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Samoa Joe & WWE etc

  • 26-05-2015 10:25am
    #1
    rovert
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭


    Happy to say I was ahead of the curve in posting about this arrangement between Joe and NXT:
    Ring of Honor announced on Twitter that Samoa Joe is returning to the promotion on June 20th. June 20th is the date of the promotion’s TV tapings following the Best in the World PPV. As previously reported, Joe’s deal with WWE allows him to work indy shows.

    Joe then followed up by posting:
    https://twitter.com/SamoaJoe/status/603014005163171840


Comments

  • #2
    LeeJM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,469 ✭✭✭LeeJM


    Maybe Joe can join the Bullet Club in RoH and then bring some "friends" to NXT! Now thats some real fantasy booking :cool:


  • #3
    Stereomaniac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,166 ✭✭✭Stereomaniac


    They could come and keep interfering in matches and people keep wondering is Finn Balor involved.


  • #4
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    Or they come to take out finn for leaving!


  • #5
    Stereomaniac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,166 ✭✭✭Stereomaniac


    Well, remember when Christian & Gangrel first appeared & it was uncertain if Edge was a member?


  • #6
    Omackeral
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    LeeJM wrote: »
    Maybe Joe can join the Bullet Club in RoH and then bring some "friends" to NXT! Now thats some real fantasy booking :cool:


    Ah stop being greedy ya sh*t! :p

    Devitt,KENTA,Steen,Generico,PAC and Joe. This is more than any of us prob ever expected. Also, Owens is feuding with John freakin' Cena of all people!


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  • #7
    LeeJM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,469 ✭✭✭LeeJM


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Ah stop being greedy ya sh*t! :p

    Devitt,KENTA,Steen,Generico,PAC and Joe. This is more than any of us prob ever expected. Also, Owens is feuding with John freakin' Cena of all people!

    It really is crazy when ya think about it. Seeing Joe working for RoH and WWE, is it possible they have a deal almost like the WWE ECW deal back in the 90's? Would make sense from a WWE stand point and probably in RoH's best interests too


  • #8
    gerrybbadd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    LeeJM wrote: »
    It really is crazy when ya think about it. Seeing Joe working for RoH and WWE, is it possible they have a deal almost like the WWE ECW deal back in the 90's? Would make sense from a WWE stand point and probably in RoH's best interests too

    I've been thinking there's some arrangement too, given that they've interviewed ROH personnel, and used ROH footage in the past. They regularly acknowledge ROH's existence too


  • #9
    LeeJM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,469 ✭✭✭LeeJM


    Paging Rovert! Rovert we need an answer. You got any inside scoop or has any deal ever been acknowledged or talked about?


  • #10
    Stereomaniac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,166 ✭✭✭Stereomaniac


    WWE have to know it doesn't hurt them if they acknowledge the existence of other companies.


  • #11
    rovert
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    LeeJM wrote: »
    Paging Rovert! Rovert we need an answer. You got any inside scoop or has any deal ever been acknowledged or talked about?

    I don't think any money is changing hands under the table. Obviously WWE hasn't squashed or gutted. ROH has changed hands 3 times ownership wise and is 13 years olds so the dynamic has changed a few times. WWE has done ROH various "solids"over the years. ROH is just respected that's all really.


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  • #12
    LeeJM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,469 ✭✭✭LeeJM


    rovert wrote: »
    I don't think any money is changing hands under the table. Obviously WWE hasn't squashed or gutted. ROH has changed hands 3 times ownership wise and is 13 years olds so the dynamic has changed a few times. WWE has done ROH various "solids"over the years. ROH is just respected that's all really.

    What "solids" have they done for them? All I can think of is Foley showing up in 03 or 04 and Im not even sure if he was under a contract then and Punk staying on for the "summer of Punk" after he'd signed his developmental deal


  • #13
    Palo Alto
    Registered Users Posts: 908 ✭✭✭Palo Alto


    They've used ROH footage in Punk/Bryan/Shield docs too.


  • #14
    A Brad Maddox Guy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭A Brad Maddox Guy


    They had an interview with Maria on their website a few months ago too. Did they mention ROH in that?


  • #15
    Jerichoholic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,585 ✭✭✭Jerichoholic


    Lesnar/Joe please


  • #16
    DM_7
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,412 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    Joe working at tv tapings was not something I expected. Are they looking at a full time deal now ROH got a decent tv opportunity?


  • #17
    Ageyev
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭Ageyev


    DM_7 wrote: »
    Joe working at tv tapings was not something I expected. Are they looking at a full time deal now ROH got a decent tv opportunity?

    Looks like he's already signed a main roster exclusive deal. http://pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/WWE_News_3/article_85367.shtml

    His t-shirt apparently sold well which was probably another factor.


  • #18
    ricero
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    Ageyev wrote: »
    Looks like he's already signed a main roster exclusive deal. http://pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/WWE_News_3/article_85367.shtml

    His t-shirt apparently sold well which was probably another factor.

    Have to say I'm shocked by wwe these days and especially given Joe a run in the main roster.

    Dare i say it but things are looking good in wwe and they look like they know what their doing.


  • #19
    Chain Smoker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Chain Smoker


    I felt Joe was being brought in to occupy a role similar to rhyno as a sort of trial thing, honestly I still do and think he's been incredibly lucky with wwe so far; his abrupt move to the forefront of nxt largely coming down to the run of injuries they've had and his main roster contract being largely due to the destination america deal with roh calling for a contract rewrite.
    Not saying he doesn't deserve it, but it's awfully fast and surely must cause issues with the guys toiling away in nxt for ages (eg. how long ago was uhaa nation signed? Has he even debuted?)


  • #20
    Whosthis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Whosthis


    Chain Smoker wrote: »
    I honestly felt Joe

    That's nice, tell us more about these feelings.


  • #21
    brianregan09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,483 ✭✭✭brianregan09


    Chain Smoker wrote: »
    I felt Joe was being brought in to occupy a role similar to rhyno as a sort of trial thing, honestly I still do and think he's been incredibly lucky with wwe so far; his abrupt move to the forefront of nxt largely coming down to the run of injuries they've had and his main roster contract being largely due to the destination america deal with roh calling for a contract rewrite.
    Not saying he doesn't deserve it, but it's awfully fast and surely must cause issues with the guys toiling away in nxt for ages (eg. how long ago was uhaa nation signed? Has he even debuted?)


    No disrespect to Uhaa in particular and actually most of the NXT guys you mention Joe has been on US National TV for the last couple of years with TNA he's a known name where as most non smarks wouldn't have a clue who Uhaa, Tyler Breeze , Corbin and the likes of them are


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  • #22
    nasty_crash
    Registered Users Posts: 950 ✭✭✭nasty_crash


    yeah i kinda think to say that joe is lucky is a bit of a stretch - owens came in the same way really - albiet that he had one match before going after sami - Joe is a name - he is recognisable - and the fact that he isnt 3 years off tv will make him relevant to young americans who watch WWE & TNA - rather than the guys that are on TNA, then go to Japan for a few years etc only to come to WWE then!

    They are saying one of the reasons they moved to main roster contract is because of the level of sales on his t-shirt already..... Joe is from the same group as Punk, Bryan and he will excel if giving the chance!


  • #23
    A Rogue Hobo
    Registered Users Posts: 838 ✭✭✭A Rogue Hobo


    I think the only way he could be considered lucky is that he appears to have been the first person since Punk to keep his own name. It goes to show there is value in letting some of the more established wrestlers on keeping the name they built up for themselves. If Joe had shown up with some "Joey of Samoa" merch as opposed to "Samoa Joe" merch I can guarantee those sales wouldn't have been as impressive.


  • #24
    nasty_crash
    Registered Users Posts: 950 ✭✭✭nasty_crash


    must have been able to keep his name cos of the P/t contract they initially put him on!


  • #25
    Chain Smoker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Chain Smoker


    brianregan09 wrote: »
    No disrespect to Uhaa in particular and actually most of the NXT guys you mention Joe has been on US National TV for the last couple of years with TNA he's a known name where as most non smarks wouldn't have a clue who Uhaa, Tyler Breeze , Corbin and the likes of them are

    Being a known name from TNA is something that would typically stand against you in the wwe though. I don't buy that wwe initially brought him in with the plan of a prominent spot on the main roster, I don't think Joe himself really would have expected to get one either (hence the somewhat experimental contact that he got instead).

    Not saying he doesn't deserve the opportunities, it's great to see things go well for him and styles after wasting years in tna. I could have easily seen it all going in a totally different direction with Joe and WWE if things panned out differently.


  • #26
    gimmick
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    Split from the news thread.


  • #27
    Whosthis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Whosthis


    gimmick wrote: »
    Split from the news thread.

    That went well!


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