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What do you consider a 'culchie' to be?

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  • #252
    Sea Filly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭Sea Filly


    summerskin wrote: »
    Of course it's not a city, it's effectively a county. That's where the difference lies with Dublin, that Dublin includes Meath, Wexford and Kildare in it's population count. That would be like Manchester Metropolitan District including South West Lancashire in it's figures.

    Isn't Rochdale in Lancashire? :confused:


  • #253
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,166 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    If you say "keep er lit"


  • #254
    summerskin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭summerskin


    Sea Filly wrote: »
    summerskin wrote: »
    Of course it's not a city, it's effectively a county. That's where the difference lies with Dublin, that Dublin includes Meath, Wexford and Kildare in it's population count. That would be like Manchester Metropolitan District including South West Lancashire in it's figures.

    Isn't Rochdale in Lancashire? :confused:

    They all used to be Lancashire until Greater Manchester was formed in 1974. Most of us would still say we are from Lancashire. Lancashire cricket club play at Old Trafford for example.


  • #255
    getz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭getz


    Sea Filly wrote: »
    Isn't Rochdale in Lancashire? :confused:
    so is bury but its still part of gt manchester


  • #256
    getz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭getz


    Marcusm wrote: »
    Nope, there is not. There is the City of London which conforms roughly to the area you describe. It has it's own Lord Mayor, police force etc.
    london town-a particular suburb of london,the town,or london town,is also the nickname used for the city of london,[wiki answers]


  • #257
    Sea Filly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭Sea Filly


    summerskin wrote: »
    They all used to be Lancashire until Greater Manchester was formed in 1974. Most of us would still say we are from Lancashire. Lancashire cricket club play at Old Trafford for example.

    So really, we're coming down to technicalities over Manchester's supposed dwarving of Dublin?


  • #258
    Marcusm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,429 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    getz wrote: »
    london town-a particular suburb of london,the town,or london town,is also the nickname used for the city of london,[wiki answers]

    Only in songs by Kanye West or Fergie!!!


  • #259
    summerskin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭summerskin


    getz wrote: »
    so is bury but its still part of gt manchester

    Not anymore, since 1974 Bury has no longer officially been a part of Lancashire. These are the only boroughs in Lancs now:

    1. West Lancashire
    2. Chorley
    3. South Ribble
    4. Fylde
    5. Preston
    6. Wyre
    7. Lancaster
    8. Ribble Valley
    9. Pendle
    10. Burnley
    11. Rossendale
    12. Hyndburn
    13. Blackpool (Unitary)
    14. Blackburn with Darwen (Unitary)


    I'll always be a Lancastrian though, not a Greater Mancunian.


  • #260
    Marcusm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,429 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    summerskin wrote: »
    Not anymore, since 1974 Bury has no longer officially been a part of Lancashire. These are the only boroughs in Lancs now:

    1. West Lancashire
    2. Chorley
    3. South Ribble
    4. Fylde
    5. Preston
    6. Wyre
    7. Lancaster
    8. Ribble Valley
    9. Pendle
    10. Burnley
    11. Rossendale
    12. Hyndburn
    13. Blackpool (Unitary)
    14. Blackburn with Darwen (Unitary)


    I'll always be a Lancastrian though, not a Greater Mancunian.

    But that would make you the equivalent of a culchie Lancastrian as you're not from Lancaster!


  • #261
    summerskin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭summerskin


    Sea Filly wrote: »
    So really, we're coming down to technicalities over Manchester's supposed dwarving of Dublin?

    Nope, I just mentioned earlier in the thread that Manchester was one of many cities that i had lived in that i felt were more cosmopolitan than Dublin, which is purely my opinion. Someone else brought size into it. I find Manchester more cosmopolitan, perhaps because it has always been an international centre for business going back to the Industrial Revolution, meaning that many different cultures are represented there, along with all the possibilities for food, entertainment etc that provides. It's no New York or London, certainly, but in my opinion it has much more to offer than Dublin.

    as it is, it's impossible to compare the two as Manchester has sprawled significantly, particularly into Trafford and Salford. In fact you can drive the whole length of Greater Manchester without there being a significant border or gap between it's constituent towns.


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  • #262
    summerskin
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    Marcusm wrote: »
    But that would make you the equivalent of a culchie Lancastrian as you're not from Lancaster!

    In one of those bizarre little follies, Lancaster is smaller than most other towns in Lancashire, and is significantly more rural.

    That said I'd be considered a culchie for being from the Saddleworth area of Oldham, which is mostly fields and farms, a skanger/chav because we moved and I grew up in a council estate, a posh twat because I went to private school and a city boy because i spent 15 years split between london, geneva and new york.

    And now the full circle as i live in rural clare and am apparently a culchie again....(in England we call culchies "sheep-shaggers, well at least in the north west we do, or woollybacks in some areas)


  • #263
    EdanHewittt
    Registered Users Posts: 164 ✭✭EdanHewittt


    Felexicon wrote: »
    Dublin people who know this tend to take a bit more offence to being called jacks

    Isn't jackeen the more appropriate word?
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jackeen


  • #264
    Bombay Allee
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    should not you be making hay?


  • #265
    dd972
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    summerskin wrote: »
    Not anymore, since 1974 Bury has no longer officially been a part of Lancashire. These are the only boroughs in Lancs now:

    1. West Lancashire
    2. Chorley
    3. South Ribble
    4. Fylde
    5. Preston
    6. Wyre
    7. Lancaster
    8. Ribble Valley
    9. Pendle
    10. Burnley
    11. Rossendale
    12. Hyndburn
    13. Blackpool (Unitary)
    14. Blackburn with Darwen (Unitary)


    I'll always be a Lancastrian though, not a Greater Mancunian.

    you'll always be a woolyback to sharp scousers and streetwise mancs, no insult intended, just showing off my knowledge of the north west :pac:


  • #266
    summerskin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭summerskin


    dd972 wrote: »
    summerskin wrote: »
    Not anymore, since 1974 Bury has no longer officially been a part of Lancashire. These are the only boroughs in Lancs now:

    1. West Lancashire
    2. Chorley
    3. South Ribble
    4. Fylde
    5. Preston
    6. Wyre
    7. Lancaster
    8. Ribble Valley
    9. Pendle
    10. Burnley
    11. Rossendale
    12. Hyndburn
    13. Blackpool (Unitary)
    14. Blackburn with Darwen (Unitary)


    I'll always be a Lancastrian though, not a Greater Mancunian.

    you'll always be a woolyback to sharp scousers and streetwise mancs, no insult intended, just showing off my knowledge of the north west :pac:

    As I said a post or two ago....

    "And now the full circle as i live in rural clare and am apparently a culchie again....(in England we call culchies "sheep-shaggers, well at least in the north west we do, or woollybacks in some areas)"


  • #267
    Ted_YNWA
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,799 ✭✭✭✭Ted_YNWA


    more importantly ...


    Who's bringing the horse to France


  • #268
    carlmango11
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    getz wrote: »
    london town-a particular suburb of london,the town,or london town,is also the nickname used for the city of london,[wiki answers]

    I don't think that's right. When people say "London Town" I think they just mean London in general. When people say "The City" they mean the City of London which is what you're talking about. That's always the way I've known it anyway.


  • #269
    Zebra3
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    Felexicon wrote: »
    Yep. They are actually called Jacks because the pale was the last place on the island to fly the union jack at full mast during the rising.

    Dublin people who know this tend to take a bit more offence to being called jacks

    Oh dear. :rolleyes:

    If you are gonna use a term to insult people, please get the facts behind it right.


  • #270
    John_Rambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,872 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Why are you all so Dublin obsessed?

    Anyway, you know your a culchie when you love big engined 1970's American V6 and V8 muscle cars. (and you can rebuild the engines)


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  • #271
    kfallon
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    Culchies often use the phrase "well wha" after any sentence


  • #272
    woodoo
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    fishy fishy wrote: »
    in a nutshell,

    a culchie is from anywhere outside of Dublin

    A Jackeen is for any Dub.

    Doesn't matter how you live or what you have - a dub is a jack, the rest of ireland are culchies.

    That's it - it's quite simple really.

    Let's not make a meal of it okay??

    Thats it from a Dublin perspective. Most people outside of Dublin don't use that word. I don't use jakeen or culchie. Its far too black and white. Outside of Dublin we still know there is a difference between someone from cork city and cork county, someone who grew up in a farming community and someone who grew up in a town. There are lots of subtle differences throughout Ireland.


  • #273
    el diablo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,757 ✭✭✭el diablo


    kfallon wrote: »
    Culchies often use the phrase "well wha" after any sentence

    And the term "some dose", eg. "she's some dose". Anyone who uses that is pure culchie.

    I've no idea what it means though.

    We're all in this psy-op together.🤨



  • #274
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Yeah I don't think the word 'Jackeen' is used much in the country. I know in my own locality people just say the Dubs. The use of Culchie still seems to be prevalent in the capital though.


  • #275
    Custardpi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Custardpi


    I was once told by a relative of mine (who grew up in the Liberties) that the term "culchie" originally applied to anyone who lived far enough away from Christchurch cathedral not to be able to hear the bells ringing. By that definition anyone living in the suburbs, which in olden days were self contained villages & a considerable journey away (especially if you couldn't afford a carriage to take you & had to walk) would not be considered a real Dub.


  • #276
    John Doe1
    Registered Users Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭John Doe1


    Compared to Tokyo or London, Dublin is a little backwater.

    A culchie is someone who is from the countryside who acts like a simpleton ie.going to mass every sunday and talking like a farmer


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  • #277
    Sea Filly
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    John Doe1 wrote: »
    Compared to Tokyo or London, Dublin is a little backwater.

    Tokyo and London are alpha cities, of which there is only a handful in the world. Bit disingenuous comparing Dublin to them.


  • #278
    el diablo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,757 ✭✭✭el diablo


    John Doe1 wrote: »
    Compared to Tokyo or London, Dublin is a little backwater.

    A culchie is someone who is from the countryside who acts like a simpleton ie.going to mass every sunday and talking like a farmer


    That's everyone outside Dublin so. ;)


    Then most cities are a backwater compared to Tokyo if that's how you want to look at it.. Not really sure what your point is there. :confused:

    We're all in this psy-op together.🤨



  • #279
    John Doe1
    Registered Users Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭John Doe1


    el diablo wrote: »
    That's everyone outside Dublin so. ;)

    Uh huh:rolleyes:

    I've went to college in dublin, ive visited the bastion of cosmopolitan culture that is cabra:p


  • #280
    el diablo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,757 ✭✭✭el diablo


    John Doe1 wrote: »
    Uh huh:rolleyes:

    I've went to college in dublin, ive visited the bastion of cosmopolitan culture that is cabra:p

    Just winding you up. ;) I've never been to Cabra so I can't comment. :p

    We're all in this psy-op together.🤨



  • #281
    seachto7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭seachto7


    So people in the country talk like farmers? But we're not all farmers?


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  • #282
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Anyone who doesn't round off an "oh" sound :p
    Double points if you at "ah" to it as well, so the word "No" is pronounced like "Noah" (Biblical Noah of course)


  • #283
    carlmango11
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    From my experience being born and raised in Dublin I find that Dubliners use the word "culchie" to apply to people who aren't from Dublin; little thought seems to be given as to whether they're from a town or not - it's sort of a Dublin/Not Dublin thing.

    I think for those outside Dublin (dirty culchies! :pac:) there seems to be a distinction between town and rural when it comes to branding someone a culchie.

    So essentially the word has two meanings in Ireland depending who you're talking to.

    Personally I'd use the word culchie for those not from a city and I don't really consider Cork/Galway etc as cities; they have more of a large-town vibe - ipso facto: outside the Dublin Metropolitan Area = culchie; not that I ever use the word.
    Custardpi wrote: »
    I was once told by a relative of mine (who grew up in the Liberties) that the term "culchie" originally applied to anyone who lived far enough away from Christchurch cathedral not to be able to hear the bells ringing. By that definition anyone living in the suburbs, which in olden days were self contained villages & a considerable journey away (especially if you couldn't afford a carriage to take you & had to walk) would not be considered a real Dub.

    Loada boll0x. That's like saying people who can't hear the trains at Charing Cross aren't Londoners and are simply culchies.

    EDIT: Oh and O'Connell street isn't Dublin in that case.


  • #284
    Medusa22
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    woodoo wrote: »
    Thats it from a Dublin perspective. Most people outside of Dublin don't use that word. I don't use jakeen or culchie. Its far too black and white. Outside of Dublin we still know there is a difference between someone from cork city and cork county, someone who grew up in a farming community and someone who grew up in a town. There are lots of subtle differences throughout Ireland.

    I agree with Woodoo. I lived in Cork city for my entire life and I became friends with a few girls who were from Cork county, one of them has a farm and it is very obvious that we have different lives. They view me as someone from the city and I view them as people from the countryside, it isn't an insult. We are just different.


  • #285
    war_child
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 453 ✭✭war_child


    Always gonna be the same debate wen it comes to what people classify as culchies.
    Coming from Dublin i personally hate the word i much prefer filthy muck savage lol only kiddin there culchies, i call my father in law a muck savage and he calls me a jackeen altho he has adopted the scanger in to his daily repetoire lmao.

    I think if ya keep it light and dont offend anyone clasifications like this are ok and in my own opinion anyone that hails from anywer that doesnt have a D 1,2,3,4,,5,6,7,8,9,10 YOU GET THE POINT , in their address should undoubtedly be classed as a culchie/muck savage , and should be horsewhipped with lastnights old sausages for thinking their not.


  • #286
    fishy fishy
    Registered Users Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭fishy fishy


    woodoo wrote: »
    Thats it from a Dublin perspective. Most people outside of Dublin don't use that word. I don't use jakeen or culchie. Its far too black and white. Outside of Dublin we still know there is a difference between someone from cork city and cork county, someone who grew up in a farming community and someone who grew up in a town. There are lots of subtle differences throughout Ireland.

    LOL, I would be one of the people from OUTSIDE Dublin. Believe me - it is that simple.

    Dublin = Jackeens

    Rest of ireland = Culchies

    Thats how it was - complicating it by messing around with other Counties is all nonsense.

    Anyway, the rest of Ireland don't mind being called Culchies - if the only alternative is to be called a jackeen.

    :p:p


  • #287
    Carles Puyol
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    A culchie is anyone who has to travel more than 20 minutes to get to a nightclub.


  • #288
    [Deleted User]
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    A culchie is also anyone who has ever had to shyte in a bucket.


  • #289
    wetfish
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    We're all culchies...it's just the thick ones that don't known it... :D:D:D


  • #290
    el diablo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,757 ✭✭✭el diablo


    Carles Puyol wrote: »
    A culchie is anyone who has to travel more than 20 minutes to get to a nightclub.

    What if you live next door to a nightclub in Tubercurry or Ballyhaunis? Does this mean you're not a culchie?

    We're all in this psy-op together.🤨



  • #291
    getz
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    summerskin wrote: »
    Not anymore, since 1974 Bury has no longer officially been a part of Lancashire. These are the only boroughs in Lancs now:

    1. West Lancashire
    2. Chorley
    3. South Ribble
    4. Fylde
    5. Preston
    6. Wyre
    7. Lancaster
    8. Ribble Valley
    9. Pendle
    10. Burnley
    11. Rossendale
    12. Hyndburn
    13. Blackpool (Unitary)
    14. Blackburn with Darwen (Unitary)

    I'll always be a Lancastrian though, not a Greater Mancunian.
    its always been a snob problem ,even though bury [ex lancashire ] stockport,altrincham[ex cheshire] are now in gt manchester,you try telling the locals the TV and press that,when i lived in radcliffe in bury i had a manchester post code yet bury has a lancashire post code,as i was born in altrincham/hale i will always consider myself a cheshire/manc


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  • #292
    ZeitgeistGlee
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    Coming from the Tipp heartland I've had plenty of experience with people I'd deem as "culchies". Handiest rule of thumb I've come across is how they pronounce GAA, if it's "Gaa" they're cluchies to their roots.

    I do love the "Dublin's the only city in Ireland" idea though, I was in Melbourne for a few months a couple of years ago and it makes Dublin look like Waterford by comparison.


  • #293
    getz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭getz


    carlmango11 wrote: »
    I don't think that's right. When people say "London Town" I think they just mean London in general. When people say "The City" they mean the City of London which is what you're talking about. That's always the way I've known it anyway.
    wiki.answers.com/Q/what_is_a_town_in_london


  • #294
    ynul31f47k6b59
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    I always just thought that Dubs were Dubs and everyone else was a Culchie.

    Except townies, they're universal.

    Being called a culchie never bothered me, but I think there are different degrees of Culchie - I've worked on a bog, drove a tractor, caught the odd death notice, but I also have an array of stupid hipster things and I do have a soft spot for a panini and a shellac.

    I do have a neighbour who is culchie personified, he makes my heart weep when I see him on a night out - he's just short a bit of grass in his mouth. Checked shirt, tucked into jeans (pale jeans, fresh off the radiator so they'd walk by themselves) and shiny shoes. :( Gives the rest of us a bad name!


  • #295
    Marcusm
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    war_child wrote: »
    Always gonna be the same debate wen it comes to what people classify as culchies.
    Coming from Dublin i personally hate the word i much prefer filthy muck savage lol only kiddin there culchies, i call my father in law a muck savage and he calls me a jackeen altho he has adopted the scanger in to his daily repetoire lmao.

    I think if ya keep it light and dont offend anyone clasifications like this are ok and in my own opinion anyone that hails from anywer that doesnt have a D 1,2,3,4,,5,6,7,8,9,10 YOU GET THE POINT , in their address should undoubtedly be classed as a culchie/muck savage , and should be horsewhipped with lastnights old sausages for thinking their not.

    Including the populations of Blackrock, Stillorgan, Monkstown abs Dun Laoghaire.


  • #296
    el diablo
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    ZeitgeistGlee wrote: »
    Coming from the Tipp heartland I've had plenty of experience with people I'd deem as "culchies". Handiest rule of thumb I've come across is how they pronounce GAA, if it's "Gaa" they're cluchies to their roots.

    I do love the "Dublin's the only city in Ireland" idea though, I was in Melbourne for a few months a couple of years ago and it makes Dublin look like Waterford by comparison.

    Dublin is the only proper city in the Rep. of Ireland. We are a country with a population of 4.5 million. Why are you comparing it to cities in Australia?

    :confused:

    We're all in this psy-op together.🤨



  • #297
    ZeitgeistGlee
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    el diablo wrote: »
    Dublin is the only proper city in the Rep. of Ireland. We are a country with a population of 4.5 million. Why are you comparing it to cities in Australia?

    :confused:

    Because it depends entirely on your definition of what qualifies as a "city". We are, as you said, a small country of 4.5 million people, therefore any large urban area (100,000+ people) could reasonable be called a city by our standards. Depending on the comparative population of other, larger nations however Dublin could be categorised similarly to how you categorise Cork and Limerick, hence my comparison of Dublin to Melbourne. I thought it was a fairly obvious point but I guess I wasn't clear enough the first time round.

    I confess I also find Dublin-centric attitudes amusing having lived abroad in much larger cities.


  • #298
    mikemac1
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    A culchie will attend a nightclub that plays the national anthem at the end of the night

    Never seen this in Dublin or Galway

    Tis the done thing in the midlands


  • #299
    ElizabethDante
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭ElizabethDante


    I think being a culchie/townie just has to do with where you are in the country.

    I'm from a town but call others from the country - culchies.

    But saying that many call me a culchie when I go to the cities.

    Maybe it's more to do with attitude and your bringing up?

    Or maybe if your Irish your just classed as a culchie. Except for people who grew up in the heart of Dublin. In the big city!


  • #300
    ElizabethDante
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭ElizabethDante


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    A culchie will attend a nightclub that plays the national anthem at the end of the night

    Never seen this in Dublin or Galway

    Tis the done thing in the midlands

    Not at all, sure I've been in nightclubs throughout the north-west and the east and they even do that as a sign the club in closing in Drogheda!

    I think it just depends on the club/crowd/atmosphere etc


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  • #301
    losthorizon
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    Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »
    Surely however, you can recognize how somebody growing up in Cork city centre has more in common with somebody from Dublin than with somebody like me who grew up in the countryside?

    Cork is a city but excuse me it has nothing in common with Dublin thank you very much!


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