Giro d'Italia 2015 - Stage 20: Saint Vincent - Sestriere unmasked spoilers

pelevin · 30-05-2015 3:56pm

MPFG wrote: »

Hesjedal , Uran , Stevie K and others have no team mates with them in the mountains

At no stage have they been involved in the overall GC fight for first where they might lose out on winning cos of a lack of a teammate. They just lose a place or two in the top 10 at worst. Even if it doesn't cost him at any stage, just the accumulated stress of being alone against Astana is something any rider could surely do without.

Talib Fiasco · 30-05-2015 3:57pm

Absolute fail from Astana...why would he wait for Aru? He should have pushed hard for the sake of the Giro...he must be feeling it a little bit now too

Morrisseeee · 30-05-2015 3:57pm

He'll catch them and go on and win the stage in epic fashion :eek:

spock. · 30-05-2015 3:59pm

Come on Hesjedal!
He deserves a stage win from this Giro

letape · 30-05-2015 4:01pm

Real pity having to see Landa wait for Aru but made sense for Astana.

Talib Fiasco · 30-05-2015 4:01pm

Come on Uran do something

pelevin · 30-05-2015 4:02pm

oconnpad wrote: »

seems that way alright, he'd bug the f*ck out of you just hanging there

Twould annoy the hell out of me I'd imagine all right

pelevin · 30-05-2015 4:04pm

I hope Kruiswijk or Hesjedal get the stage. Crisis looks over for Contador.

MPFG · 30-05-2015 4:04pm

pelevin wrote: »

At no stage have they been involved in the overall GC fight for first where they might lose out on winning cos of a lack of a teammate. They just lose a place or two in the top 10 at worst. Even if it doesn't cost him at any stage, just the accumulated stress of being alone against Astana is something any rider could surely do without.

Firstly everyone's race is hard for them and their goal is their pressure and they were riding to win too and have equal if not greater pressure from team, fans,etc

And secondly Contaodor has had a team ride for him until the mountains but the above other have had no one nearly all the time

When you are tired you are tired ....blaming the team wholly is rubbish...and an excuse

Contador is not invincible but the other day he believed his own press

I still think no matter the time he made the other day he lost too much energy that effected him today

Talib Fiasco · 30-05-2015 4:05pm

Landa to get blue as well as another stage win?

omri · 30-05-2015 4:06pm

So it took almost 3 weeks of racing with full commitment of the Astana team to "crack" Contador in stage 20 (although nothings over yet) ... not to mention he was riding with painful injury and had very little support from his team during the climbs. Chapeau mr Contador.

letape · 30-05-2015 4:06pm

spock. wrote: »

Come on Hesjedal!
He deserves a stage win from this Giro

Would be great to see him get top 5 also - will be touch and go for him with Trofimov

pelevin · 30-05-2015 4:07pm

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Absolute fail from Astana...why would he wait for Aru? He should have pushed hard for the sake of the Giro...he must be feeling it a little bit now too

Playing it safe for the stage? If Contador was in their place . . . Or the likes of Hesjedal, that they'd think for a second of waiting for a teammate.

letape · 30-05-2015 4:09pm

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Landa to get blue as well as another stage win?

Or Kruijswijk - he's second in that classification

Morrisseeee · 30-05-2015 4:11pm

Aru really pushing on, he has the stage at least

dastardly00 · 30-05-2015 4:11pm

Aru has the stage win for sure.

MPFG · 30-05-2015 4:15pm

Feel for Landa ...lost his KOM jersey and had to ride for Aru this whole Giro when he could be second

Talib Fiasco · 30-05-2015 4:16pm

Fantastic recovery and calmness from Contador...many others would have bonked completely

dastardly00 · 30-05-2015 4:17pm

Those sunglasses on Pirazzi are seriously fugly.

Daroxtar · 30-05-2015 4:18pm

GIFSoup

pelevin · 30-05-2015 4:20pm

MPFG wrote: »

Firstly everyone's race is hard for them and their goal is their pressure and they were riding to win too and have equal if not greater pressure from team, fans,etc

And secondly Contaodor has had a team ride for him until the mountains but the above other have had no one nearly all the time

When you are tired you are tired ....blaming the team wholly is rubbish...and an excuse

Contador is not invincible but the other day he believed his own press

I still think no matter the time he made the other day he lost too much energy that effected him today

Kruiswijk & Hesjedal had as much if not greater pressure to win than Contador? Surely you can't believe that.

TheBlaaMan · 30-05-2015 4:20pm

Nice classy touch from Kangert there at the end not to try to pip Contador to the line and instead with 300m to go he allows the Maglia Rosa a bit of space to take the plaudits from the crowd at the line.

I'd say Vino will be furious ..

dastardly00 · 30-05-2015 4:20pm

I'm not sure if Kruijswijk got enough KOM points to overtake Visconti?

dastardly00 · 30-05-2015 4:20pm

TheBlaaMan wrote: »

Nice classy touch from Kangert there at the end not to try to pip Contador to the line and instead with 300m to go he allows the Maglia Rosa a bit of space to take the plaudits from the crowd at the line.

I'd say Vino will be furious ..

Yeah it was a nice touch from Kangert.

MPFG · 30-05-2015 4:22pm

Contador is still the best in this Giro and is one tough cookie ...Congratulations to him

Hope he can recover and give us a great Tour battle against Froome, Nibali & Quintana

Morrisseeee · 30-05-2015 4:22pm

Can't see Contador winning the tour aswell, he's too old and after that tough Giro and injured shoulder, I can't see him having enough in the tank to win it.

MPFG · 30-05-2015 4:23pm

pelevin wrote: »

Kruiswijk & Hesjedal had as much if not greater pressure to win than Contador? Surely you can't believe that.

You have not read my post .....as much pressure to do their goal

and yes Hesedal is under alot of pressure

Talib Fiasco · 30-05-2015 4:24pm

Horrific from Astana...Landa could have got the stage as well as the mountains jersey yet it's more important for Aru to get another stage. Sooner the better that this year is up for Landa...deserves much more

dastardly00 · 30-05-2015 4:27pm

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Horrific from Astana...Landa could have got the stage as well as the mountains jersey yet it's more important for Aru to get another stage. Sooner the better that this year is up for Landa...deserves much more

Greg LeMond is saying that Astana should have called Landa back a lot earlier in order to help Aru's GC chances of overtaking Contador.

dastardly00 · 30-05-2015 4:28pm

I feel sorry for Hesjedal that he didn't win the stage today, but he has managed to finish in 5th overall.

Talib Fiasco · 30-05-2015 4:28pm

Only explanation I can make is that Aru is the golden boy of Astana and has long term future there...Landa is gone this year so why should they give him anything more?

letape · 30-05-2015 4:28pm

Obviously very disappointing for Landa but I do believe it was the right decision for the team.

Dcully · 30-05-2015 4:31pm

If contador had a team he would walk the tdf too.Aru and Landa have some future in the sport,yet again some ride from hesjedal,great giro overall.

MPFG · 30-05-2015 4:32pm

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Only explanation I can make is that Aru is the golden boy of Astana and has long term future there...Landa is gone this year so why should they give him anything more?

There is rumors that SKY are talking to him but it will most likely be Movistar or BMC

Talib Fiasco · 30-05-2015 4:38pm

MPFG wrote: »

There is rumors that SKY are talking to him but it will most likely be Movistar or BMC

I think he'll go to Katusha personally.

godtabh · 30-05-2015 5:07pm

What was the final result? Any change in GC?

ednwireland · 30-05-2015 5:09pm

I was wondering whether contadors out of the saddle climbing style gave him problems on the white roads. As much as been tired out fighting astana.

spock. · 30-05-2015 5:14pm

godtabh wrote:

What was the final result? Any change in GC?

Aru won the stage

Top 5 in GC:
Contador, Aru, Landa, Amador, Hesjedal

godtabh · 30-05-2015 5:23pm

spock. wrote: »

Aru won the stage

Top 5 in GC:
Contador, Aru, Landa, Amador, Hesjedal

When I left it didn't see Aru winning it

funnights74 · 30-05-2015 5:31pm

Morrisseeee wrote: »

Can't see Contador winning the tour aswell, he's too old and after that tough Giro and injured shoulder, I can't see him having enough in the tank to win it.

I agree, after his shoulder injury and taking on Astana for most of the giro all of this will take its toll. Come July and Sky, Astana with Nibali at the helm and god knows what else the Tour will be a bridge too far.

MPFG · 30-05-2015 5:39pm

dastardly00 wrote: »

I feel sorry for Hesjedal that he didn't win the stage today, but he has managed to finish in 5th overall.

Hesjedal and Kruijswijk have both been great ...climbing as good if not better than Contador in final half of the Giro

Pity they both lost so much time early on....Hesjedal could have been very near the podium

Kruijswijk finished just 12 seconds off 6th place...

Hope they learn from this and turn up next time ready to go

velo.2010 · 30-05-2015 6:07pm

ednwireland wrote: »

I was wondering whether contadors out of the saddle climbing style gave him problems on the white roads. As much as been tired out fighting astana.

I wondered this as well. He also travels a greater distance when you consider the weaving he does (Mortirolo springs to mind) when standing up.

Like many people, I can't help but think that Tinkoff-Saxo did too much work early on in stages though they were pressed by Astana many times too. Looking at the potential Tour team, he does a have a few fresh legs to come into the squad. Majka, Zaugg and Kiserlovski should come in alongside Rogers. Basso was useless in the Giro but I fear he may find his way into the squad. Kreuziger wasn't much better and outside factors may decide his Tour place. I wonder how Sagan will fit in and how much work he'll do, if any, for Contador on those early stages?

My Tour Team. Contador, Majka, Rogers , Zaugg, Kiserlovski, Sagan, Bennati, Morkov, Valgren.

Solobally8 · 30-05-2015 6:20pm

Roche would have been a good worker for Alberto. I think it was a mistake letting him go to sky

dastardly00 · 30-05-2015 6:35pm

Solobally8 wrote: »

Roche would have been a good worker for Alberto. I think it was a mistake letting him go to sky

He certainly would have been a valuable domestique to Contador in this race.

godtabh · 30-05-2015 6:54pm

Solobally8 wrote: »

Roche would have been a good worker for Alberto. I think it was a mistake letting him go to sky

Roche isn't sexy enough form Oleg. I think the way Saxo has been run in the last
12 months Rouche would suffered. Roche is clearly in sky's plans for the tour where I think he will have a big role to play

MPFG · 30-05-2015 6:59pm

godtabh wrote: »

Roche isn't sexy enough form Oleg. I think the way Saxo has been run in the last
12 months Rouche would suffered. Roche is clearly in sky's plans for the tour where I think he will have a big role to play

What ...not sexy enough for Oleg ??
Oleg is the antithesis of sexy

Roche didn't want to stay and listen to Oleg shouting at him....

godtabh · 30-05-2015 7:02pm

MPFG wrote: »

What ...not sexy enough for Oleg ??
Oleg is the antithesis of sexy

Roche didn't want to stay and listen to Oleg shouting at him....

He wanted a big name draw like Sagan in the squad over Roche. I'm sure Roche also saw the writing on the wall form Barney.

MPFG · 30-05-2015 7:18pm

godtabh wrote: »

He wanted a big name draw like Sagan in the squad over Roche. I'm sure Roche also saw the writing on the wall form Barney.

Oh I see what you mean

I thought you were alluding to Oleg's penchant for photographing riders in their underpants :eek:

godtabh · 30-05-2015 8:02pm

MPFG wrote: »

Oh I see what you mean

I thought you were alluding to Oleg's penchant for photographing riders in their underpants :eek:

What ever floats olges boat

happytramp · 30-05-2015 8:13pm

dastardly00 wrote: »

Greg LeMond is saying that Astana should have called Landa back a lot earlier in order to help Aru's GC chances of overtaking Contador.

A bit rich coming from him :rolleyes:

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Giro d'Italia 2015 - Stage 20: Saint Vincent - Sestriere unmasked spoilers