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If you want a gaming phone, DON'T get the HTC Desire!

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    #32
    h57xiucj2z946q
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,267 ✭✭✭h57xiucj2z946q


    I think he put his fist through it anyway http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056721447


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    #33
    TBi
    Registered Users Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭TBi


    Why he didn't just return it and demand his money back i'll never know. €40ish for replacement digitiser would have been the difference to a better phone.


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    #34
    skoomi
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 169 ✭✭skoomi


    TBi wrote: »
    Why he didn't just return it and demand his money back i'll never know. €40ish for replacement digitiser would have been the difference to a better phone.

    Damo is talking shyte my phone is still perfect.


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    #35
    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    skoomi wrote: »
    Damo is talking shyte my phone is still perfect.

    Perfect, yet the screen is smashed ?

    Im beginning to worry about your ability to understand both technology and technology advancements.


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    #36
    skoomi
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 169 ✭✭skoomi


    listermint wrote: »
    skoomi wrote: »
    Damo is talking shyte my phone is still perfect.

    Perfect, yet the screen is smashed ?

    Yes my phone is perfect and the screen is intact except for a small scratch.


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    #37
    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    skoomi wrote: »
    Yes my phone is perfect and the screen is intact except for a small scratch.

    Right im beginning to think you are trolling,

    Is this your small scratch ?

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=80124929&postcount=1


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    #38
    partyatmygaff
    Registered Users Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    This is old, old news. Back when the Desire/N1 was released it was fairly common knowledge that it had issues accurately tracking two fingers. It was multitouch designed with pinch for zoom in mind only.


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    #39
    TBi
    Registered Users Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭TBi


    listermint wrote: »
    Right im beginning to think you are trolling,

    Is this your small scratch ?

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=80124929&postcount=1

    I agree... i think i'll unfollow this thread.


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    #40
    skoomi
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 169 ✭✭skoomi


    listermint wrote: »
    Right im beginning to think you are trolling,

    Is this your small scratch ?

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=80124929&postcount=1


    Oh that's a second Desire I bought off Adverts for a friend. As I said, my phone is perfect.


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    #41
    skoomi
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 169 ✭✭skoomi


    partyatmygaff wrote: »
    This is old, old news. Back when the Desire/N1 was released it was fairly common knowledge that it had issues accurately tracking two fingers. It was multitouch designed with pinch for zoom in mind only.

    Should I be burned at the stake for warning people about this problem?

    The common argument here is "bah ... get a new phone". I can't afford one!

    I was an android noob > I wanted a cheap android phone > I bought the desire at a very good price > I found out about this problem > I make a thread about it to let people know (people like me, not you android elitists) > Everybody tells me to stop crying.


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    #42
    Jarren
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭Jarren


    Just one thing

    This app shows how your phone's hardware handles multitouch, very good diagnostic tool in my opinion.

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.batterypoweredgames.mtvistest&hl=en


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    #43
    partyatmygaff
    Registered Users Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    I bought my Desire way back on release day in April 2010. I didn't know about its problems with tracking two fingers when I bought the phone but seeing as most other phones at the time didn't have multitouch of any description and there were only a handful of apps which put multitouch to good use I didn't make too much of a fuss. I was very disappointed as I expected a flagship phone that costed over €500 to have proper multitouch but with use I realised it didn't really negatively impact the phone.

    As for gaming, it's out of date. The screen is too small, there's not enough storage space, it's no longer powerful enough and as you've also realised there's a problem with multitouch. It's an old phone and it's unreasonable to expect a lot from it.


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    #44
    guil
    Registered Users Posts: 10,487 ✭✭✭✭guil


    skoomi wrote: »
    Should I be burned at the stake for warning people about this problem?

    The common argument here is "bah ... get a new phone". I can't afford one!

    I was an android noob > I wanted a cheap android phone > I bought the desire at a very good price > I found out about this problem > I make a thread about it to let people know (people like me, not you android elitists) > Everybody tells me to stop crying.
    why didn't you buy the ascend g300, its cheap and pisses all over a desire from what i've read


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    #45
    Fysh
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,016 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    skoomi wrote: »
    Should I be burned at the stake for warning people about this problem?

    The common argument here is "bah ... get a new phone". I can't afford one!

    I was an android noob > I wanted a cheap android phone > I bought the desire at a very good price > I found out about this problem > I make a thread about it to let people know (people like me, not you android elitists) > Everybody tells me to stop crying.
    I'm not telling you to stop crying, i'm suggesting you acknowledge that it's no good for what you wanted to do, learn from the experience and move on.

    Im not trying to wind you up here, I just genuinely don't see that there are loads of people queueing up to buy a 2+ year old phone with the same expectations of brand-new-shiny performance that you seem to have had. Caveat emptor.


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    #46
    skoomi
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 169 ✭✭skoomi


    partyatmygaff wrote: »

    As for gaming, it's out of date. The screen is too small, there's not enough storage space, it's no longer powerful enough and as you've also realised there's a problem with multitouch. It's an old phone and it's unreasonable to expect a lot from it.

    Your post is 75% rubbish (the stuff I marked in bold), same as every other Android elitist here. In fact it would have been 100% rubbish if I was a person content with playing non-dual-axis games like the latest Angry Birds Space, Amazing Alex etc. etc.

    Dead Space - some of the most amazing graphics I've ever seen on a phone - works perfectly on the HTC Desire despite being officially incompatible. In fact I was blown away that graphics better than PS2 could be rendered on my "mere phone".

    The first three points you raised - just edit them out and delete them to save yourself embarrassment. The only problem is multitouch.

    Let me repeat this one final time - this thread is to advise potential Android n00bs or poor people who can't afford an S3 but want to enter the Android world while saving money (like me) that the HTC Desire has multitouch issues which may give you a pain in the hole if you plan on playing lots of games.

    I know you can't afford an expenisve modern phone despite elitists telling you to buy one, but just be weary of this issue if you have your eyes on a Desire. The phone is fantastic for everything else and I would really recommend it if you don't plan on experimenting with games. Thanks for listening.

    That is all.


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    #47
    skoomi
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 169 ✭✭skoomi


    guil wrote: »
    why didn't you buy the ascend g300, its cheap and pisses all over a desire from what i've read

    What have you been reading? Your own imagination?

    http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Huawei-Ascend-G300,HTC-Desire/phones/6991,4281

    http://www.phonegg.com/comparison/Comparez.php?p1=1246&p2=2266


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    #48
    Professey Chin
    Registered Users Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    skoomi wrote: »
    What have you been reading? Your own imagination?

    http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Huawei-Ascend-G300,HTC-Desire/phones/6991,4281

    http://www.phonegg.com/comparison/Comparez.php?p1=1246&p2=2266

    Those comparisons show a newer, cheaper phone with a larger display and a much greater amount of internal memory with an identically clocked speed on the processor that would likely be more efficient due to newer manufacturing techniques.
    Fancy clarifying your point behind those links?


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    #49
    skoomi
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 169 ✭✭skoomi


    The Great Chinholio wrote: »

    Those comparisons show a newer, cheaper phone with a larger display and a much greater amount of internal memory with an identically clocked speed on the processor that would likely be more efficient due to newer manufacturing techniques.
    Fancy clarifying your point behind those links?

    It's more expensive than the desire.

    It doesn't have scratch resistant glass like the Desire.

    Sure, the larger display is 0.3 inches larger...or 7.6mm. You're jizzing your pants over that?

    Processor may be more efficient, and I agree the internal memory of the Desire is a pain but fixable. Does it "piss all over" the desire? No.


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    #50
    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Right, firstly your thread is 2 years out of date. And had you researched this yourself you would have seen the limitations of the tech that you 'just bought thats perfect'

    Secondly all your posts are coming across as argumentative and dillusional.


    And finally, nearly 10mm all round on a screen of that size is much to get jizzed about because it makes a massive difference due to the scale of the desire.

    (of which i have on my desk beside me coupled with a SGN)

    Anyway point being, I wouldnt be going out buying a desire in todays market because its rubbish compared to what is available and i also dont have time to be correcting wrongs in the phones OS.


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    #51
    MiCr0
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 6,265 CMod ✭✭✭✭MiCr0


    does anyone thing this thread is going anywhere?


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    #52
    Patsy fyre
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,184 ✭✭✭Patsy fyre


    Can this thread be locked?


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    #53
    Fysh
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,016 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    skoomi wrote: »
    Let me repeat this one final time - this thread is to advise potential Android n00bs or poor people who can't afford an S3 but want to enter the Android world while saving money (like me) that the HTC Desire has multitouch issues which may give you a pain in the hole if you plan on playing lots of games.

    I know you can't afford an expenisve modern phone despite elitists telling you to buy one, but just be weary of this issue if you have your eyes on a Desire. The phone is fantastic for everything else and I would really recommend it if you don't plan on experimenting with games. Thanks for listening.

    That is all.

    Oh, pull the other one, it feels better :rolleyes:

    You're "poor" but you can spend €200 on a discretionary item like a touchscreen phone for playing games?

    This thread reads more like you trying desperately to convince yourself it's someone else's fault that you didn't know what you were buying when you bought a Desire thinking it'd be functionally identical to something a couple of generations newer. After a few minutes looking up specs, if you wanted an android-based phone in the ~3-4" form factor for gaming at around €200, there are plenty of options. I've taken the time to list them below, along with the prices at which they're listed either new or used:

    HTC Desire:
    • Price: £210 new (Amazon.co.uk), €110-180 used (adverts.ie)
    • Release date: early 2010 (Feb-May)
    • Processor: 1GHz QSD8250
    • GPU: Adreno 200
    • RAM: 576MB
    • Onboard: 512MB
    • SDHC: Up to 32GB
    • Display: 3.7" dual-touch capacitative touchscreen

    HTC Desire S:
    • Price: €340 new (Pixmania.ie), €200 used (adverts.ie)
    • Release date: Early 2011 (Feb-March)
    • Processor: 1GHz MSM8255
    • GPU: Adreno 205
    • RAM: 768MB
    • Onboard: 1.1GB
    • SDHC: Up to 32GB
    • Display: 3.7" multi-touch capacitative touchscreen

    HTC Desire HD:
    • Price: £299.99 new (Amazon.co.uk), €160-240 used (adverts.ie)
    • Release date: late 2010 (Sept-Oct)
    • Processor: 1GHz MSM8255
    • GPU: Adreno 205
    • RAM: 768MB
    • Onboard: 1.5GB
    • SDHC: Up to 32GB
    • Display: 4.3" multitouch capacitative touchscreen

    Sony-Ericsson Xperia Pro:
    • Price: £191 new (Amazon.co.uk), €265 (Pixmania.ie), unavailable used
    • Release date: Late 2011 (oct)
    • Processor: 1GHZ MSM8255
    • GPU: Adreno 205
    • RAM: 512MB
    • Onboard: 1GB
    • SDHC: up to 32GB
    • Display: 3.7" multitouch capacitative touchscreen

    Sony-Ericsson Xperia Mini Pro:
    • Price: ~£160 new (amazon.co.uk), ~€200 new (Pixmania.ie)
    • Release Date: Late 2011 (Aug)
    • Processor: 1GHz MSM8255
    • GPU: Adreno 205
    • RAM: 512MB
    • Onboard: 320MB
    • SDHC: Up to 32GB
    • Display: 3.0" multitouch capacitative touchscreen.

    As you can see from the specifications, the Desire uses a QSD8250 CPU rather than the MSM8255 - you can see the full differences by consulting this Wikipedia page detailing the Snapdragon chipsets, but suffice to say that the QSD8250 was first released in late 2008 while the MSM8255 was first released in mid-2010. I've not listed other hardware specs like camera quality, but from what I could see none of the above devices are lacking something that the Desire has.

    The prices I've listed above are based on searches I did this morning, so they're as current as anything you've deigned to offer us.

    I look forward to reading your explanation of how the above is somehow still wrong and I'm an elitist for pointing out that the hypothetical phone-gamer-on-a-budget could get a much better value device for their money if they spent even a little bit of time doing some research.


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    #54
    Heroditas
    Registered Users Posts: 9,445 ✭✭✭Heroditas


    MiCr0 wrote: »
    does anyone think this thread is going anywhere?


    Since the opening post.

    It's a bit like someone buying a DVD player and complaining it won't play Blu-Ray disks. :confused:


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    #55
    Korvanica
    Registered Users Posts: 3,992 ✭✭✭Korvanica


    You should have researched the phone before buying it. Cheers for the warning though.

    Regards

    2010


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    #56
    petes
    Registered Users Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    MiCr0 wrote: »
    does anyone thing this thread is going anywhere?

    Not really. The OP is pee'd off that they didn't research a phones capabilities before they bought it and now they have it they realise it doesn't handle multi touch too well.

    My One X pisses on it though ;)


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    #57
    Kenno90
    Registered Users Posts: 3,184 ✭✭✭Kenno90


    I loved this phone when i bought it in 2010, it was my first android phone and my first real smartphone. But its two years old at this stage what did you expect.

    If my Galaxy Nexus ever fails i'd be happy to switch back to it for a replacement.


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    #58
    h57xiucj2z946q
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,267 ✭✭✭h57xiucj2z946q


    I'm still using my Nexus One. But I rarely play games on it. Not those fancy 3D ones anyway. Just the odd 2D games. At the minute Probe the humans & Stupid Zombies.


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    #59
    subway
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,131 ✭✭✭subway


    im looking at all the specs being listed, and none of them seem to say -
    "****ty multitouch" :pac:

    while OP is a little out of date, its a fair call out. although one that i can't see benefitting anyone that much ;)


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    #60
    docentore
    Registered Users Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭docentore


    This thread made my day :)

    BTW my GeForce 6600GT plays Quake 3 perfectly


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    #61
    Fysh
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,016 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    subway wrote: »
    im looking at all the specs being listed, and none of them seem to say -
    "****ty multitouch" :pac:

    while OP is a little out of date, its a fair call out. although one that i can't see benefitting anyone that much ;)

    You didn't notice that I specifically listed it as "dual-touch" capacitative touchscreen compared to specifically "multi-touch" capacitative touchscreen then, no? I'll assume you're trying to reproduce the OP's approach to reading so :pac:

    It'd be a fair call-out if there was a wide perception that the Desire was in any way still a current contender for phone-based gaming. I've not seen any evidence of that anywhere, not least because there are a whole bunch of more recent phones with better specs at similar prices to what the OP claims to have paid that would be far more sensible choices. Especially not with the attitude on display in this thread.


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