Rangers FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2012/2013

Pompey Magnus · 20-02-2012 10:25am

Rangers in crisis: Probe into £250,000 payment to company belonging to Craig Whyte associate

Rangers must sure have high hopes for little Banstead Athletic, £250,000 of the fan's own money goes to them while your club is broke and goes into administration.

For the record I don't believe Banstead Athletic will see a penny of that money.

PauloMN · 20-02-2012 10:46am

Pompey Magnus wrote: »

Rangers in crisis: Probe into £250,000 payment to company belonging to Craig Whyte associate

Rangers must sure have high hopes for little Banstead Athletic, £250,000 of the fan's own money goes to them while your club is broke and goes into administration.

For the record I don't believe Banstead Athletic will see a penny of that money.

Whatever about the £250k and the Banstead link, I find this astonishing:

Clark has admitted he does not know where the £24.4million Whyte raised by mortgaging off four years of season tickets to London firm Ticketus has gone.

Does not know where £24m is gone? Try Craig Whyte/White's pocket, to cover the bank debt he paid off. This whole thing stinks to high heaven, and it will be revelation after revelation for weeks/months with this guy.

Good to see the SPL blocking the Cousin deal (so far anyway). It's a disgrace that the administrator signed off on this deal when the club owe so much money in tax.

EDIT: just realised this is not in the Rangers Administration thread, mods feel free to move it.

Pompey Magnus · 20-02-2012 10:53am

PauloMN wrote: »

Good to see the SPL blocking the Cousin deal (so far anyway). It's a disgrace that the administrator signed off on this deal when the club owe so much money in tax.

The most logical explanation I have come across is that Cousin may have already been paid up front for his 10 week contract. This is the most reasonable explanation why the Administrators gave the go ahead for the transfer. Rangers are now just attempting to get £50,000 worth of work for the money which has already gone to the player's bank account.

It makes the most sense as to why McCoist is still considering appealing the decision and why the administrators allowed it whilst deciding which low wage employees can be given the chop, as the money was already gone and wouldn't cost the club any more if it went ahead.

PauloMN · 20-02-2012 11:33am

Pompey Magnus wrote: »

The most logical explanation I have come across is that Cousin may have already been paid up front for his 10 week contract. This is the most reasonable explanation why the Administrators gave the go ahead for the transfer. Rangers are now just attempting to get £50,000 worth of work for the money which has already gone to the player's bank account.

It makes the most sense as to why McCoist is still considering appealing the decision and why the administrators allowed it whilst deciding which low wage employees can be given the chop, as the money was already gone and wouldn't cost the club any more if it went ahead.

Good point PM. His agent probably insisted on the lot up-front.

lubo_moravcik · 20-02-2012 11:51am

Wow, what a two weeks to be banned from here. What's happening in the world of the rangers, any news??

PauloMN · 20-02-2012 11:58am

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

Wow, what a two weeks to be banned from here. What's happening in the world of the rangers, any news??

Not much really. Administration, 17 points behind the champions in waiting, White/Whyte done a runner to Monaco, millions unaccounted for, sectarian singing... you know, the usual.

lubo_moravcik · 20-02-2012 12:02pm

PauloMN wrote: »

Not much really. Administration, 17 points behind the champions in waiting, White/Whyte done a runner to Monaco, millions unaccounted for, sectarian singing... you know, the usual.

Business as usual then

Old Gill · 20-02-2012 12:15pm

Jelle1880 wrote: »

'You never hear hun mentioned outside of football'.

Aye ok.

what does that prove apart from some scrote wants to kill all huns (rangers fans)?

Old Gill · 20-02-2012 12:19pm

In summary of the rangers fans Hun is unacceptable because they think it doesnt just refer to rangers fans yet fenian is acceptable as it solely refers to celtic fans. Can some rangers fan reply to this with a simple True or false please?

Jelle1880 · 20-02-2012 12:33pm

Old Gill wrote: »

what does that prove apart from some scrote wants to kill all huns (rangers fans)?

It's in Springfield Road, Belfast, a well-known nationalist area.

Just like 'Kill All Taigs' this has nothing to do with the football side of things, it's to show that Hun is definitely used outside football.

Which is exactly why I don't believe that Hun = Rangers fans.

edit: Fenian for me doesn't refer to Celtic fans in general, it refers to those in their support (and in the general society) that support the provo's.
I know plenty of Celtic fans who have no time for that bollocks, but apparently a substantial part of them do, those that call themselves Fenians for example.
Hell, when I was in Dublin I even saw a few guys with a t-shirt where the Guinness logo was changed into 'Fenian's'.

PauloMN · 20-02-2012 1:05pm

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Which is exactly why I don't believe that Hun = Rangers fans.

So what does "The huns are going bust" mean then?

Pompey Magnus · 20-02-2012 1:14pm

PauloMN wrote: »

So what does "The huns are going bust" mean then?

Well as apparently Hun means Protestant and has nothing to do with Rangers in particular then it presumably refers to the dwindling Sunday collections being recorded at Protestant services across Britain.

TheBuilder · 20-02-2012 2:58pm

Old Gill wrote: »

No pope of rome
**** the pope and the ira
whos the fenian in the black
up to our knees in fenian blood

The sooner this cancer is removed from scottish sport the better. anyone on here who tries and defends such singing needs to take a look at themselves but i suspect they are too bigoted to see any harm in it.

Woah woah woah, back the offended bus up a minute.

Did you hear any of those on Saturday, I was at the game and all I heard was who's the fenian in the black. Whats sectarian about that exactly?

TBB was drowned out before it got to that line. The first two weren't heard at all.

Its no wonder Rangers fans don't post in this thread anymore, its a load of bollocks.

Jelle1880 · 20-02-2012 3:06pm

1 small rendition in the second half which didn't even make it to the offending part.
For the rest it was Killie fans and their version of it.

The media can **** right off.

premierstone · 20-02-2012 3:58pm

TheBuilder wrote: »

Its no wonder Rangers fans don't post in this thread anymore, its a load of bollocks.

Jelle1880 wrote: »

The media can **** right off.

LOL The cracks are starting to show boys! Its almost as bad as Ally's post match interview on Saturday, I actually thought he was going to cry

Jelle1880 · 20-02-2012 5:12pm

If you say so...

ColeTrain · 20-02-2012 5:50pm

TheBuilder wrote: »

Its no wonder Rangers fans don't post in this thread anymore, its a load of bollocks.

How many Rangers fans were posting in it anyway? You could nearly count on one hand

Eirebear · 20-02-2012 6:03pm

ColeTrain wrote: »

How many Rangers fans were posting in it anyway? You could nearly count on one hand

Enough for sellik fans to want this thread created.

Shame the rules of that thread have rarely been followed in this one though eh?

Eirebear · 20-02-2012 6:13pm

So - in summary.

Fenian is used as a catch all term to mean catholics and is therefore offensive, sectarian and bigoted.
Hun is not used as a catch all term for anyone except Rangers supporters although Hearts, Killie, Ayr, St Mirren and other clubs have been called Huns in the past due to the fact they "Act Like Rangers Supporters" whatever that means, and is therefore not offensive, sectarian or bigoted.

You couldnt make it up.

PauloMN · 20-02-2012 6:19pm

ColeTrain wrote: »

How many Rangers fans were posting in it anyway? You could nearly count on one hand

Depends on whether you include the "SPL supporters" in your count.

Old Gill · 20-02-2012 6:30pm

Eirebear wrote: »

So - in summary.

Fenian is used as a catch all term to mean catholics and is therefore offensive, sectarian and bigoted.
Hun is not used as a catch all term for anyone except Rangers supporters although Hearts, Killie, Ayr, St Mirren and other clubs have been called Huns in the past due to the fact they "Act Like Rangers Supporters" whatever that means, and is therefore not offensive, sectarian or bigoted.

You couldnt make it up.

Instances of this are fairly rare. Hearts would be the only club that get called this on any sort of regular basis (the mini's or diets) and the reason for this would be obvious to anyone who has visited tynecastle and heard their songbook or witnessed them celebrating each goal rangers scored v killie when celtic hosted hearts on last day of season. The reference being that they are similar to the huns but smaller.

KeithAFC · 20-02-2012 6:35pm

Eirebear wrote: »

So - in summary.

Fenian is used as a catch all term to mean catholics and is therefore offensive, sectarian and bigoted.
Hun is not used as a catch all term for anyone except Rangers supporters although Hearts, Killie, Ayr, St Mirren and other clubs have been called Huns in the past due to the fact they "Act Like Rangers Supporters" whatever that means, and is therefore not offensive, sectarian or bigoted.

You couldnt make it up.

It is anti Protestant, anti British chant. Simple as that.

The_Kew_Tour · 20-02-2012 6:36pm

Eirebear wrote: »

So - in summary.

Fenian is used as a catch all term to mean catholics and is therefore offensive, sectarian and bigoted.
Hun is not used as a catch all term for anyone except Rangers supporters although Hearts, Killie, Ayr, St Mirren and other clubs have been called Huns in the past due to the fact they "Act Like Rangers Supporters" whatever that means, and is therefore not offensive, sectarian or bigoted.

You couldnt make it up.

Killie and St Mirren supporters I know just support their own club.

Jelle1880 · 20-02-2012 6:41pm

ColeTrain wrote: »

How many Rangers fans were posting in it anyway? You could nearly count on one hand

Same could be said of the Celtic fans, that is until Rangers went into administration, lost the league and lo and behold: More appear out of nowhere

PauloMN · 20-02-2012 6:56pm

KeithAFC wrote: »

It is anti Protestant, anti British chant. Simple as that.

Absolute bollocks Keith.

"The Protestants/British are going bust"? WTF does that mean?

Eirebear · 20-02-2012 7:39pm

Old Gill wrote: »

Instances of this are fairly rare. Hearts would be the only club that get called this on any sort of regular basis (the mini's or diets) and the reason for this would be obvious to anyone who has visited tynecastle and heard their songbook or witnessed them celebrating each goal rangers scored v killie when celtic hosted hearts on last day of season. The reference being that they are similar to the huns but smaller.

So - in summary.

Fenian is used as a catch all term to mean catholics and is therefore offensive, sectarian and bigoted.
Hun is not used as a catch all term for anyone except Rangers supporters although Hearts, Killie, Ayr, St Mirren and other clubs have been called Huns in the past due to the fact they "Act Like Rangers Supporters" whatever that means, although this is "fairly rare" and is therefore not offensive, sectarian or bigoted.

You couldnt make it up.

Eirebear · 20-02-2012 7:44pm

Oh! I forgot to add to that summary!

When Celtic fans talk about fenians, or sing about fenians - this is of course in an entirely different manner to the "Catch all term for catholics" and is therefore not insinuating religious boundaries whatsoever.

Coillte_Bhoy · 20-02-2012 8:20pm

Eirebear wrote: »

Oh! I forgot to add to that summary!

When Celtic fans talk about fenians, or sing about fenians - this is of course in an entirely different manner to the "Catch all term for catholics" and is therefore not insinuating religious boundaries whatsoever.

correct

Eirebear · 20-02-2012 8:22pm

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

correct

We have our first contestant! Come on down, it's time for our weekly game of Cake, Or Eat It?

lubo_moravcik · 20-02-2012 9:22pm

KeithAFC wrote: »

It is anti Protestant, anti British chant. Simple as that.

No, you're wrong, simple as that.

KeithAFC · 20-02-2012 10:03pm

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

No, you're wrong, simple as that.

We all know it. You can't kid anyone. Aiming this chant at clubs with support bases which are mostly made up of Protestants. It is pathetic.

KeithAFC · 20-02-2012 10:06pm

PauloMN wrote: »

Absolute bollocks Keith.

"The Protestants/British are going bust"? WTF does that mean?

I don't care about your stupid little chant. The truth is it is put on walls as graffiti and is chanted towards clubs whos fan base is mainly Protestant. "Go on home ya Huns". We all know what it means.

spiralism · 20-02-2012 10:17pm

Eirebear wrote: »

Oh! I forgot to add to that summary!

When Celtic fans talk about fenians, or sing about fenians - this is of course in an entirely different manner to the "Catch all term for catholics" and is therefore not insinuating religious boundaries whatsoever.

Reclamation of the term?

Careful now, what you're saying is one step away from saying that its ok to use the N word pejoratively because rappers use it in their songs..

lubo_moravcik · 20-02-2012 10:23pm

KeithAFC wrote: »

We all know it. You can't kid anyone. Aiming this chant at clubs with support bases which are mostly made up of Protestants. It is pathetic.

How the hell do you know what support is mostly made up of protestants or otherwise?? Please fill me in on this, maybe you could write up a definitive list so everyone will know.
I genuinely couldn't give a flying f*** what religion someone is. I have a lot of mates and neighbours back home who are protestant, it means aboslutely nothing to me. I don't judge someone because of their religion, race, colour, sexual orientation etc etc.
Think what we have from you here is a classic case of transference. Because you view people in a certain way, it doesnt' mean that these same people view you in the same way.

Remember 'the keith' (the arsenal fan), everytime you point a finger, there are 3 pointing back at you.

spiralism · 20-02-2012 10:25pm

KeithAFC wrote: »

I don't care about your stupid little chant. The truth is it is put on walls as graffiti and is chanted towards clubs whos fan base is mainly Protestant. "Go on home ya Huns". We all know what it means.

That Rangers fans should go home?

KeithAFC · 20-02-2012 10:29pm

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

How the hell do you know what support is mostly made up of protestants or otherwise?? Please fill me in on this, maybe you could write up a definitive list so everyone will know.
I genuinely couldn't give a flying f*** what religion someone is. I have a lot of mates and neighbours back home who are protestant, it means aboslutely nothing to me. I don't judge someone because of their religion, race, colour, sexual orientation etc etc.
Think what we have from you here is a classic case of transference. Because you view people in a certain way, it doesnt' mean that these same people view you in the same way.

Remember 'the keith' (the arsenal fan), everytime you point a finger, there are 3 pointing back at you.

You can ignore the chant being painted on walls and outside Orange Halls all you want. Most Rangers fans know what it means.

KeithAFC · 20-02-2012 10:31pm

spiralism wrote: »

That Rangers fans should go home?

It also makes no sense. If you are trying to aim a chant at Rangers supporters, then don't tell them to go home. It makes no sense.

lubo_moravcik · 20-02-2012 10:36pm

KeithAFC wrote: »

You can ignore the chant being painted on walls and outside Orange Halls all you want. Most Rangers fans know what it means.

The night before I was confirmed by Archbishop Thomas Winning, the words 'No Pope' was painted on the wall of my Chapel.
What's your point?

Give us your list of teams with 'mostly protestant fans' please. Are Arsenal made up of such??? As for this 'most' rangers fans, speak for yourself.

spiralism · 20-02-2012 10:37pm

KeithAFC wrote: »

It also makes no sense. If you are trying to aim a chant at Rangers supporters, then don't tell them to go home. It makes no sense.

Oh come on. Used in the dying minutes with Rangers consigned to defeat i would gather it makes perfect sense, the age old art of rubbing it in when the fans are filtering out. Same as "we can see you sneaking out" etc

Dundee and Kilmarnock used it in your last two home games with fans slipping off home in the final minutes, bigots that they are :rolleyes:

This is why celtic fans are revelling in yer club's misery, these constant attempts to be offended tar us with the old firm brush that we're as bad as one another. We aren't and that's why many Celtic fans are delighted to see a future beyond Rangers

KeithAFC · 20-02-2012 10:47pm

spiralism wrote: »

Oh come on. Used in the dying minutes with Rangers consigned to defeat i would gather it makes perfect sense, the age old art of rubbing it in when the fans are filtering out. Same as "we can see you sneaking out" etc

Dundee and Kilmarnock used it in your last two home games with fans slipping off home in the final minutes, bigots that they are :rolleyes:

This is why celtic fans are revelling in yer club's misery, these constant attempts to be offended tar us with the old firm brush that we're as bad as one another. We aren't and that's why many Celtic fans are delighted to see a future beyond Rangers

It happens even before the end of games. Chants telling "huns" to go on home.

We aren't the same. We are the people.

Coillte_Bhoy · 20-02-2012 11:31pm

KeithAFC wrote: »

It happens even before the end of games. Chants telling "huns" to go on home.

We aren't the same. We are the people.

Who are the people? Rangers fans? Where does that leave celtic fans? Utter fascist nonsense.

Coillte_Bhoy · 20-02-2012 11:32pm

Jelle1880 wrote: »

The media can **** right off.

Don't generalise much do you?

KeithAFC · 20-02-2012 11:34pm

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Who are the people? Rangers fans? Where does that leave celtic fans? Utter fascist nonsense.

:pac: Its just a word/s. Just like hun.

Coillte_Bhoy · 20-02-2012 11:34pm

Eirebear wrote: »

We have our first contestant! Come on down, it's time for our weekly game of Cake, Or Eat It?

Oh dear, you're hurting bad aren't you

Coillte_Bhoy · 20-02-2012 11:36pm

KeithAFC wrote: »

:pac: Its just a word/s. Just like hun.

Nah it's not just a word. It implies a sense of superiority over other tax paying sections of society. Fascist drivel but i can see why you wold espouse it alright.

bobmalooka · 20-02-2012 11:38pm

KeithAFC wrote: »

It happens even before the end of games. Chants telling "huns" to go on home.

We aren't the same. We are the people.

we are the people with a club

KeithAFC · 20-02-2012 11:41pm

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Nah it's not just a word. It implies a sense of superiority over other tax paying sections of society. Fascist drivel but i can see why you wold espouse it alright.

Just like God save the Queen or WATP. Just old sayings. Perhaps now you understand why people get offended over words like Hun.

Eirebear · 20-02-2012 11:44pm

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Who are the people? Rangers fans? Where does that leave celtic fans? Utter fascist nonsense.

Oh jesus titty****ing christ. A football teams supporters claiming to be better than other teams fans! Shock of shocks!
Got to laugh at asking where that leaves Celtic fans, I think you may be missing the point of football chants now.

Whats getting dragged out next?
The Red and Black socks story? Maybe The Bouncy one?
What about the "Why is Dublin mentioned in Follow Follow?" debate?

Drivel is pretty much bang on.

Eirebear · 20-02-2012 11:45pm

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Oh dear, you're hurting bad aren't you

Hurting? Of course i am, my team is in a desperate situation.

This thread is helping though.

Fuhrer · 20-02-2012 11:50pm

Eirebear wrote: »

Oh jesus titty****ing christ. A football teams supporters claiming to be better than other teams fans! Shock of shocks!
Got to laugh at asking where that leaves Celtic fans, I think you may be missing the point of football chants now.

Whats getting dragged out next?
The Red and Black socks story? Maybe The Bouncy one?
What about the "Why is Dublin mentioned in Follow Follow?" debate?

Drivel is pretty much bang on.

Look on the bright side, you want have to read any stories about Rangers fans chatting vile things at football matches for much longer!

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