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Fantasy Sports Arena 2015 Feedback thread **Mod warning post 121**
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28-12-2014 8:51am#1Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,334 CMod ✭✭✭✭Join Date:Posts: 16362
Thread will be unlocked on 2nd of Jan; preliminary duration until 16th of Jan but may run longer if it's still active at that point.
This thread is to give feedback on the Fantasy Sports Arena forum; any feedback is welcome but note the word is feedback, not criticism. This means you can complain about something and give examples to posts of said complaint but simply stating that FPJ sux or Newbies should not be allowed to post is not on as it does not help anyone. Anything brought up will be reviewed but is not in any way guaranteed to be implemented.
If you think nothing needs to be changed that's perfectly fine; that's also feedback
Currently the following points have been brought up as discussion points; you're not limited to these points only. The original source of these points can be found in this thread.- Tidy up the amount of threads to consolidate discussion - please include suggested grouping(s)
- Introduce set times before certain game week threads can be created
- Ban the "oh no I've made a terrible mistake transferring in Play A instead of Player B"
- Creating a sticky for FAQ & terminology for new players
- Creating sub forums for non FPL leagues / sports or alternatively implement a tag system
Please note ALL feedback is welcome; this means this thread will be heavily modded yet will also allow breaches of forum policy including discussion of mod decisions on thread with in reason; if you're not sure if it may be going to far please PM me or FutureGuy first for a green light.
Once the thread is deemed to have wound up I'll summarize all the feedback and discuss with FutureGuy on what, if any, changes to be implemented and how. Once again there are no promises that any suggested changes will be implemented but they will be reviewed.
//MOD
Please read post 121 before posting; failure to read the post is not an excuse.
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First and foremost, it has to be said the forum is well run and enjoyable to read, post and follow. A feedback thread is a good idea as well just to get the users thoughts out in the open.
Considering this we shouldn’t be looking to implement lots of hard and fast rules imo. If its broke don’t fix it, and the forum certainly isn’t broken. A lot of forums on Boards.ie have been destroyed by too many rules and it simply takes the fun out of things. This is supposed to be a game and the forum should be relaxed rules wise
Regarding threads. I don’t believe there are too many threads. There is the standard General thread, RMT thread and then the individual GW capt, transfers and matchday threads. A lot of FSA league threads granted, but that should be encouraged as its good community stuff. I also don’t have any issue with the timing of a thread being created. What difference does it make if a matchday thread is started at 5 past midnight or 5 past 9 in the morning, likewise with the transfers thread being started as soon as the new deadline has passed. The only stipulation around timing of threads being started should be that its on the matchday (for match day threads) or past the deadline (for transfers threads).
I would like to suggest that users on the forum add a simple indication to their sig to identify their FPL/UFPL team. It would be useful to be able to check others teams and performance to evaluate advice given. A FPL button exists on FISO for this, but would probably be too much to ask the site developers on Boards.ie to implement one but just a simple F:team ID number would work well. This doesn’t need to be mandatory but should be encouraged imo.
However, I also feel that users using others ranking to say their opinion isn’t valid shouldn’t be allowed and should be moderated heavily. An opinion or advice should be given, its up to others to take it up or not, no one should be subject to getting a response along the lines of ‘your rank is 1 million and therefore your advice is rubbish’. If you don’t agree argue the case its just a bit lazy relying on rank or past performance
Something which has crept in a little recently and needs to be stamped out quickly and strongly is posters deliberately posting misleading or fake calls during matchdays. Not genuine mistakes now, but for the laugh posting ‘AUSTIN!!!!!’ and then further down the post something please ‘please score’. This sort of thing should be an auto ban imo. It is rife on sites with chatboxes (totalfpl for example) and shouldn’t be allowed at all here. Genuine mistakes are different of course but the deliberate stuff should be stamped out.
The game can be frustrating, and sometimes on match threads posters can get frustrated with others posting about a good or bad score or the famous ‘happy enough with that’ after a good score. Collective chill pills need to be taken there lads. Its become a bit of an in joke on the forum now, embrace it
Agree fully about the FAQ, but problem is people still wont read it. But if someone (CSF) could just link to the thread every time someone asks a question that’s already answered as opposed to answering it again then that would be great.
One suggestion for the moderating team, I’ve noticed a few times that troll type posts are deleted, presumably the poster warned in private etc, but is it not better practise to deal with it on thread as it sets the example to follow0 -
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The sig thing is a great idea. I'll look to add it into mine ASAP. Agreed completely on the timing of the matchday thread as long as it is on the day of the game. We shouldn't be having a matchday thread days before the game because it isn't the matchday and there are transfer threads etc that deal with the buildup to it.First and foremost, it has to be said the forum is well run and enjoyable to read, post and follow. A feedback thread is a good idea as well just to get the users thoughts out in the open.
Considering this we shouldn’t be looking to implement lots of hard and fast rules imo. If its broke don’t fix it, and the forum certainly isn’t broken. A lot of forums on Boards.ie have been destroyed by too many rules and it simply takes the fun out of things. This is supposed to be a game and the forum should be relaxed rules wise
Regarding threads. I don’t believe there are too many threads. There is the standard General thread, RMT thread and then the individual GW capt, transfers and matchday threads. A lot of FSA league threads granted, but that should be encouraged as its good community stuff. I also don’t have any issue with the timing of a thread being created. What difference does it make if a matchday thread is started at 5 past midnight or 5 past 9 in the morning, likewise with the transfers thread being started as soon as the new deadline has passed. The only stipulation around timing of threads being started should be that its on the matchday (for match day threads) or past the deadline (for transfers threads).
I would like to suggest that users on the forum add a simple indication to their sig to identify their FPL/UFPL team. It would be useful to be able to check others teams and performance to evaluate advice given. A FPL button exists on FISO for this, but would probably be too much to ask the site developers on Boards.ie to implement one but just a simple F:team ID number would work well. This doesn’t need to be mandatory but should be encouraged imo.
However, I also feel that users using others ranking to say their opinion isn’t valid shouldn’t be allowed and should be moderated heavily. An opinion or advice should be given, its up to others to take it up or not, no one should be subject to getting a response along the lines of ‘your rank is 1 million and therefore your advice is rubbish’. If you don’t agree argue the case its just a bit lazy relying on rank or past performance
Something which has crept in a little recently and needs to be stamped out quickly and strongly is posters deliberately posting misleading or fake calls during matchdays. Not genuine mistakes now, but for the laugh posting ‘AUSTIN!!!!!’ and then further down the post something please ‘please score’. This sort of thing should be an auto ban imo. It is rife on sites with chatboxes (totalfpl for example) and shouldn’t be allowed at all here. Genuine mistakes are different of course but the deliberate stuff should be stamped out.
The game can be frustrating, and sometimes on match threads posters can get frustrated with others posting about a good or bad score or the famous ‘happy enough with that’ after a good score. Collective chill pills need to be taken there lads. Its become a bit of an in joke on the forum now, embrace it
Agree fully about the FAQ, but problem is people still wont read it. But if someone (CSF) could just link to the thread every time someone asks a question that’s already answered as opposed to answering it again then that would be great.
One suggestion for the moderating team, I’ve noticed a few times that troll type posts are deleted, presumably the poster warned in private etc, but is it not better practise to deal with it on thread as it sets the example to follow
Hadn't noticed the fake goal alert things thankfully (because that would infuriate me if it affected me). Should be clamped down on in the worst way. It is one of the worst offences someone could commit on this forum. That person might think its a great joke but people really care about their FPL team.
As for the silly questions, I don't want to be constantly providing links to people. Nobody does. I was largely doing it to point out how simple it would be for them to find the information themselves, rather than because I think these people really deserve to have me or the forum teach them the basic mechanics of the game. They need to go for the link themselves, and should be dealt with if they don't.0 -
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IndeedPersonally I think the main forum would lose out greatly from the lack of these, but then again I'm biased.
Fair enough, I'm not involved in any so have a different perspective, but it's not a biggie. Maybe Nody's tag suggestion would be good, althiough I can't for the life of me remember seeing these on boards before.
As for fake goal shouts, that should be cardable.0 -
Join in next year, hopefully we can win you over stillalchemist33 wrote: »Indeed
Fair enough, I'm not involved in any so have a different perspective, but it's not a biggie. Maybe Nody's tag suggestion would be good, althiough I can't for the life of me remember seeing these on boards before.
As for fake goal shouts, that should be cardable. 0 -
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You'd wanna have a dedicated person who makes the matchday threads and posts the team in that case. I'm not able to edit your posts for example, so it would all fall on one person.Lucas Hood wrote: »Another thing maybe someone could edit In the teams to the first post of the match day thread. Would save you having to search the thread for them.
I know which Finn Harps supporting person I would nominate if he were willing
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You'd wanna have a dedicated person who makes the matchday threads and posts the team in that case. I'm not able to edit your posts for example, so it would all fall on one person.
I know which Finn Harps supporting person I would nominate if he were willing
Give that Mr. P back his mod-hood
Personally I think it's an awful lot to ask one or two people to do. They would have to be online and ready at 5 or 6 specific times each weekend.
It'd be extremely handy if it was posted in OP...but it's not exactly hard to find the teams as is. Head to the page that starts 50mins before gametime. It's a few clicks away.0 -
I certainly wouldn't be volunteering for it thats for sure.Give that Mr. P back his mod-hood
Personally I think it's an awful lot to ask one or two people to do. They would have to be online and ready at 5 or 6 specific times each weekend.
It'd be extremely handy if it was posted in OP...but it's not exactly hard to find the teams as is. Head to the page that starts 50mins before gametime. It's a few clicks away.0 -
Give that Mr. P back his mod-hood
Personally I think it's an awful lot to ask one or two people to do. They would have to be online and ready at 5 or 6 specific times each weekend.
It'd be extremely handy if posts in OP...but it's not exactly hard to find the teams as is. Head to the page that starts 50mins before gametime. It's a few clicks away.
I'm quite happy with my retirement, still getting payments for another few months :pac:
Yeah I used to do it a lot before and have no problem doing it from time to time but as for putting it on the first page you'd need either a mod or the thread starter to be online at 2:15 and that's not going to work every week. Could certainly be done some of the time but it's not too hard to find the teams really. It's a good idea but it's not something we could get working at 100%0 -
We've 2 mods on here plus whoever starts the thread, so 3 people can edit threads ,if whoever started the thread isn't available for some games you, me or anyone else on here could pm the teams to a mod and they could edit in the teamsGive that Mr. P back his mod-hood
Personally I think it's an awful lot to ask one or two people to do. They would have to be online and ready at 5 or 6 specific times each weekend.
It'd be extremely handy if it was posted in OP...but it's not exactly hard to find the teams as is. Head to the page that starts 50mins before gametime. It's a few clicks away.
Does anyone read r/soccer? Your not allowed start match threads without following set guidelines. Something similar should be brought in here imo.0 -
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First and foremost, it has to be said the forum is well run and enjoyable to read, post and follow. A feedback thread is a good idea as well just to get the users thoughts out in the open.
Considering this we shouldn’t be looking to implement lots of hard and fast rules imo. If its broke don’t fix it, and the forum certainly isn’t broken. A lot of forums on Boards.ie have been destroyed by too many rules and it simply takes the fun out of things. This is supposed to be a game and the forum should be relaxed rules wise
Regarding threads. I don’t believe there are too many threads. There is the standard General thread, RMT thread and then the individual GW capt, transfers and matchday threads. A lot of FSA league threads granted, but that should be encouraged as its good community stuff. I also don’t have any issue with the timing of a thread being created. What difference does it make if a matchday thread is started at 5 past midnight or 5 past 9 in the morning, likewise with the transfers thread being started as soon as the new deadline has passed. The only stipulation around timing of threads being started should be that its on the matchday (for match day threads) or past the deadline (for transfers threads).
I would like to suggest that users on the forum add a simple indication to their sig to identify their FPL/UFPL team. It would be useful to be able to check others teams and performance to evaluate advice given. A FPL button exists on FISO for this, but would probably be too much to ask the site developers on Boards.ie to implement one but just a simple F:team ID number would work well. This doesn’t need to be mandatory but should be encouraged imo.
However, I also feel that users using others ranking to say their opinion isn’t valid shouldn’t be allowed and should be moderated heavily. An opinion or advice should be given, its up to others to take it up or not, no one should be subject to getting a response along the lines of ‘your rank is 1 million and therefore your advice is rubbish’. If you don’t agree argue the case its just a bit lazy relying on rank or past performance
Something which has crept in a little recently and needs to be stamped out quickly and strongly is posters deliberately posting misleading or fake calls during matchdays. Not genuine mistakes now, but for the laugh posting ‘AUSTIN!!!!!’ and then further down the post something please ‘please score’. This sort of thing should be an auto ban imo. It is rife on sites with chatboxes (totalfpl for example) and shouldn’t be allowed at all here. Genuine mistakes are different of course but the deliberate stuff should be stamped out.
The game can be frustrating, and sometimes on match threads posters can get frustrated with others posting about a good or bad score or the famous ‘happy enough with that’ after a good score. Collective chill pills need to be taken there lads. Its become a bit of an in joke on the forum now, embrace it
Agree fully about the FAQ, but problem is people still wont read it. But if someone (CSF) could just link to the thread every time someone asks a question that’s already answered as opposed to answering it again then that would be great.
One suggestion for the moderating team, I’ve noticed a few times that troll type posts are deleted, presumably the poster warned in private etc, but is it not better practise to deal with it on thread as it sets the example to follow
Agree with almost every point made above. Definitely think that more visible moderation will help educate people on what is acceptable and what is not and makes it clear what will not be tolerated.
Personally I do think a sub forum for all other fantasy sports would encourage more people to participate and get involved. If someone is playing fantasy games in baseball, golf, etc this forum is not really practical for them as any thread will get lost very quickly.
Another suggestion might be to create super threads for transfers and match days. not sure if this would work but it would cut down on the amount of threads being created for people who think there are too many, it works for the RMT, General threads so might work here as well. Alternatively I think each match day and transfer thread should be locked a couple of days after the GW ends.
All in all it's a great forum, by far the best of any I look at on boards, that is down to both the mods and all who contributes, there are not many changes needed. There is a little trolling etc but not near as much as other forums.0 -
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I've tried to roughly summarize the main points raised so far and potential solutions proposed (once again this is not a promise anything will be implemented but simply to structure it a bit):
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Problem: Threads / posts on how the game works covered by FAQ for it
Solution: Sticky and/or infraction
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Problem: Make competitions (i.e. the leagues, draft league) more visible
Solution: Sub forums, tags
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Problem: To many threads serving the same purpose
Solution: Superthreads on a topic, add sig with their FPL/UFPL team
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Problem: People claiming someone’s opinion is not valid due to ranking
Solution: Infraction (already applicable under personal attack?)
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Problem: Posting misleading or fake calls (i.e. Austin!!! – Please score)
Solution: Automatic ban
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Problem: Editing in the teams to the first post of the match day thread
Solution: OP to add it with in 24h, Mod added
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Problem: Early Matchday / Transfer threads being created
Solution: Come up with acceptable margin & report anything outside it to be locked
Very good summary Nody :cool:.
Since I haven't posted yet in here I'll start by commenting on each of these points. And add whatever I can think of afterwards...
1. FAQ is a good idea. Newcomers will have no excuse for asking basic questions (which can "pollute" threads). FAQ could consist of:- a link towards the game rules official page specifying that both "Frequently Asked Questions" & "Rules" tab shall be consulted. 99% of the answers you'd be seeking are there. It just requires a little effort and time.
- a few FSA "nicestness" about popular misunderstandings of the official rules e.g. any saved transfer will be lost if you play your WC ; you can activate your WC anytime during the GW you chose to play it and yes it will wipe out all your previous, present and future transfers in this given GW ; the transparency of the current Bonus Points system could be addressed here too by posting the full detail of how it is calculated...
- a few season updates on how the game is working/changing e.g. the price change system this year which doesn't include WC transfers anymore.
- a few links to popular FPL related sites. I think this thread did/does exist but is probably buried in the umpteenth page so it may be wiser to include it in the overall FAQ sticky...
It could be organised by category like price change predictions sites (FFF, FPLS, fiso, totalfpl), general info site (FFS, FFCheat...), FPL stats sites (FPL Discovery, FFF, FPL Statistico tool), useful twitters (Ben Dinnery FFS twitter, FPL official twitter...) etc...
I'm not sure the tags system would work here. We'd end up with the same amount of FPL related threads and the [FPL] tag will not make it that much easier to find the [6N] or [Autumn Tests] threads.
This leads me to 3.
3. This point is closely linked with 2. I think one of these solutions should be applied. If it's decided sub-forums are the way to go, I don't see it necessary to regroup the weekly threads into superthreads. Since we'd have a fully FPL-dedicated forum, the already existing superthreads would continue to be fed on a daily basis and the weekly ones will slowly make their way to the second page and beyond. A few threads (e.g. GK selection, Christmas preparation...) will continue to "suffer" from it and could be relegated to the second page but I don't see it as a major issue. Maybe to sort that out and avoid the creation/use of threads serving similar purposes, a sticky could be added (and updated from time to time by the mod) with a list of the long term active threads and what they are about if it's not obvious. That should prevent us from creating similar threads a few months apart and lead us to (better) post and discuss our matter in the most appropriate thread.
And If we don't go for sub-forums, superthreads could be created. I have to be honest and say that I'd largely prefer the first option. The GWs-dedicated threads work fine as they are IMO and if we could regroup the Transfers and Matchday ones we can not do it for the captain poll. I know it's a very minor detail but it is sometimes interesting to go back to the weekly threads from the previous seasons. Superthreads would impede that.
4. Ok with the solution here. Having our FPL ID in our sig may be interesting though as long as any point is argumented, rankings is absolutely irrelevant to the debate.
5. OK with the solution here. Same issue than the "lol at xxx owners" which was well dealt with by Futureguy earlier on in the season.
6. Not sure I get this one. If it is to be edited within 24h what's the point? We can get this info easily and early enough from a few twitter accounts and from the BBC website.
In principle that'd be a nice little info at the start of the Matchday thread but in practice a nightmare to apply wouldn't it? The OP and/or the mods would be slaves to the team line-up official announcements
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7. I have no pb with that. I don't think we ever had abusively early opened threads. The one from this GW is a genuine mistake from the OP. Nothing wrong about it. I understand that GW transfers threads are opened very early (I mean between the 12:45 Sat game and the Monday night one, so many games have to be played that you can change your mind 10 times about iyour transfers) but in the meantime price change can force your hand to move on a player as soon as Saturday eve and it's natural that FSA allows you to discuss it in the appropriate thread.
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Not sure I have much to add. I'll just say again that this is a really nice place to discuss the game with a great camaraderie despite the high "competitiveness" we all put in it. I'll add that personally it allows me keeping practicing my English about a nice and fun matter.
Just one thing actually about the tags system. I think it's already mostly implemented but a [FSA] tag to all FSA competitions could make the forum even more clearer.
Finally I remember when we moved from the FPL superthread in the Soccer forum to this place, many were questioning the real interest of such a forum, that FPL was not worth more than a superthread and that a dedicated forum would quickly see its popularity and activity diminish and reduced to a couple of threads only. We had to "fight" to obtain it and the very existence of this feedback thread and all the questions raised in it just show that we made the right choice and the very little troubles we had to deal with is a credit to all the contributors and the mods. Whatever changes (or not) this thread will cause, I think our main focus is to keep this place as civil and enjoyable as it's been and is now.0 - a link towards the game rules official page specifying that both "Frequently Asked Questions" & "Rules" tab shall be consulted. 99% of the answers you'd be seeking are there. It just requires a little effort and time.
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