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The Corrib Tape

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  • #252
    Turner
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,935 Mod ✭✭✭✭Turner


    I think everybody has said enough on this thread to be honest, it really is heading down the swanny now.

    The main points covered.

    * The woman arrested was not in the car when the comments were made, it was 3 Gardai in their patrol car having a private conversation and her video camera was in a bag on the back seat.

    * Womens groups got up in arms over the tape including the Rape Crisis Center

    * A Poll of after hours revealed that 54.6% of voters believed Gardai are working in a stressful environment and privately joking to release the stress. and that the whole affair was a storm in a teacup.

    * A poll in the Irish Independent revealed FEWER than one in five of the respondents in the poll think the gardai in the "rape tape" incident should be sacked and prosecuted. The vast majority favour the mildest punishment that was offered to them as an option, which is that the men should be reprimanded and then retrained.

    *Black humor is used by every emergency service in the world. There have been studies compiled on it by academics in the top educational institutions including Cambridge and Oxford. It has been found that it a necessary strategy for ES people to cope when they come into contact with such seriously disturbing images and scenes that our ES personnel have to deal with daily. People who have never come across such scenes and have no need to use black humor will never understand it. The Gardai dont come across such gruesome scenes daily but they do very often while on duty.



    The After hours thread has already been locked and I think the last post on that thread by Seamus sums it up really.
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by seamus
    Thankfully they can't be punished because they haven't done anything wrong. This was a private conversation between individuals. An employer cannot punish an employee for remarks made privately unless a party to that conversation makes a complaint.

    In this case the Shell to sea women are not a party to the conversation because it was illegitimately recorded. Thankfully this fact makes it inadmissable as evidence, the Garda Ombudsman knows this, and they'll stick the individuals involved on paperwork for a couple of weeks until the morons find a new flavour of the week and then they can quietly send these Gardai out to do their job again.

    The Gardai in question should sue the protestors involved for breach of privacy and harrassment. These women, upon learning that the conversation had been recorded, had a legal obligation to contact either the data protection commissioner or the Gardai to inform them of this breach of privacy and allow them to oversee the deletion of the recording.
    By publishing the conversation, they have involved themselves in a gross invasions of the officers' privacy and deserve to be punished.

    The officers are entitled to say things in private, and they're definitely entitled to joke in private, whether they're in uniform or not. The day that we start censoring or punishing people over their legal and harmless private conversations is the day we should just resurrect Hitler and let him get on with it.

    The only people here who have caused any outrage or injury are these shell to sea protestors and they should be outed as the malicious, tax wasting spongers that they are and destroyed in the media.

    The Gardai have nothing to apologise for. They didn't say anything offensive to anyone.

    Thanks,

    Chief---


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