Areas to avoid in D15

Oddjob · 28-02-2012 12:49am

BostonB wrote: »

This guy has burgled your neighborhood, including the Department of Justice...

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/teen-burgled-department-of-justice-401251.html

Meh, I don't see where he's even been in my postcode. But I'm sure you feel clever, and that's the main thing.

Morag · 28-02-2012 12:57am

And some people choose to live were they live due to having family live near by.
Dublin 15 has the population of cork city there will always be posh places, dodgy places and plenty of nice in bewteen places.

I get your point you wouldn't live here, great that's your choice, you've had your say.

Zaph · 28-02-2012 1:30am

OK folks, could we please keep this civil. Thanks.

From personal experience, had circumstances been different I wouldn't be living in D15 myself. But that's because I'm from the southside and would prefer to be closer to my family, who all live there. However when buying a house on your own you buy what your mortgage can afford, so Oddjob does have a valid argument in that regard. However I can't say I'm unhappy with my decision to buy here and there are many parts of the city that I would choose D15 over if I was house-hunting again. Sure, there are some bad areas, but you'll find them on the southside too. And Castleknock would be a desirable address no matter what part of Dublin it's in. But unfortunately it's a sad indication of the current situation the country is in that crime is on the increase, and really there isn't any part of the city that's immune. Of course you're more likely to be a victim of crime in certain parts of the city, and certain parts of D15, than others. But these days I wouldn't be sitting smugly anywhere thinking that I could never be broken into or mugged. The odds are still stacked against that happening to you, just not as much as they used to be.

Anyway, this is all getting OT and not necessarily helping the OP, so could we please get back on-topic. Thanks.

BostonB · 28-02-2012 1:58am

Claiming a city center location (or near it) has never been burgled or has crime, is ludicrous. Not to mention such a sweeping disparaging generalization across such a massive area. I don't get this fixation of Castleknock being the only quiet area in D.15 unless you don't know the area very well.

The initial census returns of 2011 show that Dublin 15 is one of the fastest growing areas in Ireland and is the biggest suburban area in Dublin. With over 100,000 inhabitants, Dublin 15 is bigger than Galway and Limerick Cities and also has a population greater than several of the counties in Leinster (e.g. Kilkenny, Laois, Carlow or Longford).

amdublin · 28-02-2012 8:44am

Oddjob wrote: »

amdublin wrote: »

And I've never had any of those things happen to me either

Dublin 15 is a very large area. You are choosing to ignore very nice areas in D15 (one of them being Castleknock).

Yes there are nice areas, but the majority are not nice. here's a hint for you if you ever decide to move.

If rents are low, nobody wants to live there, and there's a reason

If rents are high, people do want to live there, and there's also a reason.

People mentioning Castleknock like it's a beacon, there are parts of D15 that will be a ghetto in the near future, you decide if you want to live there.

I mentioned castleknock because you were yacking on about it being cheap.

You have mentioned tyrellstown once or twice. Far from a ghetto. Have you been there tecently? There are many different nationalities livinh there ranging from irish to imigrants from africa to italians and spanish working in ibm and ebay. Its not a ghetto though.

Id take it any day over soi disant nice area like bedsit heaven parts of rathmines or concrete hell parts of stillorgan.

Diddler1977 · 28-02-2012 9:56am

Oddjob wrote: »

True, there's nobody living in D15 because they could afford to, but didn't want to live somewhere nicer.

There's a reason that the area is a favourite of immigrants and that's because it's cheap. It's the same in every city in the world.

Unfortunately, whilst cheap housing attracts immigrants, it also attracts less desirable elements of society.

Oh dear.

I choose to live in D15 because
1. I get to live near the Phoenix Park
2. I can walk to the largest public library in Ireland
3. I am only 20 min drive away from the airport
4. I have friendly neighbours
5. I am close to the Blanchardstown Centre
6. I feel safe walking the streets at night with the dog
7. I am only a short commute by bike to town

Will I go on?

PS> I am not an immigrant and I would always choose the Northside over the Southside to live.

I also take extreme offence at you calling myself and other D15ers less desirable elements of society.
I ask you to take this statement back.

ThisRegard · 28-02-2012 10:07am

Why feed this Oddjob character, he's obviously a gob****e.

thomasj · 28-02-2012 10:24am

Oddjob wrote: »

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

Where are you living, out of interest?

I lived in Ranelagh for a few years, then moved to Blackrock, but didn't like it, so I moved to Upper Leeson St.

I find that alot of people offer this type of opinion on places even though they've probably never stepped foot there! its happening alot and i would go as far to say that people have taken out bigger mortgages that they couldn't afford to move to places that have a reputation to be "nicer" and with a bigger value. Thats all gone out the window now!

joolsveer · 28-02-2012 10:29am

I have lived in Clonsilla since 1983 and I have no desire to move. My house is close to the railway and bus routes and not too far from the M50. It suits me and my family.

gerarda · 28-02-2012 10:52am

Diddler1977 wrote: »

Oh dear.

I choose to live in D15 because
1. I get to live near the Phoenix Park
2. I can walk to the largest public library in Ireland
3. I am only 20 min drive away from the airport
4. I have friendly neighbours
5. I am close to the Blanchardstown Centre
6. I feel safe walking the streets at night with the dog
7. I am only a short commute by bike to town

Will I go on?

PS> I am not an immigrant and I would always choose the Northside over the Southside to live.

I also take extreme offence at you calling myself and other D15ers less desirable elements of society.
I ask you to take this statement back.

I'm also offended by this! Im living in Tyrrelstown for the same reasons, I've never been robbed / mugged etc. We could have gotten a 1 bed shoe box somewhere else but we decided we didn't want to be ripped off. Some of my friends bought apts in Dundrum and Stillorgan at the same time that now have families and now they want to move to D15 for more space!

wildlifeboy · 28-02-2012 11:03am

I live in coolmine and it is generally really safe and quiet and its extremely settled. i personally wouldnt go near waterville and st mochtas because of the high proportion of people renting. no community spirit

fletch · 28-02-2012 11:41am

Another...born in D15 and lived there most of my life. Rented for a while in Foxrock/Carrickmines area and saw equally as much trouble at night with youths hanging around etc...
These houses in D15 look like miserable places to live alright
http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/huntington-outfarm-lane-castleknock-dublin-15/1762605
http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/fionn-uisce-castleknock-road-castleknock-dublin-15/370830
http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/67-georgian-village-castleknock-dublin-15/1259984

chucknorris · 28-02-2012 1:02pm

I live in Corduff.

It's a council estate but now a large majority of the houses are owned by the occupants.

Castleknock and Carpenterstown etc maybe more affluent but I can tell you for sure that very few areas in the d15 area have a community spirit like Corduff.

Yes we have our g****s but so too does everywhere. Allot of the scum of the past are dead now or long gone from the area and all in all it is an area that has matured fairly well.

Smashing Shotokan club
Smashing football club
Smashing sports facilities
A proper LOCAL watering hole
A top class creche
A relatively decent health centre

Ballycoolin to the north, the aquatic centre and hospital to the east, the ITB to the west and the Blanchardstown centre to the south. Not bad.

It is one of the last few areas in D15 where you not only know your neighbor next door but you'll know your neighbors in the estate generally. Unfortunately that is not so prevalent in newer estates and affluent areas to boot. Some people like to keep to themselves but I'm a social animal.

It maybe a boring cliche but it's not where you live, it is how you live.

amdublin · 28-02-2012 3:00pm

I and others have listed some great amenities that are in our area that oddball has chosen to ignore.

nudger · 28-02-2012 4:58pm

amdublin wrote: »

I and others have listed some great amenities that are in our area that oddball has chosen to ignore.

Thought it was Oddjob, Nah your right.

Zaph · 28-02-2012 5:13pm

nudger wrote: »

amdublin wrote: »

I and others have listed some great amenities that are in our area that oddball has chosen to ignore.

Thought it was Oddjob, Nah your right.

OK folks, last warning, back on topic and cut out the personal digs or I'll be handing out cards and/or bans.

Diddler1977 · 28-02-2012 6:24pm

To answer the OP I would say the following places in D15 are perfectly safe to live and bring up a family in:

In no particular order:

Ongar
Clonee
Tyrrelstown
Clonsilla
Carpenterstown
Blanchardstown
Castleknock
Huntstown
Hartstown
Warrenstown

Hilly Bill · 29-02-2012 12:00am

amdublin wrote: »

I mentioned castleknock because you were yacking on about it being cheap.

You have mentioned tyrellstown once or twice. Far from a ghetto. Have you been there tecently? There are many different nationalities livinh there ranging from irish to imigrants from africa to italians and spanish working in ibm and ebay. Its not a ghetto though.

Id take it any day over soi disant nice area like bedsit heaven parts of rathmines or concrete hell parts of stillorgan.

Personally i think Tyrellstown is a ghetto in the making. The houses are too close together and the off licence is a rip off

.

wildlifeboy · 29-02-2012 12:02am

Wow Diddler so basically the whole area is grand..you didnt leave anything out besides ladyswell and whitechapel..fortlawn, sheepmoor, etc

Hilly Bill · 29-02-2012 12:03am

Diddler1977 wrote: »

To answer the OP I would say the following places in D15 are perfectly safe to live and bring up a family in:

In no particular order:

Ongar
Clonee
Tyrrelstown
Clonsilla
Carpenterstown
Blanchardstown
Castleknock
Huntstown
Hartstown
Warrenstown

Thats all of D15 so

Forget the train, the 39A is the way to go.

Hilly Bill · 29-02-2012 12:03am

wildlifeboy wrote: »

Wow Diddler so basically the whole area is grand..you didnt leave anything out besides ladyswell and whitechapel..fortlawn, sheepmoor, etc

They are in blanchardstown and Clonsilla

Oddjob · 29-02-2012 12:07am

chucknorris wrote: »

I live in Corduff.

It's a council estate but now a large majority of the houses are owned by the occupants.

Castleknock and Carpenterstown etc maybe more affluent but I can tell you for sure that very few areas in the d15 area have a community spirit like Corduff.

Yes we have our g****s but so too does everywhere. Allot of the scum of the past are dead now or long gone from the area and all in all it is an area that has matured fairly well.

Smashing Shotokan club
Smashing football club
Smashing sports facilities
A proper LOCAL watering hole
A top class creche
A relatively decent health centre

Ballycoolin to the north, the aquatic centre and hospital to the east, the ITB to the west and the Blanchardstown centre to the south. Not bad.

It is one of the last few areas in D15 where you not only know your neighbor next door but you'll know your neighbors in the estate generally. Unfortunately that is not so prevalent in newer estates and affluent areas to boot. Some people like to keep to themselves but I'm a social animal.

It maybe a boring cliche but it's not where you live, it is how you live.

No, it's not.

Yes we have our g****s but so too does everywhere. Allot of the scum of the past are dead now or long gone from the area and all in all it is an area that has matured fairly well.

I have no idea what g****s might refer to, but not every area has scumbags and burglars. Not every area has to wait for the local knackers to die from being shot or overdosing on drugs.

Smashing Shotokan club
Smashing football club
Smashing sports facilities
A proper LOCAL watering hole
A top class creche
A relatively decent health centre

I have no idea what Shotokan is, and every other amenity you mention is basically provided by the taxpayers and doesn't exist in a decent area.

Apart from the watering hole.

Hilly Bill · 29-02-2012 12:14am

If you are not living or from D15 then why are you trolling here?

nudger · 29-02-2012 12:52am

OP,
might be worth your while looking at the Racecourse or Rathborne, both in D15 and close to the train, and closer to the city center (if that is where you are commuting to) than other places mentioned, nice areas.

Molly1983 · 29-02-2012 12:57am

Quote:
Originally Posted by Diddler1977
I haven't heard of anyone being mugged.

I work in huntsmen and personally know of an elderly lady with an intellectual disability who was mugged last weekend feb17th after getting off the bus at Ashfield.

Absolutly disgured that this scum would target the most vulnerable in our society

Marcin_diy · 29-02-2012 1:01am

Oddjob wrote: »

True, there's nobody living in D15 because they could afford to, but didn't want to live somewhere nicer.

There's a reason that the area is a favourite of immigrants and that's because it's cheap. It's the same in every city in the world.

Unfortunately, whilst cheap housing attracts immigrants, it also attracts less desirable elements of society.

what?
What's wrong with immigrants? I find it much more dangerous to meet young local irish lads on my way than people form all other parts of the world. I live in nice area of D15 not because I don't have money - I live there, because I'm not silly enough to buy much more overpriced properties in different areas of Dublin and pay my mortgage for the rest of my life....

Zaph · 29-02-2012 1:04am

OK, enough. If people can't keep on-topic there's little point in having the thread open as at this stage the OP isn't getting any more useful information.

Areas to avoid in D15

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