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Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13

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  • #202
    super_furry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Quite amazing to see how badly the likes of Downing, Adam and Carroll just outright failed as Liverpool players.


  • #203
    Fizman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,605 ✭✭✭Fizman


    super_furry wrote: »
    Quite amazing to see how badly the likes of Downing, Adam and Carroll just outright failed as Liverpool players.

    I was surprised when I saw Charlie Adams stats for last season. He played the equivalent to 24 full games in terms of minutes on the pitch. He had 12 assists along with 2 goals. I know you can't judge things on that alone, far from it, but that's far from shabby.


  • #204
    Chucky the tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    Fizman wrote: »
    I was surprised when I saw Charlie Adams stats for last season. He played the equivalent to 24 full games in terms of minutes on the pitch. He had 12 assists along with 2 goals. I know you can't judge things on that alone, far from it, but that's far from shabby.


    Pretty sure those stats, the assist ones anyway, are wrong. He only had 6 assists for us.


  • #205
    gafferino
    Registered Users Posts: 4,724 ✭✭✭gafferino


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    Luis....they're not all mine....I swear.....

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    Raheem my friend I dont believe you.......you are funny man

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    See Joe...thats what a football looks like...


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  • #206
    Sir Gallagher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,836 ✭✭✭Sir Gallagher


    Are we on the box tomorrow?


  • #207
    Chucky the tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    Changs confirmed as having left by "mutual constent".

    Sir Gallagher wrote: »
    Are we on the box tomorrow?



    Yea, Setanta sports I think, not the Irish one.


  • #208
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Jen Chang has left the building
    a spokesman said: “I can confirm Jen Chang has left Liverpool football club by mutual consent and has returned to the United States for family reasons.”


  • #209
    amiable
    Registered Users Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭amiable


    mike65 wrote: »
    Jen Chang has left the building
    I heard he's been back in New York for a while dealing with the knockon effects of the hurricane


  • #210
    hefferboi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭hefferboi


    whippedcream wrote: »
    228860.jpg


    Woo \o/

    What boots are they? Nicest I've seen in a long time.


    Also, Lucas <3


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  • #211
    Oscorp
    Registered Users Posts: 413 ✭✭Oscorp


    Family reasons, sure.

    Instead of informing him of his dismissal in a meeting or through email, Ian Ayre should've just shat in his letterbox. Chang would've gotten the message I'm sure.


  • #212
    Hoki
    Registered Users Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭Hoki


    I can still see Stoke stumping up at least £7m for Downing, they're nearly as bad as us at overpaying for players.


  • #213
    Anyone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Anyone


    Hoki wrote: »
    I can still see Stoke stumping up at least £7m for Downing, they're nearly as bad as us at overpaying for players.

    Martin O'Neill as well.


  • #214
    Hoki
    Registered Users Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭Hoki


    Anyone wrote: »

    Martin O'Neill as well.

    I can't see O' Neill buying another winger tbh, not after splashing out on Adam Johnson


  • #215
    Anyone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Anyone


    Hoki wrote: »
    I can't see O' Neill buying another winger tbh, not after splashing out on Adam Johnson

    Good job Downing is a left back then :pac: but I could see him spend 7-9m on him, 6-7m if he takes Joke Hole as well.


  • #216
    Nuri Sahin
    Site Banned Posts: 26,456 ✭✭✭✭Nuri Sahin


    bluefinger wrote: »
    we might get a turd though ...

    We have Joe Cole taking up that role.


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  • #217
    Francie Barrett
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,765 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Would not be at all surprised to see Downing back at Villa. Regardless of what we get for him, letting him go is the right decision.


  • #218
    amiable
    Registered Users Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭amiable


    Oscorp wrote: »
    Family reasons, sure.

    Instead of informing him of his dismissal in a meeting or through email, Ian Ayre should've just shat in his letterbox. Chang would've gotten the message I'm sure.

    It's never been confirmed by anyone about the letterbox except some bloke who has admitted he lied for months and has links to koptalk


  • #219
    Nuri Sahin
    Site Banned Posts: 26,456 ✭✭✭✭Nuri Sahin


    Hoki wrote: »
    I can still see Stoke stumping up at least £7m for Downing, they're nearly as bad as us at overpaying for players.

    Downing is English. MON will be interested.


  • #220
    amiable
    Registered Users Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭amiable


    Nuri Sahin wrote: »
    Downing is English. MON will be interested.

    On loan no doubt


  • #221
    PRAF
    Registered Users Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭PRAF


    Nuri Sahin wrote: »
    Downing is English. MON will be interested.

    Don't forget big Sam. He'll be interested to have the hugely succesful Downing-Carroll combination at West Ham.

    Actually, might not be a bad shout, for some reason Dalglish hardly ever seemed to have the two of them on the same pitch for any great length of time.


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  • #222
    Washington Irving
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,066 ✭✭✭Washington Irving


    It'd be fantastic if could get £20-25 million for Carroll and Downing


  • #223
    Melion
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    super_furry wrote: »
    Quite amazing to see how badly the likes of Downing, Adam and Carroll just outright failed as Liverpool players.

    Not really
    Downing was never going to be a success, the only reason he has any England caps is because when he was breaking through they were crying out for a left winger. Has been horribly over-rated for years.

    Adam was a one season wonder, one of the worst players ive ever seen in midfield for Liverpool.

    Carroll i think under a different manager could definitely do a job but the whole team would need to be built around his attributes, something that would never happen under BR.


  • #224
    Kerrigooney
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,987 ✭✭✭Kerrigooney


    SaulGoode9 wrote: »
    It'd be fantastic if could get £20-25 million for Carroll and Downing

    Agreed but when you think how much they cost you can't help but feel a bit ill can you? Jesus.


  • #225
    Washington Irving
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,066 ✭✭✭Washington Irving


    Kerrigooney wrote: »
    Agreed but when you think how much they cost you can't help but feel a bit ill can you? Jesus.

    It does look bad when look at it like that, but on the other hand if you look at what they offer to the squad, getting £20m+ for them would seem like great business


  • #226
    Seamu$
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 606 ✭✭✭Seamu$


    SaulGoode9 wrote: »
    It'd be fantastic if could get £20-25 million for Carroll and Downing

    Considering we spent £55m on them, "fantastic" wasn't the word that springs to mind! But, yes, we probably would do well to get £25m for them at this stage. Says alot about Kenny/Comolli's transfer dealings.


  • #227
    joe123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,523 ✭✭✭joe123


    Kerrigooney wrote: »
    Agreed but when you think how much they cost you can't help but feel a bit ill can you? Jesus.

    And people still complain that Rodgers is doing worse than Dalglish was, completely forgetting the money spent on utter ****e.

    I love Kenny, but its annoying when they compare his record to Rodgers when Rodgers has spent nowhere near what Dalglish did.


  • #228
    Melion
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    If we got 20m for them it would be great business by the club tbh, especially if that 20m went straight on a striker.


  • #229
    jaykay74
    Registered Users Posts: 6,586 ✭✭✭jaykay74


    Melion wrote: »
    If we got 20m for them it would be great business by the club tbh, especially if that 20m went straight on a striker.

    Is it known what kind of money both are on. I guess that would go some way to determining their value as I guess they won't fancy pay cuts so any clubs interest would have to factor in their current wage.


  • #230
    MyBrokenKnees
    Closed Accounts Posts: 922 ✭✭✭MyBrokenKnees


    Since Rafa left how many new players to the club under three different managers have been anyway near the level of player this club needs and should have playing for them? Suarez, Meireles maybe Allen in time will grow into one of those players. But I really can't think of anyone else. That alone is quite shocking really three different managers buying players and close to 170 million spent it really madness.


  • #231
    Melion
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    MyBrokenKnees wrote: »
    Since Rafa left how many new players to the club under three different managers have been anyway near the level of player this club needs and should have playing for them? Suarez, Meireles maybe Allen in time will grow into one of those players. But I really can't think of anyone else. That alone is quite shocking really three different managers buying players and close to 170 million spent it really madness.

    Its very worrying when you see it in plain english like that. Since 2009 we have signed 3 players who actually deserve to wear the shirt and one of them has already left.


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  • #232
    Turtyturd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,397 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    I'd swap Downing for Dzeko.


  • #233
    Oscorp
    Registered Users Posts: 413 ✭✭Oscorp


    Turtyturd wrote: »
    I'd swap Downing for Dzeko.

    Dzeko + £40 million and I'd think about it.


  • #234
    Turtyturd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,397 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Oscorp wrote: »
    Dzeko + £40 million and I'd think about it.

    I wouldn't want to push it, Downing and Dzeko are around the same level.


  • #235
    le la rat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭le la rat


    I think Carroll deserved another chance. He finshed the end of last season playing well. I know he doesn't fit into the style of play associated with Rodgers but he would give us a different option. What are peoples thoughts on Sahin so far ( I know its very early) but I havn't been impressed. Hopefully he sparks too life.


  • #236
    Turtyturd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,397 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    le la rat wrote: »
    I think Carroll deserved another chance. He finshed the end of last season playing well. I know he doesn't fit into the style of play associated with Rodgers but he would give us a different option. What are peoples thoughts on Sahin so far ( I know its very early) but I havn't been impressed. Hopefully he sparks too life.

    Now it feels like a Liverpool thread.:D


  • #237
    Melion
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    le la rat wrote: »
    I think Carroll deserved another chance. He finshed the end of last season playing well. I know he doesn't fit into the style of play associated with Rodgers but he would give us a different option. What are peoples thoughts on Sahin so far ( I know its very early) but I havn't been impressed. Hopefully he sparks too life.

    Carroll needs wingers and midfielders whipping balls in to him, he will never ever get that in a BR team, he would bring nothing to the squad at all. Its a shame because i actually like him but it will never work for him at Liverpool.

    Sahin, when played in his proper position will show people what he is all about. That will be when Lucas is back and Gerrard is moved forward.


  • #238
    Melion
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    Turtyturd wrote: »
    Now it feels like a Liverpool thread.:D

    Net spend?


  • #239
    le la rat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭le la rat


    Yea I remember I used too give out about Lucas a few seasons ago but How much have we missed him Over the last year and a bit


  • #240
    billymitchell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,996 ✭✭✭✭billymitchell


    Melion wrote: »
    Carroll needs wingers and midfielders whipping balls in to him, he will never ever get that in a BR team, he would bring nothing to the squad at all. Its a shame because i actually like him but it will never work for him at Liverpool.

    Sahin, when played in his proper position will show people what he is all about. That will be when Lucas is back and Gerrard is moved forward.

    And where does Joe Allen play?


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  • #241
    Melion
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    The one good thing about us not being in the CL anymore is that we no longer have Dunphy slating our players and therefore affecting peoples opinions on players i.e Lucas.


  • #242
    Melion
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    billymitchell wrote: »
    And where does Joe Allen play?

    In midfield with Lucas and Sahin :confused:


  • #243
    yesno1234
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭yesno1234


    billymitchell wrote: »
    And where does Joe Allen play?

    Ahead of Lucas in the midfield. A lot of us are expecting Gerrard to be moved into the right striker/winger position when Lucas returns


  • #244
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    billymitchell wrote: »
    And where does Joe Allen play?

    For the easy games, ahead of Lucas, for the hard ones beside Lucas.
    Lucas
    Gerrard--Allen

    -Lucas--Allen
    ----Gerrard


    Not sure about playing Gerrard in the middle, myself. Prefer to see Sahin given a chance in his preferred position


  • #245
    Melion
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    mike65 wrote: »
    For the easy games, ahead of Lucas, for the hard ones beside Lucas.
    Lucas
    Gerrard--Allen

    -Lucas--Allen
    ----Gerrard


    Not sure about playing Gerrard in the middle, myself. Prefer to see Sahin given a chance in his preferred position

    Im fairly sure that a full strength squad will see Gerrard playing in the front 3. BR said as much during "Being Liverpool"


  • #246
    klose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,871 ✭✭✭✭klose


    le la rat wrote: »
    I think Carroll deserved another chance. He finshed the end of last season playing well. I know he doesn't fit into the style of play associated with Rodgers but he would give us a different option. What are peoples thoughts on Sahin so far ( I know its very early) but I havn't been impressed. Hopefully he sparks too life.

    Criminally under used!


    On a serious note I don't get this 'he picked up good form' towards the Nd of last season, he had 1 and a half good games v Chelsea was it? But let's not go there..


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  • #247
    le la rat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭le la rat


    Melion wrote: »
    Net spend?
    over my head. first day here not sure if I said something wrong. (If it is related too Sahin yes its far to early was just wondering what peoples initial feelings on him are because I havn't watched him before coming to Liverpool.).


  • #248
    le la rat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭le la rat


    whippedcream wrote: »
    Criminally under used!


    On a serious note I don't get this 'he picked up good form' towards the Nd of last season, he had 1 and a half good games v Chelsea was it? But let's not go there..
    I thought he played well in the last 8 or 9 games of last season and was surprised he got dropped for the final. That game in particular he ws beast like and gave me some hope that he might turn it around. I have no problem with the decision rodgers made or anyones views that differ too mine in relation too Carroll as I an see where they are coming from


  • #249
    hefferboi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭hefferboi


    le la rat wrote: »
    over my head. first day here not sure if I said something wrong. (If it is related too Sahin yes its far to early was just wondering what peoples initial feelings on him are because I havn't watched him before coming to Liverpool.).

    Don't ask because, believe me, you don't want to know.


  • #250
    hefferboi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭hefferboi


    Carroll looks like he's a fighter and I think he'll have a good career but I don't think he'll play for us again while Rodgers is here. In being liverpool I liked before the Hearts game where he had a knock but wanted to play.


  • #251
    Melion
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    le la rat wrote: »
    over my head. first day here not sure if I said something wrong. (If it is related too Sahin yes its far to early was just wondering what peoples initial feelings on him are because I havn't watched him before coming to Liverpool.).

    Net spend will come around again soon and you'll want to hit your head repeatedly off your screen.


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