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Non-Official, Offline Motorway Services in Ireland

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    #182
    munchkin_utd
    Registered Users Posts: 7,846 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    Carawaystick wrote: »
    Where do hgv's get diesel? there doesn't seem to be a separate fueling area for them.
    thats only a computer generated model so isnt 100% the finished thing.
    From the model and the photos theres no way a truck could manoeuvere into the filling area so you'd presume theres a couple of pumps down the back for the lorries like at the applegreen M11 Ashford.


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    #183
    JupiterKid
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 12,609 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    Great to see the Obama Plaza at Moneygall up and running but all the same I'd be concerned about the sub-standard LILO junction used to access those services from the M7.


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    #184
    Poxyshamrock
    Registered Users Posts: 4,828 ✭✭✭Poxyshamrock


    Any updates on Applegreen at J27 on M7? When is it scheduled for completion?


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    #185
    Jayuu
    Registered Users Posts: 742 ✭✭✭Jayuu


    I'm a bit confused about the new Ashford location. If this is not an official site how is it signposted from the M11? And how close is this to the new official site that's being built currently. Are they both Applegreen sites?


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    #186
    loyatemu
    Registered Users Posts: 14,782 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    Jayuu wrote: »
    I'm a bit confused about the new Ashford location. If this is not an official site how is it signposted from the M11? And how close is this to the new official site that's being built currently. Are they both Applegreen sites?

    AFAIK they're both Applegreen, about 45K between them.


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    #187
    JupiterKid
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 12,609 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    Was at the new Applegreen services on the N/M11 at Coynes Cross this evening - it is excellent and seems to be attracting plenty of customers.


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    #188
    linny
    Registered Users Posts: 572 ✭✭✭linny


    planning for this in paulstown is after been lodged again after been removed the first time
    http://planning.kilkennycoco.ie/FileRefDetails.aspx?file_number=14238&LASiteID=0


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    #189
    JupiterKid
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 12,609 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    I see that a new Applegreen (I think from the shape of the structure) services are going up at Junction 27 (Birdhill) on the M7.


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    #190
    munchkin_utd
    Registered Users Posts: 7,846 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    JupiterKid wrote: »
    I see that a new Applegreen (I think from the shape of the structure) services are going up at Junction 27 (Birdhill) on the M7.
    indeed.
    http://www.nenaghguardian.ie/news/roundup/articles/2014/04/23/4029746-work-starts-on-birdhill-service-area/

    On the M8 which has no services at all online or offline, Applegreen have had 2 applications turned down at Fermoy and Michelstown
    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/bord-pleanala-rejects-two-m8-service-stations-257973.html
    and these applications were made after An Bord Planala refused permission for appplegreen services at J10 at Cahir and that plan was abandoned
    http://www.tippfm.com/news/detail/plans_for_motorway_service_area_moved_to_mitchelstown

    the M8 is one sorry stretch of road.


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    #191
    marmurr1916
    Registered Users Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭marmurr1916


    munchkin_utd wrote: »
    indeed.
    http://www.nenaghguardian.ie/news/roundup/articles/2014/04/23/4029746-work-starts-on-birdhill-service-area/

    On the M8 which has no services at all online or offline, Applegreen have had 2 applications turned down at Fermoy and Michelstown
    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/bord-pleanala-rejects-two-m8-service-stations-257973.html
    and these applications were made after An Bord Planala refused permission for appplegreen services at J10 at Cahir and that plan was abandoned
    http://www.tippfm.com/news/detail/plans_for_motorway_service_area_moved_to_mitchelstown

    the M8 is one sorry stretch of road.

    Has the offline services area at Cashel closed down? :confused:


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    #192
    veryangryman
    Registered Users Posts: 5,540 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    marmurr1916 wrote: »
    Has the offline services area at Cashel closed down? :confused:

    Apparently people think its unusable or some such muck so dont count it. I think its great. Quick friendly service, tidy and neat. A little on the small side but I've never needed more than 5 minutes in and out for a quick stop.

    If it was me bursting for a pee on a long journey, theres worse places to stop.


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    #193
    munchkin_utd
    Registered Users Posts: 7,846 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    marmurr1916 wrote: »
    Has the offline services area at Cashel closed down? :confused:
    dont start me on that hole of a place.
    They have barely enough parking for their staff let alone for motorway traffic.

    Therefore the M8 has no services.
    If you want to make a stop on the M8 youre better off search for a field entrance somewhere just off the motorway as go to cashel.


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    #194
    marmurr1916
    Registered Users Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭marmurr1916


    munchkin_utd wrote: »
    Therefore the M8 has no services.

    I think Busaras is a kip. But it's still a bus station.


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    #195
    Schadenfreudia
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Schadenfreudia


    Earthworks ongoing west of the M9 at Killcullen today....


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    #196
    Schadenfreudia
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    The Applegreen on the site of the old Green Lizard at J14 on te N/M11 has just opened.


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    #197
    D Trent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,341 ✭✭✭D Trent


    Schadenfreudia wrote: »
    The Applegreen on the site of the old Green Lizard at J14 on te N/M11 has just opened.

    Where have you been, under a rock??


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    #198
    Schadenfreudia
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Schadenfreudia


    D Trent wrote: »
    Where have you been, under a rock??


    No.

    Why do you ask?


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    #199
    D Trent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,341 ✭✭✭D Trent


    Schadenfreudia wrote: »
    No.

    Why do you ask?

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056007577&page=12


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    #200
    Schadenfreudia
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Schadenfreudia


    D Trent wrote: »
    Where have you been, under a rock??

    There is no internet connection under my rock :)


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    #201
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users Posts: 28,714 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    munchkin_utd wrote: »
    On the M8 which has no services at all online or offline, Applegreen have had 2 applications turned down at Fermoy and Michelstown
    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/bord-pleanala-rejects-two-m8-service-stations-257973.html
    and these applications were made after An Bord Planala refused permission for appplegreen services at J10 at Cahir and that plan was abandoned
    http://www.tippfm.com/news/detail/plans_for_motorway_service_area_moved_to_mitchelstown

    the M8 is one sorry stretch of road.

    Well Fermoy wouldn't make much sense to me as it's only 20 minutes out from the Jack Lynch tunnel so I can understand that.

    There's a long lonely drive from the M7 turn-off to Exit 5/6 where you could put something though

    The problem with the M8 from a business perspective is probably that it doesn't get enough traffic to warrant the investment. I drive it a fair bit and you can drive 5 minutes without coming across another car a lot of the time.


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    #202
    Carawaystick
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    Kaiser2000 wrote: »
    Well Fermoy wouldn't make much sense to me as it's only 20 minutes out from the Jack Lynch tunnel so I can understand that.

    You are assuming traffic all starts in Cork City, when in fact Fermoy might be halfway on a journey from Dublin to West Cork

    There's the online and offline applegreens at Lusk/Curtlough, which are even nearer Dublin city than Fermoy is to Cork city, and they do ok.


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    #203
    D Trent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,341 ✭✭✭D Trent


    http://m.rte.ie/news/touch/2014/0621/625517-roads/


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    #204
    linny
    Registered Users Posts: 572 ✭✭✭linny


    http://idocsweb.kilkennycoco.ie/ViewFiles.aspx?docid=216989&format=djvu

    just seen the drawings for the m9 service station are up on Kilkenny coco web site, looks like its going to be fairly thought out over 100 car park spaces


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    #205
    hi5
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    The Coco seem very specific that there is no pedestrian access from the village allowed(no footpaths to)...for Motorway traffic only.


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    #206
    marmurr1916
    Registered Users Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭marmurr1916


    Article doesn't say if the 'service stations' are going to be MSAs or just fancy petrol station but if the former, it'll be a major expansion of the MSA network, offline and online.
    Motorway service area company Applegreen is to create 360 jobs over the next 18 months as part of a €30 million expansion. It is constructing six service stations, with the first new forecourt opening in Co Wicklow today.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/more-than-400-postions-in-bumper-day-for-jobs-1.1854456

    Edit: just saw this.
    Applegreen will say today that it plans to expand its network of motorway service stations over the next 18 months.

    The expansion will create 360 permanent jobs as well as 250 construction jobs.

    Applegreen will make the announcement at the opening of a motorway service area at Junction 14 on the M11 in Wicklow this morning.

    Applegreen, which is part of Petrogas Global, plans to build six new service areas in a €30m investment by the end of next year.

    The company will say that more than 250 construction workers will be contracted per site during the construction phase. Once opened, each filing station will employ 60 full-time staff.

    The Wicklow service area is the first of the new Applegreen sites to open for business with additional sites in Birdhill, Co Tipperary, Swords, Co Dublin, and Lemybrien, Co Waterford, currently under construction. The new garages are so-called super service stations and are located on major inter-urban routes.

    http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/applegreen-to-create-360-jobs-in-motorway-network-expansion-30402222.html

    So that's 2 offline MSAs (Cullenmore and Birdhill) and a couple of service stations at Swords and on the N25 at Lemybrien.

    Wonder where the other 2 will be and if they'll be offline MSAs or not?


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    #207
    ongarboy
    Registered Users Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    Driving along the M7 yesterday and saw the totem sign for the Birdhill MSS erected with signage for Applegreen, Burger King and Costa Coffee so it must be opening soon.

    The station which is on the eastbound side seems to be hidden behind a hill and doesn't enjoy the same visibility from the road that the Barack Obama MSS has further on near Moneygall.


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    #208
    Conba
    Registered Users Posts: 143 ✭✭Conba


    I worry for the Birdhill MSS. I travel from Newcastlewest and Birdhill is too soon on my journey to stop, as it would be for most traffic departing Limerick or Ennis I imagine. I guess it'll be a good stop coming from Co. Kerry though.


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    #209
    ongarboy
    Registered Users Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    Conba wrote: »
    I worry for the Birdhill MSS. I travel from Newcastlewest and Birdhill is too soon on my journey to stop, as it would be for most traffic departing Limerick or Ennis I imagine. I guess it'll be a good stop coming from Co. Kerry though.

    Yes, a lot of tourist and regular traffic coming back from Kerry would avail of it. It's too soon for Limerick or east Clare traffic alright. I'd imagine people going west/southbound will not use it at all hardly with Moneygall not too far up the road. I'd imagine the food offerings will generate a fair bit of local custom too from Nenagh catchment area etc (particularly for Burger King).

    Monegall was packed last Saturday afternoon when I used it on the way down to Tralee from Dublin (perfect half way stop). It's very well set up with hot dinner counter, pizza bar, sandwich bar, coffee shop, Supermacs and large Spar.

    I notice that petrol station in Adare still has a sign saying last station for 180km (out of date now with Moneygall open!:)).


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    #210
    hi5
    Registered Users Posts: 3,105 ✭✭✭hi5


    Also on the M9, the proposed service station at Paulstown has been refused permission by Kilkenny CoCo amid controversy.

    http://www.kilkennyjournal.ie/index....tation-refusal


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    #211
    Geogregor
    Registered Users Posts: 397 ✭✭Geogregor


    hi5 wrote: »
    Also on the M9, the proposed service station at Paulstown has been refused permission by Kilkenny CoCo amid controversy.

    http://www.kilkennyjournal.ie/index....tation-refusal

    I can't see the link.

    What was the controversy?


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