MTV

klose · 29-12-2010 1:52pm #1

Music television.

Now I propose it be called simply "tv" because of the distinct lack of music on it. The shows that have taken over are sheer muck!

Also I only have MTV, none of the MTV hits, bass etc..

Anybody else? And yes, cool story, bro.

hidinginthebush · 29-12-2010 1:57pm

it should be re-named "pregnant teen orientated show tv"

Plug · 29-12-2010 1:57pm

Masturbation TV.

Biggins · 29-12-2010 1:58pm

Its fallen far, far from its original format.
Times change I accept but MTV has gone complete off direction altogether.

liah · 29-12-2010 1:59pm

Is there no Irish equivalent of MTV?

In Canada we had (probably still have?) Much Music (plus MTV, of course) and it always just seemed.. better, more music and less random crap, and it wasn't just pop, either, it was a really good proper mix of stuff, could go from Pearl Jam to Rage Against the Machine to Shaggy to Led Zeppelin to Eminem to Insane Clown Posse to Shania Twain to Queen if you were so inclined :pac:

Then again, I haven't watched either in at least 6 years so I've no idea what's on these days..

Biggins · 29-12-2010 2:00pm

Its just become another light entertainment station with occassionally, a bit of music thrown in!

ejmaztec · 29-12-2010 2:00pm

As there's no music left, they had to fill the schedules with sh1t.

Wurly · 29-12-2010 2:00pm

MTV in the 90's was brilliant. I loved it. It's complete diarrhea now.

This was my fave.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc2VxRCeOaw

Dravokivich · 29-12-2010 2:01pm

liah wrote: »

Is there no Irish equivalent of MTV?

1 of them channel 6 / city channel's things does music video's through out the night.

That's the closest there is. Wouldn't be much point putting 1 together for an Irish broadcast itself as there's so many avail already...

ejmaztec wrote: »

As there's no music left, they had to fill the schedules with sh1t.

it's all gone to shíte since Roy Orbinson died tbh...

antodeco · 29-12-2010 2:03pm

In fairness, its been like this for over 10 years. It used to be a pure music station, then over the years the music faded out and was replaced by the odd music video. Now, its for all of the "other" pop culture programs. You have to look at the other MTV channels for music (which I understand) MTV Rock, Dance, Bass, etc are all grand. Just like VH1 etc. I suppose MTV(1) is their money making part of their network.

liah · 29-12-2010 2:06pm

I dunno, I think it'd actually be a really good opportunity for a lot of undiscovered talent in this country if someone made an MTV for Ireland. Ireland's absolutely chalk full of undiscovered musical talent just waiting for a break.

Of course they'd show "mainstream" non-Irish stuff too but even just a spot once or a couple of times a week for a feature on new and upcoming bands, let them get exposure, etc.. it could even get pretty big.

Also, Roy Orbison > Elvis.

Had to be said. (I was named after an Orbison song.

)

klose · 29-12-2010 2:08pm

I did love when they had south park, beevis and butthead, and of course celebrity deathmatch they were all a great laugh. The music was always brilliant on it bit of everything really. I can't exactly remember when it began to happen though, can anybody?

angel01 · 29-12-2010 2:19pm

All the music channels are woeful these days, I have taken to watching vidzone on the PS3 but even then, it isn't randomised enough so you get to see the same videos reappearing every so often...

Wertz · 29-12-2010 2:21pm

Trí wrote: »

MTV in the 90's was brilliant. I loved it. It's complete diarrhea now.

Early 90's sitting up till stupid hours of the morning watching MTV round in a mate's house (too poor for satellite TV in mine) holds some good memories for me...

Always loved this programme link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-QTJuQhnMU

Can't see it on my current sky package, but I've seen it on and can see what's on the epg...where's the f*ckin' music? They expect people to pay for crap like the hills or whatever reality bullsh*t they're churning out?
Major fail in the boardrooms that decided any of that was a good move.
Youtube kind of makes the station obsolete, but that said, MTV were sh*t for a long time before youtube was even dreamt of...

Dravokivich · 29-12-2010 2:22pm

liah wrote: »

I dunno, I think it'd actually be a really good opportunity for a lot of undiscovered talent in this country if someone made an MTV for Ireland. Ireland's absolutely chalk full of undiscovered musical talent just waiting for a break.

Of course they'd show "mainstream" non-Irish stuff too but even just a spot once or a couple of times a week for a feature on new and upcoming bands, let them get exposure, etc.. it could even get pretty big.

Well, dont really need a TV Station for that, there's plenty of Radio Stations.

They do have a quota that they need to reach to play records produced in Ireland, only problem with that, is a lot of foreign artist have been recording and producing in Ireland over the last 15 years and because of that, they are able to be put within that quota.

T'is a shame really because I recall when Phantom started out they used to play loads of stuff by new Irish bands. Don't think they do that as much anymore...

T'is clearly something Nova should look into doing as well...

Fúck man... you could easily produce a twice a week showcase on that...

liah wrote: »

Also, Roy Orbison > Elvis.

Had to be said. (I was named after an Orbison song. )

T'is all well and good being biased, I was brought up on both :P

Sea Sharp · 29-12-2010 2:26pm

You need to get one of the digital TV services to watch the MTVs that play music.
MTV just plays TV shows, the others are for music. This is most likely because the crap they play pulls in more viewers, and is therefore more profitable, than playing random music all day.

Turtyturd · 29-12-2010 2:28pm

liah wrote: »

Ireland's absolutely chalk full of undiscovered musical talent just waiting for a break.

I always thought that saying was 'chock full of...'

liah · 29-12-2010 2:34pm

Dravokivich wrote: »

Well, dont really need a TV Station for that, there's plenty of Radio Stations.

They do have a quota that they need to reach to play records produced in Ireland, only problem with that, is a lot of foreign artist have been recording and producing in Ireland over the last 15 years and because of that, they are able to be put within that quota.

T'is a shame really because I recall when Phantom started out they used to play loads of stuff by new Irish bands. Don't think they do that as much anymore...

T'is clearly something Nova should look into doing as well...

Fúck man... you could easily produce a twice a week showcase on that...

Video killed the radio star. It's all well and good that there's radio, but people don't pay that much attention to it as it's not as accessible. Yeah, you can get podcasts and things, but think about it-- most people these days are video-oriented, at least the younger generations. It would be far more sensible to start a video station as it would get far, far, far more exposure, and the artists would too after their videos got put up on YouTube.

Radio's great and all but it lost its influence at the dawn of MTV.

Ruu_Old · 29-12-2010 2:42pm

Ah I remember the short lived MTV Europe on Sky when we first got it, some cracking presenters then we had a bunch of Brits invade!

pablomakaveli · 29-12-2010 2:47pm

They should rename it to crappy reality shows tv (CRSTV) now.

I actually noticed on my sky box there is a channel called MTV shows. So not only do they only show reality shows on MTV1 they have another channel dedicated to the same thing.

Minstrel27 · 29-12-2010 2:48pm

Did MTV not drop Music Television from their logo? I know they did in the USA. Not so sure about here though.

article wrote:

Twenty-five years ago, MTV was best known for music videos starring Michael Jackson and Madonna. These days, its reigning queen is not a recording star at all but rather Nicole "Snooki" Polizzi, the rowdy party girl from the reality series "Jersey Shore."

So maybe it's not surprising that this week the 29-year-old network bowed to the inevitable and finally scraped the legend "Music Television" off its corporate logo.

The change was a belated acknowledgment of what has been obvious for years: MTV has evolved into a reality channel that occasionally runs programs that have to do with music.

But the shift is significant because, in an era of rapid technological change and microscopic attention spans, how networks identify themselves matters more than ever, experts say.

MTV "realized being 'music television' was too limiting," said Dave Howe, president of Syfy, home of such series as "Stargate Universe" and the now-defunct "Battlestar Galactica." Howe says the right brand is essential "to cut through the noise and clutter of the media explosion" bedeviling the TV industry.

And he should know. Last summer, his network underwent a controversial name change, from the Sci-Fi Channel to Syfy, a made-up word that Twitter users said looked more like the name of a mop or a gossip magazine than that of a cable network. One newspaper called it the "dumbest rebranding ever."

But Howe says the name change has reenergized the network and sharpened its identity. Because it referred to a well-established genre, "sci-fi" could not be trademark-protected, an important consideration for a network looking to establish a distinctive identity. Also, he said, sci-fi evoked images of "space, aliens and the future," turning off some viewers and advertisers.

"We totally expected there to be a backlash from core sci-fi fans," Howe said. But the shift has "far exceeded our expectations . . . . It's opened up the network to a broader range of viewers" and helped boost ratings.

For its part, MTV says viewers had moved beyond what the old logo said. "The people who watch it today, they don't refer to MTV as music television," MTV's head of marketing, Tina Exarhos, told The Times this week.

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/feb/13/entertainment/la-et-branding13-2010feb13

Rubik. · 29-12-2010 2:50pm

"The Real World" killed the video star.

RobbieTheRobber · 29-12-2010 2:53pm

liah wrote: »

Video killed the radio star. It's all well and good that there's radio, but people don't pay that much attention to it as it's not as accessible. Yeah, you can get podcasts and things, but think about it-- most people these days are video-oriented, at least the younger generations. It would be far more sensible to start a video station as it would get far, far, far more exposure, and the artists would too after their videos got put up on YouTube.

Radio's great and all but it lost its influence at the dawn of MTV.

We could argue that MTv lost its releveance with the dawn of the internet streaming media age.

No longer do we have to wiat for MTV to screen a new video we can log onto Youtube and watch it when we want as the artists will have uploaded it there first.

dr.bollocko · 29-12-2010 2:53pm

Moved from After hours.

liah · 29-12-2010 2:56pm

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

We could argue that MTv lost its releveance with the dawn of the internet streaming media age.

No longer do we have to wiat for MTV to screen a new video we can log onto Youtube and watch it when we want as the artists will have uploaded it there first.

Oh, I know, the MTV comment was solely to point out how long radio's been effectively dead for.

colinod0806 · 29-12-2010 5:20pm

and now they even have a channel called mtv shows as if thats not what mtv 1 has been for years:rolleyes:

Resi12 · 29-12-2010 5:37pm

liah wrote: »

Is there no Irish equivalent of MTV?

MTV UK is also MTV Ireland, it is a joint channel to serve both countries. I also don't get the hulabaloo about it not showing actual music anymore when it has about six sister channels all dedicated to doing just that.

Minstrel27 · 29-12-2010 8:57pm

The worst thing about it all is once upon a time Viacom had the best music channel on the planet. It was called VH2. Some idiot then decided to change that to MTV Flux and when that failed it turned into MTV 1 +1. What a shower of absolute stupid *****.

icdg · 30-12-2010 7:24pm

Minstrel27 wrote: »

Did MTV not drop Music Television from their logo? I know they did in the USA. Not so sure about here though.

Yep, they dropped it in North America a while back. They basically took a slice off the bottom of the logo, removing the "Music Television" and some of the "M". The original logo is still used in the rest of the world but not sure how long that will last.

Incidently I hate that name "Syfy". The announcers still pronounce it "Sci-Fi" but to me it should be pronounced "siffy". Its stupid and the channel isn't any better for the rebrand - Sky have most of the good sci-fi shows anyway. But that's OT.

If you're looking for Music Television, try MTV Hits. Its a lot like the "old" MTV. Unfortunately MTV UK & Ireland is just reality shows now. Personally I'd prefer VH-1 or VH-1 Classic.

bonerm · 30-12-2010 8:24pm

I used to like this show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXrCc2LM6Fw

I think once this and Beavis and Butthead ended that was enough for me. Certainly I had lost interest by the time wigger-shows such as Pimp My Ride first appeared.

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