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Tipping the takeaway delivery guy

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    #92
    Anyone
    Registered Users Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Anyone


    rgmmg wrote: »
    How would they know if you are going to tip?

    If you are a regular customer then they know.


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    #93
    Nyan Cat
    Registered Users Posts: 313 ✭✭Nyan Cat


    'I tip to get food faster / so they don't spit in my food / take some chips' etc. that's another thing I often see. If anyone ANYONE would do those things (even purposely drag their feet at delivering food out of pettiness) then they don't deserve the job. I know it doesn't pay well unless it's a busy night. But I reiterate that it's between the employer and the employee. It's not the customers fault or up to them to top up people's wages.

    Very few people I know get take out regular. It's a rare treat due to the cost. It's not like they're flush with money.

    It feels a bit like they hold your food to ransome when the old chip spitting excuse comes out.


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    #94
    lubo_moravcik
    Registered Users Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭lubo_moravcik


    rgmmg wrote: »
    How would they know if you are going to tip?

    I always consider tipping those in the service sector - by which I mean bar staff, restaurant personnel, take away delivery folk and taxi drivers etc.

    I worked through uni as a lounge boy and the only tip I got was to use a black binliner on my arm when I was unblocking toilets. I then worked as a bank cashier for a stint and concluded that a lot of folk out there are complete ba*tards, treating me like sh1te on their shoe.

    As a result, I ordinarily tip. A small/tiny amount to make a point if required and vice-versa to foster positive reinforcement. If you can't throw a euro or two at a delivery driver then, sorry, you're truly a scabby git.
    Only takes one delivery, after that you're either known as a tipper or non tipper, it's upto you if you want your food hot or lukewarm :) The three doors the driver went to before you sure got theirs warm anyway


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    #95
    rgmmg
    Registered Users Posts: 537 ✭✭✭rgmmg


    lubo_moravcik wrote: »
    Only takes one delivery, after that you're either known as a tipper or non tipper, it's upto you if you want your food hot or lukewarm :) The three doors the driver went to before you sure got theirs warm anyway

    Alternatively, you give them €10 the first time and they come back Pavlov's dog style the next 30 times.


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    #96
    lubo_moravcik
    Registered Users Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭lubo_moravcik


    rgmmg wrote: »
    Alternatively, you give them €10 the first time and they come back Pavlov's dog style the next 30 times.
    Well there's common sense, a couple of quid just to keep them interested and you can guarantee your food will arrive nice and warm with a smile (or you're ringing the wrong place)


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    #97
    KTRIC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    I don't tip because society says I have to. If they really put forth the effort,
    I'll give 'em somethin' extra. But this tipping automatically, it's for the birds. As far as I'm concerned, they're just doin' their job.


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    #98
    rgmmg
    Registered Users Posts: 537 ✭✭✭rgmmg


    lubo_moravcik wrote: »
    Well there's common sense, a couple of quid just to keep them interested and you can guarantee your food will arrive nice and warm with a smile (or you're ringing the wrong place)

    Not quite - if everyone tips the same then where's his/her incentive to choose you ahead of another order?


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    #99
    leggit
    Registered Users Posts: 936 ✭✭✭leggit


    I know a few lads that used to deliver and they'd do a couple of deliverys at a time, always said that they knew who tipped and who didn't and guess who'd get their food last...

    As for me, if the bill is something like €19.70 and I hand them a €20 they won't be getting much of a tip because I couldn't be bothered looking for change.

    Never more than €2 though as long as I get enough change back from what I gave them.


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    #100
    Leo Dowling
    Closed Accounts Posts: 322 ✭✭Leo Dowling


    Nyan Cat wrote: »
    'I tip to get food faster / so they don't spit in my food / take some chips' etc. that's another thing I often see. If anyone ANYONE would do those things (even purposely drag their feet at delivering food out of pettiness) then they don't deserve the job. I know it doesn't pay well unless it's a busy night. But I reiterate that it's between the employer and the employee. It's not the customers fault or up to them to top up people's wages.

    I'm not sure there are many people out there who would spit in food, no matter how much they dislike the person.

    On the issue of how hot the food is, that can certainly be affected. I worked as a delivery driver when I was in college and I didn't have an employer, I was self-employed and had a contract with the pizza place. All of the drivers worked on this basis, the companies do this so that they don't have to pay minimum wage. There were as many as ten drivers on at one time and you can bet that if a regular tipper's name comes up on the screen for delivery it will get picked up and delivered before a non-tipper's pizza.


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    #101
    The Snipe
    Registered Users Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭The Snipe


    I often would yes, depending on where I'm getting it (If its my local chinese, I would as I know the delivery guy for years) and how long it takes to come (if its pizza it can sometimes take ages!) Also if there is only like 50c or whatnot in coinage being handed back to me, I'll tell him keep it and just take the notes!


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    #102
    Kirby
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    I don't believe in tipping at all. It's a con. I'm not going to give somebody extra money for doing their job to the bare minimum level.

    But I always tip delivery drivers. It's in your own best interest. When I order my food I want it to arrive quickly and hot. If you are known as a tipper, it always is. I give 2 euro every time I order in and am known as a tipper so never have any problem. It's not alot but it gets you a better service, so I do it.

    It's just common sense. However I don't tip in any other form. Just takeaway.


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    #103
    jammstarr
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    I'm being taken advantage of it seems: I always tip but don't get fast deliveries nor get the food piping hot :(


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    #104
    mikemac1
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    lubo_moravcik wrote: »
    If you tipped then the food would be warmer and get to you quicker.

    Local chipper here has about four different drivers working different nights

    So unless they all talk to each other, you'd have to tip all of them to get special service


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    #105
    quietriot
    Closed Accounts Posts: 347 ✭✭quietriot


    When I was younger, I did deliveries as a student job for an indian takeaway. I've always tipped delivery drivers, from long before I worked as one until now, long after I worked as one.

    However, my experience of working as one was eye opening. It is truly remarkable how well you remember an address. Although, having said that, we were busy enough that at one point I maintained a list in the car of houses that didn't tip. It's no myth, customers who don't tip would be fúcked with whenever they ordered next and those who tipped were given precedence whenever possible also.

    On a busy night you may have 4 or 5 deliveries in the car with you at any one time, each of which has ordered at a different time to one another generally. In theory, you should go to the one that ordered first, unless someone else is on the way to that person. However, in practice it was a case of having a flick through the deliveries and finding the people you liked, delivering to them first and then delivering to the rest. It's not a case of being angry that you weren't tipped, it's being angry that your time has been spent on someone who doesn't tip, while it could have been spent on someone who does, and the majority do.

    If the "rest" involved a customer known to not tip, it gave you ample time to basically ruin their meal. I'm genuinely shocked that some people kept ordering regularly after the things that were done to them.

    Repeat customers are recognised and particularly by address so there's no way I'd let myself get on the bad side of drivers from a company whose food I liked. A euro or two ensures I get the food the fastest, the hottest and without having been messed with, so I'm quite happy to pay it.


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    #106
    lividduck
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    I always tip the delivery guy, lets face it its a tough old job that most of wouldnt want to do.


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    #107
    quietriot
    Closed Accounts Posts: 347 ✭✭quietriot


    lividduck wrote: »
    I always tip the delivery guy, lets face it its a tough old job that most of wouldnt want to do.
    I'll be honest, speaking as someone who has done it, the only drivers who have it tough are the dominos drivers. They're paid fúck all and are made work until all hours of the night. They do get free food, unlike a lot of drivers, but it's not worth it.

    It's good craic a lot of the time on the weekends when it's busy. During the week is just a waste of time, but unless it's snowing or similar, it's definitely not "tough".


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    #108
    k.p.h
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    Food doesn't get delivered much down the country, people don't tip much so no one wants the job as the pay hardly covers the costs.

    When you think about it, cost of fuel and time spent..! I'd pay a tenner for people to **** off and leave me along for a few hours, delivery drivers have the exact opposite of that, on call for a few hours for a measly few bob.

    Don't be surprised if you don't tip and the day comes when there is no delivery service and you have to get up off your fat asses to go collect your own grub..!


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    #109
    Doc Ruby
    Registered Users Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    quietriot wrote: »
    When I was younger, I did deliveries as a student job for an indian takeaway. I've always tipped delivery drivers, from long before I worked as one until now, long after I worked as one.

    However, my experience of working as one was eye opening. It is truly remarkable how well you remember an address. Although, having said that, we were busy enough that at one point I maintained a list in the car of houses that didn't tip. It's no myth, customers who don't tip would be fúcked with whenever they ordered next and those who tipped were given precedence whenever possible also.

    On a busy night you may have 4 or 5 deliveries in the car with you at any one time, each of which has ordered at a different time to one another generally. In theory, you should go to the one that ordered first, unless someone else is on the way to that person. However, in practice it was a case of having a flick through the deliveries and finding the people you liked, delivering to them first and then delivering to the rest. It's not a case of being angry that you weren't tipped, it's being angry that your time has been spent on someone who doesn't tip, while it could have been spent on someone who does, and the majority do.

    If the "rest" involved a customer known to not tip, it gave you ample time to basically ruin their meal. I'm genuinely shocked that some people kept ordering regularly after the things that were done to them.

    Repeat customers are recognised and particularly by address so there's no way I'd let myself get on the bad side of drivers from a company whose food I liked. A euro or two ensures I get the food the fastest, the hottest and without having been messed with, so I'm quite happy to pay it.
    Good thing its such a crap job that the few times I do order out, I never get the same delivery drivers due to staff turnover.


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    #110
    HappyBalance
    Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭HappyBalance


    No way should you tip... It has only become popular due to US influence and this is due to that level of work being so lowly paid over there.


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    #111
    Doc Ruby
    Registered Users Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    bfocusd wrote: »
    I've tried myself with ordering it in the restaurant and bringing it home, its never as warm, I even pre heat the car!
    Insulated baggies, so much for the cold food plan A.


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    #112
    J Bourke
    Closed Accounts Posts: 105 ✭✭J Bourke


    Some views here remind me of this:



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    #113
    ebixa82
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭ebixa82


    It is pretty clear that the majority of people who work or have worked as delivery people in the past are corrupt scumbags.

    No more than any corrupt politician, anybody who puts the welfare of one person over another for monetary gain is a scumbag.

    Delivering food is similar to being a taxi driver. You do fcuk all bar drive around all night. You need no qualifications or skills bar a driver's license. Why do you feel you need to be paid above the minimum wage or whatever financial agreement you've had with the take away.

    There is no justification in allowing one person's dinner, which they have paid for (including a delivery charge), to go cold just so you can potentially earn an extra euro or two.

    What kind of scumbags are out there at all?

    Total fcukin scumbags.


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    #114
    giant_midget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭giant_midget


    quietriot wrote: »
    When I was younger, I did deliveries as a student job for an indian takeaway. I've always tipped delivery drivers, from long before I worked as one until now, long after I worked as one.

    However, my experience of working as one was eye opening. It is truly remarkable how well you remember an address. Although, having said that, we were busy enough that at one point I maintained a list in the car of houses that didn't tip. It's no myth, customers who don't tip would be fúcked with whenever they ordered next and those who tipped were given precedence whenever possible also.

    On a busy night you may have 4 or 5 deliveries in the car with you at any one time, each of which has ordered at a different time to one another generally. In theory, you should go to the one that ordered first, unless someone else is on the way to that person. However, in practice it was a case of having a flick through the deliveries and finding the people you liked, delivering to them first and then delivering to the rest. It's not a case of being angry that you weren't tipped, it's being angry that your time has been spent on someone who doesn't tip, while it could have been spent on someone who does, and the majority do.

    If the "rest" involved a customer known to not tip, it gave you ample time to basically ruin their meal. I'm genuinely shocked that some people kept ordering regularly after the things that were done to them.

    Repeat customers are recognised and particularly by address so there's no way I'd let myself get on the bad side of drivers from a company whose food I liked. A euro or two ensures I get the food the fastest, the hottest and without having been messed with, so I'm quite happy to pay it.


    So you are saying that unless you get a tip you would have left that certain delivery until last even tho the person who ordered it payed a delivery charge on top of the charge for food? Typical delivery driver/taxi driver attitude you have there.

    By the way the guy who cooked it should be getting the tip, not the min wage failure who delivered it.


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    #115
    Standard Toaster
    Registered Users Posts: 10,254 ✭✭✭✭Standard Toaster


    Only if I get a lift home in the takeaway car too. Otherwise no dice.
    Chicken balls ain't cheap yano.


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    #116
    Barely Hedged
    Closed Accounts Posts: 992 ✭✭✭Barely Hedged


    America - tip because it's a free market economy.

    Ireland - dont tip because it's a quasi socialist economy.

    Jesus, what's the difficulty?


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    #117
    rgmmg
    Registered Users Posts: 537 ✭✭✭rgmmg


    ebixa82 wrote: »
    It is pretty clear that the majority of people who work or have worked as delivery people in the past are corrupt scumbags.

    No more than any corrupt politician, anybody who puts the welfare of one person over another for monetary gain is a scumbag.

    Delivering food is similar to being a taxi driver. You do fcuk all bar drive around all night. You need no qualifications or skills bar a driver's license. Why do you feel you need to be paid above the minimum wage or whatever financial agreement you've had with the take away.

    There is no justification in allowing one person's dinner, which they have paid for (including a delivery charge), to go cold just so you can potentially earn an extra euro or two.

    What kind of scumbags are out there at all?

    Total fcukin scumbags.

    Scumbags? :D A tip is discretionary. If you don't want to pay it don't. The correlation of cold food to tips isn't 1. Probably.


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    #118
    ebixa82
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭ebixa82


    rgmmg wrote: »
    Scumbags? :D A tip is discretionary. If you don't want to pay it don't. The correlation of cold food to tips isn't 1. Probably.

    But why should you have to tolerate cold food just because you don't? Virtually every delivery person on here has said they positively discriminate against those who don't tip.


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    #119
    rgmmg
    Registered Users Posts: 537 ✭✭✭rgmmg


    ebixa82 wrote: »
    But why should you have to tolerate cold food just because you don't? Virtually every delivery person on here has said they positively discriminate against those who don't tip.

    As I said, the correlation isn't one. If you're not happy, complain.


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    #120
    cloptrop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭cloptrop


    Leo Dowling wrote: »
    I'm not sure there are many people out there who would spit in food, no matter how much they dislike the person.

    On the issue of how hot the food is, that can certainly be affected. I worked as a delivery driver when I was in college and I didn't have an employer, I was self-employed and had a contract with the pizza place. All of the drivers worked on this basis, the companies do this so that they don't have to pay minimum wage. There were as many as ten drivers on at one time and you can bet that if a regular tipper's name comes up on the screen for delivery it will get picked up and delivered before a non-tipper's pizza.

    do these drivers meet with their accountants once a month to pay tax. dont think hey are self employed , they are getting paid in the hand . this contract is a way for the pizza place to cover itself for not paying your tax , landing you in trouble if they ever get caught .
    so heres the second way they screw everyone . first one was paying you such **** wages and tricking you into believing its up to the customer to pay you, you should be spunking in your bosses food


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    #121
    ebixa82
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭ebixa82


    rgmmg wrote: »
    As I said, the correlation isn't one. If you're not happy, complain.

    No point complaining as it would be impossible to prove they are showing preferential treatment to tippers.


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