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Would you support the return of the Gaelic Nobility to Ireland?

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  • 28-10-2011 11:11pm
    #1
    RepublicanEagle
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    If not a parliamentary model akin to the UK, would you be in favor if it if it was solely a ceremonial role that replaced the presidency?

    I am obviously referring to the clans that fled during, before and after the "Flight of the Earls" and also the ones who remained.

    And Brehon Law, what would be your opinion on amending the constitution to accomodate some of the laws that would benefit society?


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    pragmatic1
    Registered Users Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    Some aspects of Brehon law live on. No I wouldnt be in favour of any form of nobility in Ireland. I'd actually be strongly opposed to the idea.


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    RepublicanEagle
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    pragmatic1 wrote: »
    Some aspects of Brehon law live on. No I wouldnt be in favour of any form of nobility in Ireland. I'd actually be strongly opposed to the idea.

    Which aspects of Brehon Law live on?

    What reasons would you have for opposing it? Would you not agree that there would be a lot of cultural benefits and a feeling of regaining a part of our heritage that has been lost for centuries?


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    sgb
    Registered Users Posts: 770 ✭✭✭sgb


    All those presidential debates makes you yearn for a monarchy


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    Temptamperu
    Registered Users Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    Yes and I think i shall be your King, I will be just and only sleep with your first born daughters.

    NOW KNEEL OR I WILL MAKE YOU KNEEL.


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    epgc3fyqirnbsx
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    The concept of copyright comes from Brehon law

    I dont think anyone should have a state title due to an accident of birth, you should earn your position in this day and age


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    John Doe1
    Registered Users Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭John Doe1


    Are those guys that would qualify not spread all over spain and the continent now? whats the point


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    bleg
    Registered Users Posts: 5,848 ✭✭✭bleg


    No! We call the monarchy in England retarded and you want to install one here.


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    RepublicanEagle
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    sgb wrote: »
    All those presidential debates makes you yearn for a monarchy

    Yup, no more stupid debates, posters, envelopes, alleged murder attempts, and not having to fork out millions for presidential state pensions (we will be paying a lot for Mary Robinson, Mary MacAleese and Michael D. Higgins combined together)


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    RepublicanEagle
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    Peter Young Dream wrote: »
    The concept of copyright comes from Brehon law

    I dont think anyone should have a state title due to an accident of birth, you should earn your position in this day and age

    Well if you are born into a political dynasty in the rural areas (Healy Raes anyone) you more less are sorted for life, which is an unfortunate fact.


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    Gingko
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    Lets keep it a Republic folks!!! "We serve neither King nor Kaiser" It may be far from perfect but I would still rather be a free citizen of a republic then a subject of a monarchist state! :)


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    AnamGlas
    Registered Users Posts: 593 ✭✭✭AnamGlas


    Hmmmm...

    Well, the fact Gaelic is barely spoken by the majority gets rid of that idea.


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    RepublicanEagle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭RepublicanEagle


    Gingko wrote: »
    Lets keep it a Republic folks!!! "We serve neither King nor Kaiser" It may be far from perfect but I would still rather be a free citizen of e republic then a subject of a monarchist state! :)

    High King ftw, has more of an epic ring to it.


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    Badgermonkey
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    pragmatic1 wrote: »
    No I wouldnt be in favour of any form of nobility in Ireland.

    What if we kept it classy?

    lisa-gerald.png


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    pragmatic1
    Registered Users Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    RepublicanEagle wrote: »
    Which aspects of Brehon Law live on?

    What reasons would you have for opposing it? Would you not agree that there would be a lot of cultural benefits and a feeling of regaining a part of our heritage that has been lost for centuries?
    Things like compensation in place of punishment.

    The concept of nobility seems silly and backwards to me. I dont think I'm better than anyone else but I definitely dont think another human that shytes like the rest of us is any better than me either.


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    dashboard_hula
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    Badgermonkey wrote: »
    What if we kept it classy?

    lisa-gerald.png

    Kill it! Kill it with fire!


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    RichieC
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    why the fk would anyone want this?


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    DEFTLEFTHAND
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    I'll take the position of High King if that's alright. I'm an O'Connor, the last Irish royal family.:cool:


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    Immaculate Pasta
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    I'm descended from a Celtic King from County Galway, does that count me as Gaelic nobility? If so count me in. :cool:

    What are you suggesting us Gaelic nobility do? Sit in a House of Lords equivalent like how they do in Britain alongside Lords like Lord Sugar and Lord Voldemort?


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    RichieC
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    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    I'll take the position of High King if that's alright. I'm an O'Connor, the last Irish royal family.:cool:

    not O'byrnes? :confused:


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    mikemac
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    Never mind the Meath boyos, the capital was Cashel at one stage
    Up Tipp :cool:

    Of course the city folk in Limerick, Dublin and Waterford let themselves get taken over by the Vikings.
    Hmmm, we can't call them West Brits but maybe there is another name for them


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    SafeSurfer
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    As pathetic as our candidates for the presidency may have been at least we get to choose who we feel is the least pathetic.

    One thing I like about our republic is that we are citizens not subjects.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



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    ejmaztec
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    RepublicanEagle wrote: »
    Well if you are born into a political dynasty in the rural areas (Healy Raes anyone) you more less are sorted for life, which is an unfortunate fact.

    Yes, Ireland is riddled with "mini-monarchies" from one end to the other, and most of them have earned their positions through bribery, corruption and general sliminess.


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    KeithAFC
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    Diarmait Mac Murchada, what a guy!

    Not a bad idea OP.


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    mikemac
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    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    One thing I like about our republic is that we are citizens not subjects.

    I don't know every monarchy but in the UK they are citizens also

    Changed from being subjects back in the eighties
    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Diarmait Mac Murchada, what a guy!

    Trust you to bring up Diarmait Mac Murchada/Dermot McMurrough you are always looking for a reaction

    Greatest traitor in Irish history and invited over Henry II and so began the eight hundred years
    The Brits didn't invade, they were invited by a power hungry chieftan.

    Of course you know this Keith, stirring it as always


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    #26
    professore
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    I quite fancy renovating the Rock of Dunamaise and ascending to the throne of my ancestors. And my mother is an O'Connor so I could work something out with the DEFTLEFTHAND.

    :D


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    DEFTLEFTHAND
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    RichieC wrote: »
    not O'byrnes? :confused:

    Rory O'Connor was the last High King in 1198.


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    Where To
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    Which Gaelic nobility are you referring to?

    There were quite a few.


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    #29
    Jimoslimos
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    No, unlike the British I can appreciate my country's heritage without needing to cling onto the outdated aspects of it.


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    mikemac
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    RepublicanEagle wrote: »
    Well if you are born into a political dynasty in the rural areas (Healy Raes anyone) you more less are sorted for life, which is an unfortunate fact.

    Hey this isn't just a rural thing.

    Lemass and Haughey in Dublin North
    The Lenihans in Dublin West.
    Going back a bit, Liam Cosgrave

    The Dubs are masters at it too


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    KeithAFC
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    mikemac wrote: »
    I don't know every monarchy but in the UK they are citizens also

    Changed from being subjects back in the eighties



    Trust you to bring up Diarmait Mac Murchada/Dermot McMurrough you are always looking for a reaction

    Greatest traitor in Irish history and invited over Henry II and so began the eight hundred years
    The Brits didn't invade, they were invited by a power hungry chieftan.

    Of course you know this Keith, stirring it as always
    Do you disagree with the OPs idea?


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