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Charitable Donations.

  • 29-11-2013 8:43am
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    Registered Users Posts: 4,073 ✭✭✭


    Coming up to Christmas there are still many private individuals, private companies and public companies who will be making what would be described by many of them as their annual goodwill or charitable donation.

    The above approach for many individuals is an ideal way of walking the streets throughout the year without guilt as donation boxes are being rattled in front of them in shopping streets, or near sports stadiums on big match days or worse still especially in rural Ireland where collectors rattle their boxes in front of the drivers window in the middle of a line of traffic stopped at traffic lights.

    Two very big well known names will suffer this year as a result of paying their CEO's top up payments. I am not interested in having any such charities named.

    What I would like to see happen here is for board members list who they think are the most trusted and deserving charities as a guideline to those who are in the fortunate position to be able to donate something to the less well off in our society or for that matter in the world at large. It is timely that this discussion should take place now.

    I hope that this is the right forum for this post, it is posted here as very many well informed members contribute here.

    The Forum on Spirituality has been closed for years. Please bring it back, there are lots of Spiritual people in Ireland and elsewhere.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 915 ✭✭✭hansfrei


    SVP still organised well locally. Mostly volunteer collectors, organisers, workers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,073 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    I believe that Oxfam is pretty dependable.

    The Forum on Spirituality has been closed for years. Please bring it back, there are lots of Spiritual people in Ireland and elsewhere.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭raymon


    SVP , Simon, Salvation Army all do great work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,709 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Any established Irish charities helping people in the local community is what I support. Seeing is believing!


  • Site Banned Posts: 106 ✭✭J.P.M


    We need a water charity


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,751 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    UNICEF IRELAND
    Refused to divulge details as it is “bound by confidentiality as regards the remuneration of its recent executive director”. This refers to Melanie Verwoerd, sacked in July amid claims the board felt media interest in her relationship with broadcaster Gerry Ryan, who died in 2010, was damaging Unicef. Asked what package will be on offer to the new executive director, a spokesperson said the role “is remunerated at comparable levels to other international charities based in Ireland”.

    TRÓCAIRE
    Chief executive: Justin Kilcullen
    Salary 2010: €146,191.
    Salary 2011: €133,605.
    Expenses 2010 & 2011: Vouched out-of-pocket only. No figures supplied.
    Bonus payments: None.
    Pension entitlements: Based on 1/60th of final salary for each year of pensionable service. Maximum of 40/60ths.
    Company car: None.
    Charity income 2010: €63m.
    No of euro paid to chief executive per €1,000 of charity income: €2.32.

    ST VINCENT DE PAUL
    Services for those experiencing poverty and social exclusion.
    National Director: Kieran Murphy
    Salary 2010 & 2011: N/A. Salary range 2009 = €105,000 to €110,000.
    Expenses 2010 and 2011: Vouched out-of-pocket only. No figures supplied.
    Bonus payments: None.
    Pension entitlements: Defined contribution scheme to which the society contributes a max of 5% of salary.
    Company car: None.
    Charity income 2010: €73.9m.
    No of euro paid to chief executive per €1,000 of charity income: Approx €1.45.

    SPECIAL OLYMPICS IRELAND
    Sports organisation for people with intellectual disability.
    Chief executive: Matt English
    A spokesperson said: “Special Olympics Ireland has chosen not to get involved with this article.”

    SIMON COMMUNITIES OF IRELAND
    Charity dedicated to ending homelessness.
    Acting chief executive: Patrick Quinn
    Refused to divulge details of chief executive’s package on basis that it doesn’t reveal details of individual remunerations.

    OXFAM IRELAND
    International humanitarian agency.
    Chief Executive: Jim Clarken, also executive director of Oxfam International and non-paid chair of Dóchas, the umbrella organisation for the development sector.
    Salary 2010: €90,000 is set by Oxfam Ireland’s board and is not linked to organisational income.
    Salary 2011: No change.
    Expenses 2010/2011: Vouched travel expenses. No figures supplied.
    Bonus payments: None.
    Pension entitlements: Defined contribution pension scheme.
    Company car: None.
    Charity income 2010: €15.5m.
    No of euro paid to chief executive per €1,000 of charity income: €5.80.

    JACK AND JILL FOUNDATION
    Provides care and support for children with severe neurological development issues, as well as offering some respite to families.
    Chief executive: Jonathan Irwin
    Salary 2010: €88,200.
    Salary 2011: No change.
    Expenses 2010: €17,494, of which €4,048 relates to mileage using own car.
    Expenses 2011: €12,638 (up to August) of which €3,818 relates to mileage.
    All expenses are vouched and paid by Visa
    Bonus payments: None.
    Pension entitlements: None.
    Company car: None.
    Charity income 2010: €2.4m.
    No of euro paid to chief executive per €1,000 of charity income: €0.03 (2010).

    ISPCC
    (Irish Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children)
    Provides support services for and advocates on behalf of children and young adults
    Chief executive: Ashley Balbirnie
    A spokesperson said the board made a decision not to release the information requested by the Irish Examiner other than to say that the chief executive has “a flat salary arrangement and there is no company car provided or any bonus structure included” and that the ISPCC fundraises in excess of 90% of its funding.

    IRISH WHEELCHAIR ASSOCIATION
    Charity dedicated to improving the lives of people with physical disabilities.
    Chief executive: Kathleen McLoughlin
    Salary 2010/2011: €146,191. Ms McLoughlin is on secondment from the civil service where her substantive grade is principal officer. During her employment with the IWA, it has been contractually agreed that she will be paid the salary of assistant secretary. She is paid at the maximum point of this scale (€127,796 to €146,191)
    Expenses 2010: €219.69
    Expenses 2011: None up to August.
    Bonus payments: None.
    Pension entitlements: Ms McLoughlin retains her pension entitlement at principal officer level. Additionally, she has access to the IWA’s defined contribution scheme to provide her with pension benefit on the additional salary up to assistant secretary level.
    Company car: None.
    Charity income 2010: €53.7m.
    No of euro paid to chief executive per €1,000 of charity income: €2.72.

    IRISH HOSPICE FOUNDATION
    Supports the development of hospice and palliative care.
    Chief executive: Sharon Foley (appointed May 2011)
    Salary 2010: €101,350 (linked to civil service principal officer grade).
    Salary 2011: No change.
    Expenses 2010: €3,091.29 (vouched).
    Expenses 2011: €1,134.16 to end of August (vouched).
    Bonus payments: €17,800 in 2010. Paid only if certain pre-established targets are reached.
    Pension entitlements: Chief executive makes own contribution plus 10% contribution by charity.
    Company car: None.
    Charity income 2010: €5.35m.
    Amount paid to chief executive per €1,000 of charity income: €24.19=.

    IRISH GUIDE DOGS FOR THE BLIND
    Provides services to people who are blind or vision impaired and to the families of children with autism.
    Chief executive: Padraig Mallon (and acts as company secretary and HR manager).
    Salary 2010/2011: €85,000 to €100,000.
    Expenses 2010/2011: Vouched. No figures supplied.
    Bonus payments: None.
    Pension entitlements: IGDB operates a matched pension scheme. Employees make contributions of 5%.
    Company car: None.
    Charity income 2010: €4.2m.
    No of euro paid to chief executive per €1,000 of charity income: 0.2% of total income.

    IRISH CANCER SOCIETY
    National cancer care charity focused on achieving world-class cancer care.
    Chief executive: John McCormack.
    Mr McCormack also sits on a number of boards in his capacity as chief executive of the Irish Cancer Society, for which he does not receive any director’s fees.
    Salary 2010: €145,000.
    Salary 2011: No change since 2009.
    Expenses 2010: €6,600 (vouched).
    Expenses 2011: €1,200 up to August.
    Expenses costs include the cost of a company car.
    Bonus payments: None.
    Pension entitlements: All staff are members of the ICS pension scheme.
    Company car: Mazda 3 2008.
    Charity income 2010: €17.5m.
    No of euro paid to chief executive per €1,000 of charity income: €8.28.

    GORTA
    Overseas development agency.
    Chief executive: Brian Hanratty
    Salary 2010/2011: Less than €100,000. Pay freeze for all staff for the last three years.
    Expenses 2010/2011: N/A.
    Bonus payments: None.
    Pension entitlements: Gorta does not comment on individual arrangements.
    Company car: None.
    Charity income: €6.9m.
    No. of euros paid to chief executive per €1,000 of charity income: N/A. However ratio of income to chief’s salary is greater than 70:1.

    GOAL
    International humanitarian agency
    Chief executive: John O’Shea
    Salary 2010: N/A.
    Salary 2011: No member of GOAL earns in excess of €100,000 per annum.
    Expenses 2010/2011: Chief executive does not have an expense account.
    Bonus payments: None.
    Pension entitlements: Defined contribution scheme.
    Company car: 2007 Nissan Tiida purchased a year ago for €7,000. It is owned by GOAL.
    Charity income 2010: €72.4m.
    No of euro paid to chief executive per €1,000 of charity income: N/A.

    FOCUS IRELAND
    Works to advance rights of the homeless.
    Chief executive: Joyce Loughnan
    Salary 2010/2011: €125,000 .
    Expenses 2010: €3,245 (travel).
    Expenses 2011: €2,404 up to August (travel). All staff are covered by the same expense rules. Expenses for work-related travel are reimbursed in accordance with the Revenue Commissioners mileage rates.
    Bonus payments: None.
    Pension entitlements: All staff are members of the defined contribution scheme. Focus Ireland makes a standard employers contribution to this scheme of 7% of pensionable salary (ie, 7% of salary minus 1.5 times the state pension rate).
    Company car: None.
    Charity income 2010: €18.14m.
    No of euro paid to chief executive per €1,000 of charity income: €6.89. For every euro Focus Ireland receives, 91c is spent directly on services.

    ENABLE IRELAND
    Provides services to children and adults with disabilities.
    Chief executive: Fionnuala O’Donovan
    Salary 2011: €156,340. Waived a pay increase of 2.5% in 2008.
    Took a further cut in January 2010 to bring her salary into line with the public service cut of 12%.
    Expenses 2010/2011: Travel only and based on recorded mileage paid at public sector mileage rates.
    Bonus payments: Has not availed of the 10% bonus available to all senior public sector grades.
    Pension entitlements: Contributory defined benefit pension scheme.
    Company car: None.
    Charity income 2010: €50.4m.
    No of euro paid to chief executive per €1,000 of charity income: 0.3% of total income.

    COPE FOUNDATION
    Provides services for 1,800 children and adults with intellectual disability and autism.
    Chief executive: Colette Kelleher (appointed April 2011).
    Salary 2011: €130,000.
    Expenses 2011: €260 (vouched).
    Bonus payments: None.
    Pension entitlements: Nominated Health Agency Superannuation Scheme. This is a contributory pension scheme and provides the following benefits: 1/80th of salary per year of service (max 40 years)
    Lump sum: 3/80ths of salary per year of service (max 40 years).
    Company car: None.
    Charity Income 2010: €63.9m.
    No of euro paid to chief executive per €1,000 of income: €1.96.

    CONCERN
    International humanitarian agency
    Chief executive: Tom Arnold
    Salary 2010: €130,000 (based on assistant secretary grade in the public service).
    Salary 2011: No change.
    Expenses 2010/ 2011: Vouched. No figures supplied. It is Concern policy to fly economy class and use public transport where available.
    Bonus payments: None.
    Pension entitlements: The chief executive is on secondment from the Department of Agriculture where he was assistant secretary general.
    Concern maintains his pension rights under that scheme.
    Company car: None.
    Charity income 2010: €167m.
    No of euro paid to chief executive per €1,000 of charity income: €0.78.

    BROTHERS OF CHARITY SERVICES IRELAND
    Provides services and supports to people with intellectual disability and autism and their families.
    National chief executive: Winifred O’Hanrahan
    Salary 2010/2011: The HSE scale applicable to the national chief executive of the Brothers of Charity is a four-point scale from €19,901 to €37,927.
    Expenses 2010/2011: No bonus, unvouched expenses or overtime payments are attached to the post. All travel and subsistence are aligned to rates approved by the Department of Health.
    Bonus payments: See above.
    Pension entitlements: Nominated Health Agency Superannuation Scheme. This is a contributory pension scheme and provides the following benefits: 1/80th of salary per year of service (max 40 years).
    Lump sum: 3/80ths of salary per year of service (max 40 years).
    Basic salary is subject to the public sector pension deduction.
    Company car: None.
    Total budget 2010: €187,618,979.
    In 2010 the national chief executive’s salary represented 0.07% of the total annual budget.

    BÓTHAR
    Overseas aid agency that specialises in livestock production and supports support related training and development.
    Chief executive: David Moloney.
    Declined to release remuneration package details on the basis that they “do not individualise details of remuneration packages to any of the staff in our accounts”.
    Charity income for year ended June 30, 2010: €7.7m.

    BARNARDOS
    Provides services to children and families in need.
    Chief executive: Fergus Finlay
    Salary 2010: €113,315 (equivalent to 5th point on salary scale of HSE assistant national director). However, net cost to Barnardos is €88,000 because the chief executive contributes a minimum of €25,000 a year from fees earned through board memberships, speaking engagements and writing and broadcasting.
    Salary 2011: No change
    Expenses 2010: €7,900 on outgoings such as accommodation and cost of travel (including petrol) and contribution towards car maintenance (vouched — uses his own car). Mileage for 2010 was 25,000.
    Expenses 2011: N/A.
    Bonus payments: None.
    Pension entitlements: Chief executive contributes a portion of his salary to a defined contribution scheme.
    Company car: None.
    Charity income 2010: €24m.
    No of euro paid to chief executive per €1,000 of charity income: €4.70.

    ARTHRITIS IRELAND
    Chief executive: John Church
    Refused to divulge any details.
    A spokesperson said: “We don’t disclose remuneration details of any staff.”

    ALZHEIMER SOCIETY OF IRELAND
    Provides services to people with all forms of dementia, to their families and to their carers.
    Chief executive: Maurice O’Connell
    Salary 2010: €121,200.
    Salary 2011: No change.
    Expenses 2010: €1,877.
    Expenses 2011: None.
    Bonus payments: Not applicable.
    Pension entitlements: Defined contribution — 5% contributed by the society.
    Company car: A Honda until December 2011 when arrangement ends as a cost saving exercise.
    Charity income 2010: €17.8 million
    No of euro paid to chief executive per €1,000 of the charity’s income: €6.80.

    NATIONAL COUNCIL FOR THE BLIND OF IRELAND
    Provides services for people with sight loss.
    Chief executive: Des Kenny
    Salary 2010: €127,184
    Salary 2011: €125,326
    Expenses 2010: €1,120
    Expenses 2011: None. Mr Kenny does not drive, does not receive a payment in lieu of a car allowance and must vouch for travel expenses.
    Bonus payments: None in 2010 or 2011.
    Pension entitlements: Defined benefit. Own contribution of 5%. Company contribution N/A.
    Company car: None.
    Charity income 2010: €15.2m.
    No of euro paid to chief executive per €1,000 of charity income: €8.26.
    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/kfgbidgbqlgb/rss2/


    The problem I have is if I donate, how much of my euro goes to salaries and wages and how much goes to the very people who are supposed to be getting the charity...?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    SVP - local and volunteer based.

    I generally don't contribute to charities who use chuggers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,153 ✭✭✭everdead.ie


    Cancer Care West is who I donate to.

    I flat out refuse to deal with anyone who tries to bug me on the streets with there branded umbrellas and jackets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭RichardAnd


    I would consider the ISPCA to be a worthy charity.

    http://www.ispca.ie/

    Animals need help too ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,073 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    If charities give a simple breakdown like Barnardos do it would be great help.

    http://www.barnardos.ie/media-centre/news/latest-news/barnardos-funding.html

    From the Barnardos website. Out of every euro Barnardos spend

    88 cent on work with children and families
    11 cent on generating funds
    1 cent of governance.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    It's mad, there are none of the charities listed that I wouldn't consider s**m based on their pay levels. The CEO of any decent charity shouldn't be taking home more than the average wage. I don't buy the we need the best business people argument, go find a charitable business person.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,727 ✭✭✭✭Godge


    I have been turned off giving money to many of the registered charities by virtue of their commercialised collections. I now tend to give in kind, usually with my time being given to local schools, sports clubs and scout groups. I would also give extra money where I can in subscriptions to these type of organisations. I would also recycle through charity shops.

    I have a complete lack of trust that the money will be spent wisely by the big charities.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭Mr.Micro


    Godge wrote: »
    I have been turned off giving money to many of the registered charities by virtue of their commercialised collections. I now tend to give in kind, usually with my time being given to local schools, sports clubs and scout groups. I would also give extra money where I can in subscriptions to these type of organisations. I would also recycle through charity shops.

    I have a complete lack of trust that the money will be spent wisely by the big charities.

    It's all big business now. There needs to be transparency in the charities, no matter who they are.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,727 ✭✭✭✭Godge


    Mr.Micro wrote: »
    It's all big business now. There needs to be transparency in the charities, no matter who they are.

    But people get fooled.

    There was someone on another thread stating that charities were more efficient than the state because they only spent 0.5% of their income on governance but once you looked at the accounts, a very different picture emerged.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Godge wrote: »
    But people get fooled.

    There was someone on another thread stating that charities were more efficient than the state because they only spent 0.5% of their income on governance but once you looked at the accounts, a very different picture emerged.

    That's not comparing like with like either. The government has much more governing work to do than charities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/kfgbidgbqlgb/rss2/


    The problem I have is if I donate, how much of my euro goes to salaries and wages and how much goes to the very people who are supposed to be getting the charity...?

    The Jack and Jill Foundation CEO's salary is about 3% of income, about €36/37 of every thousand raised goes on it if I'm working it out correctly.

    It does seem odd that smaller charities are paying similar wages as multi-national concerns.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    Tabnabs wrote: »

    Some of the sums in your quoted piece are wrong:

    JACK AND JILL FOUNDATION
    I think this should be €44, the worst of the lot.

    IRISH GUIDE DOGS FOR THE BLIND
    This should be €20, very high.

    GORTA
    If he was paid 100K, it would be €15, so it is lower than that.

    GOAL
    €1.4 at worst.

    ENABLE IRELAND
    €3.12


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭micosoft


    Depends on the complexity of the organisation.

    If you have 3000 employees working in many dangerous locations internationally with a huge logistics capacity you should get paid a lot more then charities that deliver "informational" literature and that's it.

    A lot of UK or international charities that setup here (like Unicef or the likes) have a small office here with a fundraising manager called a "CEO" but paid as a fundraising manager. This makes the indigenous charities look worse even though this fundraising manager might actually be on comparatively good pay for their actual rate of responsibility.

    I also really dislike the me too charities. Ronan Keatings "Marie Keating" foundation is a good example. Even Bertie refused to give state funding. No reason at all why he could not have just supported the Irish Cancer Society except pure ego.

    Finally cynical business charities like the ISPCC which has essentially become Childline with nonsense "stats" published each year to drive income. All they do (at best) is refer to social protection. They eliminated all the direct support they did many years ago. Barnardos, with less fanfare, actually provide real direct support to families in distress. Because that's how you actually help children - not a glossy advertising campaign and call centre.

    At the end of the day, people need to look closely at the Charity they support and not just drop coins in a bucket. If that is your approach and that is the amount of thought you put into it don't be surprised when you discover your money has been wasted.


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