensues, less able folk and children get caught up.
    Is it really that hard to understand what BBE is getting at?

    or are you just being pedantic with regards to the seats for the sake of argument?

    That would be the definition of 'another Bradford' though :rolleyes:

    Is everything dipped in petrol in the scenario that you've dreamt up in your head? No doubt its a health and safety risk but he's being sensationalist and your not far off it either. How many times has the scenario you described happened in countries where flares are common?


  • #4844
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Dempsey wrote: »
    That would be the definition of 'another Bradford' though :rolleyes:

    Is everything dipped in petrol in the scenario that you've dreamt up in your head? No doubt its a health and safety risk but he's being sensationalist and your not far off it either. How many times has the scenario you described happened in countries where flares are common?

    I really hope you never find yourself in a situation where a panic reaction sets in thats my last word.


  • #4845
    lubo_moravcik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭lubo_moravcik


    Supposedly there's a fire at Tannadice tonight. The stadium was emptied, players, fans, everyone tossed out til they got it under control. Everyone let back in now, all fans put in a different stand though.
    Game is Dundee United v QOS in Youth Cup Semi Final


  • #4846
    lubo_moravcik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭lubo_moravcik


    I know that last post has absolutely feck all to do with the rangers, but given the way the conversation was going up there............


  • #4847
    the realpigiron
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭the realpigiron


    lubo_moravcik wrote: »
    I know that last post has absolutely feck all to do with the rangers, but given the way the conversation was going up there............

    It's about as relevant to the thread as the Rangers administration/possible liquidation issue I've been told:D.


  • #4848
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,277 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    https://twitter.com/#!/charleslavery/status/192910089324216321/photo/1

    Anything to this or is it just a made up pic? I would assume made up as they'd surely push through a sale before liquidation?


  • #4849
    RoryMac
    Registered Users Posts: 5,320 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    Mitch Connor wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/#!/charleslavery/status/192910089324216321/photo/1

    Anything to this or is it just a made up pic? I would assume made up as they'd surely push through a sale before liquidation?

    Not made up but not Rangers giving notice of liquidation either, it seemingly refers to the Administrators report a few weeks back.


  • #4850
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Mitch Connor wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/#!/charleslavery/status/192910089324216321/photo/1

    Anything to this or is it just a made up pic? I would assume made up as they'd surely push through a sale before liquidation?

    Page seems to have been deleted someone trying to take the piss by the looks of it


  • #4851
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    0-2 up at Tynecastle, better than I expected given that Hearts would be on a high.

    McCabe really is a great player it seems, hope we keep him.

    edit: Black really is a dirty ****, I wouldn't feel sorry at all if someone ended his career.


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