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LW RECEPTION

  • 15-11-2012 9:59am
    #1
    decies
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,474 ✭✭✭


    In Waterford love cricket on five live sports extra, out of contrast I just tried LW it had shocking buzzing on it . Has LW reception got worse recently!!


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  • #2
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    It can vary greatly, I'm sure there is something electrical creating a layer of noise in the cities environs which comes and goes.

    Where are you?


  • #3
    LordSutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Town centres, hotels, train stations, petrol stations all play havoc with my BBC LW reception, once clear the signal picks up again!


  • #4
    decies
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,474 ✭✭✭decies


    mike65 wrote: »
    It can vary greatly, I'm sure there is something electrical creating a layer of noise in the cities environs which comes and goes.

    Where are you?
    Newtown road area can hardly pick up radio 4 LW , normally listen on smartphone anyways , but just noticed major noise going up and down the band.


  • #5
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Sometimes there is something that sounds almost mechanical, a thrumming which blots everything bar RTE1


  • #6
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,551 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Five live is on mw... Generally quite poor reception on 693


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  • #7
    coylemj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,492 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    MYOB wrote: »
    Five live is on mw... Generally quite poor reception on 693

    It varies from hour to hour, I have 693 and 909 programmed on two buttons on the car radio and I just flip between the two depending on which is better at any given time.

    The main transmitters which we would be picking up over here would be Droitwich (693 kHz, 150kW) 25 kms SW of Birmingham and Moorside Edge (909 kHz, 200 kW), 28 kms NE of Manchester.

    Lisnagarvey near the Sprucefield shopping Centre in Lisburn transmits the 909 kHz signal, it's a 10 kW transmitter.

    On the east coast you can also pick up a transmitter (Tywyn, 1kW) on the Welsh Irish Sea coast, roughly in the centre of Cardigan Bay, it transmits R5 Live on 990 kHz - that's not a typo, nine, nine, zero.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/reception/transmitters/radio/medium_long_wave.shtml


  • #8
    bob50
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭bob50


    coylemj wrote: »
    It varies from hour to hour, I have 693 and 909 programmed on two buttons on the car radio and I just flip between the two depending on which is better at any given time.

    The main transmitters which we would be picking up over here would be Droitwich (693 kHz, 150kW) 25 kms SW of Birmingham and Moorside Edge (909 kHz, 200 kW), 28 kms NE of Manchester.

    Lisnagarvey near the Sprucefield shopping Centre in Lisburn transmits the 909 kHz signal, it's a 10 kW transmitter.

    On the east coast you can also pick up a transmitter (Tywyn, 1kW) on the Welsh Irish Sea coast, roughly in the centre of Cardigan Bay, it transmits R5 Live on 990 kHz - that's not a typo, nine, nine, zero.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/reception/transmitters/radio/medium_long_wave.shtml


    Many thanks Coylemj ,
    Great post i always listen to 5live both in the car and at home i use 909 and get good reception. in Crumlin and Tallaght

    i also listen to talksport on 1089 but signal is not as strong

    Love the medium wave


  • #9
    radia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 360 ✭✭radia


    I've been listening to BBC radio 4 on 198 LW for some time, but for the past couple of days the reception has been appalling. Anyone else found the same or is it just local to me? There was a rumour at one point that they'd be discontinuing the 198 LW service so I'm wondering if that's what happened, but I can't see confirmation of it anywhere.


  • #10
    Fuzzy Clam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,293 ✭✭✭Fuzzy Clam


    radia wrote: »
    I've been listening to BBC radio 4 on 198 LW for some time, but for the past couple of days the reception has been appalling. Anyone else found the same or is it just local to me? There was a rumour at one point that they'd be discontinuing the 198 LW service so I'm wondering if that's what happened, but I can't see confirmation of it anywhere.
    I think the BBC stated that once the existing stock of spare valves were used up, the LW service would be discontinued. May be a few years yet to go.
    Reception here in the midlands is same as usual,. Keep in mind that almost all modern electronics like battery chargers, unfiltered PC power supplies, etc interfere with MW/LW reception.


  • #11
    Rock Solid
    Registered Users Posts: 416 ✭✭Rock Solid


    I was on holiday near Malaga this year and had a long wave digital pll radio with me, I was able too hear Rte one on 252 LW at night after sunset there was also another station on same frequency but Rte seemed stronger, when I went down past Barcelona it was worse and the other station grew stronger, BBC Radio 4 on 198 LW was very clear, also on the west of France Rte is clear on 252 LW


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  • #12
    Justfolk
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭Justfolk


    I'm on the other side of the Atlantic, in eastern Newfoundland. Except for local navigational beacons, there've never been any LW stations in my own region.

    Twenty-odd years ago, in late afternoons and early evenings, I used to receive LW broadcast stations from Ireland, Britain, Germany and France. This was only when the days got short, say early November until February. This year, I have been checking since a month ago (late October) and have not received any signal at all.

    I'll keep checking, and I hope the broadcasters do not shut down the remaining stations. A little power can go a long way, even on the LW bands.


  • #13
    [Deleted User]
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    Rock Solid wrote: »
    I was on holiday near Malaga this year and had a long wave digital pll radio with me, I was able too hear Rte one on 252 LW at night after sunset there was also another station on same frequency but Rte seemed stronger, when I went down past Barcelona it was worse and the other station grew stronger, BBC Radio 4 on 198 LW was very clear, also on the west of France Rte is clear on 252 LW

    There's an Algerian station on 252 and this plays havoc with RTÉ at night in some parts.


  • #14
    twinklerunner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 902 ✭✭✭twinklerunner


    bob50 wrote: »
    Many thanks Coylemj ,
    Great post i always listen to 5live both in the car and at home i use 909 and get good reception. in Crumlin and Tallaght

    i also listen to talksport on 1089 but signal is not as strong

    Love the medium wave

    I find the reception on 990 better that 909 in Dublin


  • #15
    Antenna
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,330 ✭✭✭Antenna


    coylemj wrote: »
    On the east coast you can also pick up a transmitter (Tywyn, 1kW) on the Welsh Irish Sea coast, roughly in the centre of Cardigan Bay, it transmits R5 Live on 990 kHz - that's not a typo, nine, nine, zero.
    twinklerunner wrote: »
    I find the reception on 990 better that 909 in Dublin

    The 990kHz transmitter is now run on substantially lower power than in the past (since you posted this). I assume this power reduction was done to get BBC 5 Live listeners switch to DAB from a degraded MW signal, in the area of Wales mainly covered by that transmitter. Around the Cardigan Bay area of Wales probably has relatively good DAB coverage from the Blaenplwyf transmitter and others. 990 is hardly a good daytime signal on the east coast of Ireland now.


  • #16
    SimonMaher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,060 ✭✭✭SimonMaher


    For BBC Radio 4, I find that (in the car at least) that 720khz MW is better than 198Khz LW. It is a relay of the Long Wave version (so it has the cricket!). Gets a bit ropey at night but through the day and around Dublin I find it surprisingly good. As Antenna above says, reception of BBC 5 Live on 990khz has deteriorated considerably in the last year or two.

    Simon


  • #17
    Antenna
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,330 ✭✭✭Antenna


    I don't think it has been mentioned on this board but there are going to be considerable outages to the main BBC R4 LW transmitter on 198kHz

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/reception/news/news_item30.html
    From Saturday 29th March until June/July, 2014 the BBC Radio 4 LW Droitwich transmitter will be subject to daily shutdowns between 10:00-17:30hrs. As the work will take place between 10.00 and 17.30 the long-wave only Yesterday in Parliament and Daily Service programmes will continue to be transmitted normally each day. In addition, we have planned the work to ensure Test Match Special coverage is not affected. However, the LW only shipping forecast at 12.01 will not be available.

    As some people may know there are also two lower powered BBC R4 LW transmitters also on the same frequency in Scotland in a SFN, the nearer of the two, a transmitter roughly between Glasgow and Edinburgh, will to some extent be useable in Ireland especially in northern parts of the country, when the main 198kHz transmitter is off.
    http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/westerglen/index.php


  • #18
    Mr. Rabbit
    Registered Users Posts: 778 ✭✭✭Mr. Rabbit


    How far into the ROI does the 720 kHz MW transmitter at Lisnagarvey (near Lisburn) get ?

    There's also the Radio 4 MW transmitter on 774 kHz near Enniskillen.


  • #19
    twinklerunner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 902 ✭✭✭twinklerunner


    Mr. Rabbit wrote: »
    How far into the ROI does the 720 kHz MW transmitter at Lisnagarvey (near Lisburn) get ?

    There's also the Radio 4 MW transmitter on 774 kHz near Enniskillen.

    It's coming in loud and clear here in north Co Kildare


  • #20
    ford fiesta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,608 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    I find that car and home radios post 1997 are not great for MW and LW.

    Get an old radio with these frequencies and the reception can be 100% and LOUD!


  • #21
    Antenna
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,330 ✭✭✭Antenna


    Karsini wrote: »
    There's an Algerian station on 252 and this plays havoc with RTÉ at night in some parts.

    Algeria 252kHz is reported off air since March 17th !, do not know why, but this means RTE currently has a very clear channel at night on 252 for long distance reception.

    I checked myself last night here in the south of the country, no sign of Algeria on 252 under RTE


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  • #22
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    Antenna wrote: »
    Algeria 252kHz is reported off air since March 17th !, do not know why, but this means RTE currently has a very clear channel at night on 252 for long distance reception.

    I checked myself last night here in the south of the country, no sign of Algeria on 252 under RTE

    This, maybe?

    http://www.transradio.de/index.php/en/news/154-tda-tipaza

    Looks like a TX upgrade.


  • #23
    Greenman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,962 ✭✭✭Greenman


    Antenna wrote: »
    Algeria 252kHz is reported off air since March 17th !, do not know why, but this means RTE currently has a very clear channel at night on 252 for long distance reception.

    I checked myself last night here in the south of the country, no sign of Algeria on 252 under RTE


    Wish Algeria would move freq or go QRT.


  • #24
    madmaggie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭madmaggie


    radia wrote: »
    I've been listening to BBC radio 4 on 198 LW for some time, but for the past couple of days the reception has been appalling. Anyone else found the same or is it just local to me? There was a rumour at one point that they'd be discontinuing the 198 LW service so I'm wondering if that's what happened, but I can't see confirmation of it anywhere.

    I listen to BBC Radio Four in the south east, no trouble with reception. I find some electrical appliances such as my broadband router can interfere with it. Keep the radio well away from other electrical items and try moving it in different directions. My 60 year old valve radio picks up LW no bother!


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