Car not selling on Donedeal

ferry17 · 18-02-2014 11:27pm #1

Hi all,

I have my car for sale on Donedeal now for 12 days. Its a nice, genuine car. I haven't had one phone call so far! Any suggestions? Is it too expensive or is the current market for cars under 5k too vast??

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/05-honda-civic-ctdi-nct-2016/6400048

Thanks in advance.

colm_mcm · 18-02-2014 11:28pm

It's always one of these 3
Ad is wrong
Car is wrong
Price is wrong.

In your case I think its the price. They're a great car but not an obvious choice.
That said there aren't a lot of them about so someone actually looking for one won't be spoiled for choice.
Donegal will put a lot of people off too, you're too far away from most of the country.

30,000 posts time for an oil change!

Anan1 · 18-02-2014 11:29pm

colm_mcm wrote: »

It's always one of these 3
Ad is wrong
Car is wrong
Price is wrong.

Doesn't matter if the car is wrong if the price is right.

vcshqkf9rpzgoe · 18-02-2014 11:30pm

There's a lot of miles in the car, your also based in donegal, a long drive for most people

George Dalton · 18-02-2014 11:32pm

Anan1 wrote: »

Doesn't matter if the car is wrong if the price is right.

Those are always the fastest selling cars! It's easier to sell a bad car than a good one. A fool and his money....

Mex Mick · 18-02-2014 11:34pm

ferry17 wrote: »

Hi all,

I have my car for sale on Donedeal now for 12 days. Its a nice, genuine car. I haven't had one phone call so far! Any suggestions? Is it too expensive or is the current market for cars under 5k too vast??

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/05-honda-civic-ctdi-nct-2016/6400048

Thanks in advance.

Put it on for €2,999

pablo128 · 18-02-2014 11:34pm

The problem in Ireland is that it hasn't got enough doors. That kind of car would be seen as a family car here.
Have a look at other models in 3 and 5 door form and you will see a good price difference between them.

I happen to think it's a fair price for a decent car, though.

Rasmus · 18-02-2014 11:35pm

Too expensive: high milage, biggish engine, and an 8 yr old car.

djPSB · 18-02-2014 11:36pm

Just one thing that would put me off your ad.

Email 'Honda' and call 'Seller'.

Think it looks more legit when a seller isn't afraid to put down their name.

pablo128 · 18-02-2014 11:38pm

Rasmus wrote: »

Too expensive: high milage, biggish engine, and an 8 yr old car.

Average mileage, not that big an engine for a diesel, and it's a 9 year old car.
If you don't like the price, start haggling.

Grab All Association · 18-02-2014 11:40pm

If I were you I would also change the number plates or least blur them out on the photo. The sporty plates would give the impression to any buyer that your a boy racer pulling handbrake turns in it.

Notch000 · 18-02-2014 11:55pm

donegal plates would put me off every car all day long

djPSB · 18-02-2014 11:56pm

Notch000 wrote: »

donegal plates would put me off every car all day long

Is a Dublin reg the most favourable?

colm_mcm · 18-02-2014 11:59pm

djPSB wrote: »

Is a Dublin reg the most favourable?

For the masses, yes.

If you actually live in Dublin (as a lot of the country do) its just not on to drive a 'bog' (non Dublin) reg.

sawdoubters · 19-02-2014 12:02am

put a for sale sign in your car park in tescos or some other car park don't put price in,

http://cars.donedeal.ie/find/cars/for-sale/Ireland/?filter%28make%29=Honda&filter%28max_engine%29=Max+Litres&filter%28max_mileage%29=Max+KM&filter%28max_price%29=Max&filter%28max_year%29=2005&filter%28min_engine%29=Min+Litres&filter%28min_mileage%29=Min+KM&filter%28min_price%29=Min&filter%28min_year%29=2005&filter%28model%29=Civic&source=all

Supergurrier · 19-02-2014 12:02am

It's over a grand and a half overpriced

Grab All Association · 19-02-2014 12:03am

djPSB wrote: »

Is a Dublin reg the most favourable?

It is here after TN/TS although driving one through Thurles on a match day Dublin vs (Clare I think it was) your car will be kicked sitting in traffic.

eringobragh · 19-02-2014 12:04am

Notch000 wrote: »

donegal plates would put me off every car all day long

djPSB wrote: »

Is a Dublin reg the most favourable?

I think he means donegal reg cars live a must harder life!

YbFocus · 19-02-2014 12:35am

Don't call yourself Honda, hate seeing stuff like that!

Nothing about service history and it does seem overpriced.

bazz26 · 19-02-2014 1:15am

Dominique Zealous Freshwater wrote: »

There's a lot of miles in the car, your also based in donegal, a long drive for most people

Unfortunately OP, the above note about mileage is very normal of the car buying public in this country. Even though 112k miles is hardly excessive for a 9 year old diesel car, it is a mental challenge for a lot of Irish buyers. One of the reasons why clocking continues to be big business here.

debabyjesus · 19-02-2014 1:48am

Nice enough car. Interior a bit dirty looking. I don't think they're original alloys btw, never seen that style on ep shape civic before. I'd advertise at 4.5k and hope to get at least 4k. Mileage ain't too bad at all.

DL = dogs life to people outside donegal.

plasteritup · 19-02-2014 1:56am

Honestly man that's crazy money your looking for, I'd wanna be paying no more than 2500 for that max

19-02-2014 2:09am

I have to be honest and say that DL puts me off cars in general. But it's mostly because of a combination of two things.

Firstly, when I was buying my first car, i was looking at a DL and i was advised (on here) strongly to stay away. So that's my first impression of DL and it just sticks with me for some reason.

Secondly, any DLs I see in real life, 95% of them are cars that have been toyed with excessively. Always look like they've had the bollocks 'boy racered' out of them. There's a DL car around the corner from where I live, and between the excessive lowering, silly stickers and spoiler all coming together to make me almost feel angry looking at it, it just makes me think there's certain 'type' of person or car associated with DL regs.

(that said, your car doesnt seem to have any of that silly nonsense, and actually looks really well, in my opinion).

You're up against this, though, for example:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/honda-civic-sport/6281410

(I don't know the first thing about civics though, so I'm not sure if I'm comparing apples and oranges).

I'm not sure that anyone looking for a Civic would prefer a petrol engine or not, though? (I'd assume most will invariably be the boy racer types and will opt for petrol when given the choice, and lower sized engine for insruance purposes)?

Mycroft H · 19-02-2014 2:28am

Are they the original tail lights?

colm_mcm · 19-02-2014 2:36am

Mycroft H wrote: »

Are they the original tail lights?

Yep, they're on all facelift civics.

unkel · 19-02-2014 3:01am

ferry17 wrote: »

Hi all,

I have my car for sale on Donedeal now for 12 days. Its a nice, genuine car. I haven't had one phone call so far! Any suggestions? Is it too expensive or is the current market for cars under 5k too vast??

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/05-honda-civic-ctdi-nct-2016/6400048

Thanks in advance.

Nice car! Hondas are very popular in this country for some reason. Civics even more so. And then diesels and then in Donegal! Still your asking price needs to be taken down by a few grand

5k for a 9 year old Civic / Golf you might have got in 2006, but not now

Kaiser D · 19-02-2014 3:26am

I'm failing to see how 118k miles is high for a 9 y/o diesel?

ironclaw · 19-02-2014 9:28am

Just so you know OP, according to the stats I have here, your mileage is above the average (About ~112,600 miles is the average) and your price is on the high side of the average (€4750 is the average private price while if you factor dealers, that drops to €4698) Note, they are asking, not actual sale prices.

My dataset for this specific car is quite small though, so take that with a pinch of salt.

_Kaiser_ · 19-02-2014 9:45am

- You're in Donegal which as noted is too far away for most people + there's the "DL image" of it being raced/skangered to an inch of its life

- Unusual to get a 3-door Civic like that in diesel = limited market?

dr.fuzzenstein · 19-02-2014 10:18am

Chris___ wrote: »

If I were you I would also change the number plates or least blur them out on the photo. The sporty plates would give the impression to any buyer that your a boy racer pulling handbrake turns in it.

As the ad is, there's nothing wrong with it.
However there are a few things that will cause me to automatically ignore and an ad and click next and blurred number plates is one of them. Others would be txt speak, excessive bad grammar (i.e. deliberately so, Ghettospeak), abuse and bad attitude and not enough details.
It reeks of seller hiding something that might come up on a reg check, so I don't want to have to phone the seller and go through a lot of hassle till I get the plates and THEN find a problem with it.

TL;DR
Blurred plates, NEXT!

Groundsource · 19-02-2014 10:22am

Road tax would put anyone off a 1.7L. may be better to trade if changing.

djimi · 19-02-2014 10:23am

Kaiser D wrote: »

I'm failing to see how 118k miles is high for a 9 y/o diesel?

I wouldnt have thought that 13k miles a year on a diesel is anywhere near high mileage tbh.

listermint · 19-02-2014 10:25am

IMH

- Clean the Interior properly i can see the dirt in the seats.
- Go out and buy proper legal printed reg plates they will make the 'DL' look less 'DL' if that makes sense.
- Dont take pictures on an empty road somewhere. Find a nice back drop for example a local landmark like a manor home or a castle residents. It makes the car feel more recongisable and not as if its on the side of the road.

And lastly adjust your price. Is is immediately overpriced to the tune of 1.5K

Best of luck

_Kaiser_ · 19-02-2014 10:43am

Groundsource wrote: »

Road tax would put anyone off a 1.7L. may be better to trade if changing.

Motor tax on a 1.7 is hardly excessive! €636 for the year or €53 a month. Most people probably spend that on a night out.

SleeperService · 19-02-2014 10:47am

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

Motor tax on a 1.7 is hardly excessive! €636 for the year or €53 a month. Most people probably spend that on a night out.

Yeah, very hard to explain the popularity of vw tdi of the same age if "no one" will pay 636 for an economical diesel.

Groundsource · 19-02-2014 11:05am

You have to be also mindful that alot of 'clocking' goes on with 'D' reg Cars.

dr.fuzzenstein · 19-02-2014 11:06am

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

Motor tax on a 1.7 is hardly excessive! €636 for the year or €53 a month. Most people probably spend that on a night out.

Not many nights I spend €636! :cool::D

plasteritup · 19-02-2014 11:07am

Groundsource wrote: »

You have to be also mindful that alot of 'clocking' goes on with 'D' reg Cars.

It's a dl

colm_mcm · 19-02-2014 11:08am

plasteritup wrote: »

It's a dl

Should be fine so.

Groundsource · 19-02-2014 11:09am

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

Motor tax on a 1.7 is hardly excessive! €636 for the year or €53 a month. Most people probably spend that on a night out.

If you think 636 is not excessive for road tax, you must earn to much:)
a 2L 2008 is less than 200 per YEAR. Do the maths.

plasteritup · 19-02-2014 11:13am

colm_mcm wrote: »

Should be fine so.

I'll never know cause I'm not buying it.wouldn't think there be much need clocking his yoke tho, be alarmed if it was between 60 and 80 r something

colm_mcm · 19-02-2014 11:13am

Groundsource wrote: »

If you think 636 is not excessive for road tax, you must earn to much:)
a 2L 2008 is less than 200 per YEAR. Do the maths.

What car is that?

Ded_Zebra · 19-02-2014 11:14am

Groundsource wrote: »

If you think 636 is not excessive for road tax, you must earn to much:)
a 2L 2008 is less than 200 per YEAR. Do the maths.

and how much does the 2008 car cost?

SleeperService · 19-02-2014 11:16am

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Not many nights I spend €636! :cool::D

You are obviously a canny diesel driver. Us petrol drivers like to party hard.

SleeperService · 19-02-2014 11:17am

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

and how much does the 2008 car cost?

Cheeeeeeep taaaaaaax

dr.fuzzenstein · 19-02-2014 11:17am

Groundsource wrote: »

If you think 636 is not excessive for road tax, you must earn to much:)
a 2L 2008 is less than 200 per YEAR. Do the maths.

I pay that and more for my 06 CMax (1.8 diesel), but I'd have to be pretty stupid to spend thousands and thousands more just to save a few hundred on tax.
But that is the Irish motoring public. Spending thousands to save hundreds.

mickdw · 19-02-2014 11:29am

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

I pay that and more for my 06 CMax (1.8 diesel), but I'd have to be pretty stupid to spend thousands and thousands more just to save a few hundred on tax.
But that is the Irish motoring public. Spending thousands to save hundreds.

Everybody on this forum seems to forget that people need to update their cars anyway for other reasons and at that point, it is worth considering the tax cost. Don't forget people did still change their cars before we ever had the cheaper tax.
I can't see myself getting into something with very low tax but comparing something like a 07 gs 450h v a 08 model, its a no brainer.

djimi · 19-02-2014 11:33am

Groundsource wrote: »

If you think 636 is not excessive for road tax, you must earn to much:)
a 2L 2008 is less than 200 per YEAR. Do the maths.

In context its not that excessive (compared to say a pre-2008 2L+). Obviously its extortionate overall, and thats not even getting into the farce of the dual taxation system, but in context its slightly higher tax on an older cheaper car, compared to slightly lower tax on a far more expensive post-2008 car.

djimi · 19-02-2014 11:35am

mickdw wrote: »

Everybody on this forum seems to forget that people need to update their cars anyway for other reasons and at that point, it is worth considering the tax cost. Don't forget people did still change their cars before we ever had the cheaper tax.
I can't see myself getting into something with very low tax but comparing something like a 07 gs 450h v a 08 model, its a no brainer.

It depends on the car. You see people overlooking a 2007 model of a car in favour of the "cheap tax" 2008 model, when in reality there is little difference between the cars and they are ultimately spending a couple of grand more in an effort to save maybe €200-€300 a year.

Cee-Jay-Cee · 19-02-2014 11:49am

The handiest thing for you OP to do is do a search on Donedeal. Refine your search to cars priced €4500 - €5500 and above 2005 and see the cars available for sale, then ask yourself would you buy a 3dr civic with over 110k miles on it when you could get an 07 saloon with less miles, better spec and not considered a boy racers car, which being honest, what your car looks like.

Drop your price to €3500 which is more realistic and be prepared to take €3000. A three door car has a limited market and it being diesel limits that market further when the 1.4 petrol model is the preferred choice for people wanting that size and style car.

ferry17 · 19-02-2014 12:06pm

Thank you all for your opinions. Just to pick up on a few things mentioned - DL reg - I was aware of the stigma surrounding the DL reg, from talking to dealers in Dublin they say its more to do with the conditions of the roads in Donegal which is understandable. (They're appalling). Its kinda funny as the car has spent the last 4years in Dublin.
Alloys: The car was imported from England and they are genuine Honda alloys.
Mileage: The mileage is just about average for a car its age. Its also a diesel so it'll go on for quite a bit longer.
Tax: The tax for this car is €570.
Service History: The car had FHSH until 2009. My local garage did the servicing since then.
Price: According to car valuations and looking at similar cars online she might be overpriced.

Thanks for all your comments. I'll make a few adjustments to my ad and hopefully it'll do the trick.

Car not selling on Donedeal

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