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Is Hungary next?

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  • 23-07-2014 9:46pm
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    steveblack
    Registered Users Posts: 145 ✭✭


    Viktor Orban the hungarian leader has won two elections in a row.
    He told the IMF he didn’t need want a loan.
    He told the EC FinMins to mind their own business on the subject of his chosen economic strategy.
    He has no interest is joining the euro.

    Since then we have regular attempts by the EU and the MSM to smear the Orban government as fascist and racist.
    George Soros is financing US media entrepreneur Richard Field to “bring more democracy to Hungary”. Hard to see how it could be more democratic than it is, given the the Government has the confidence of a clear majority of voters. He claims a persecution of minorities. So far, Field’s persecution stories have turned out, on investigation, to be complete lies.

    The EU/US dont like anyone who wont follow there lead, predict there will be a lot of trouble there before the summers out.


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    comongethappy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭comongethappy


    steveblack wrote: »
    predict there will be a lot of trouble there before the summers out.

    What's your forfeit if your stream of conscious turns out to be false & there is no civil war in Hungary by September?


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    steveblack
    Registered Users Posts: 145 ✭✭steveblack


    I will bet a 1 month ban, do you care to have a bet?
    If there is trouble you get a 1 month ban.

    I think ban bets could do this forum a world of good, get people to think before they post here.
    Make the discussions interesting, and cut out trolling.


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    comongethappy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭comongethappy


    steveblack wrote: »
    and cut out trolling.

    If only eh!


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    steveblack
    Registered Users Posts: 145 ✭✭steveblack


    comongethappy wrote: »
    If only eh!

    So you wont bet, and you believe im trolling.
    Im will to stand by what i posted are you?
    That shows who the troll is.


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    Sulla Felix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭Sulla Felix


    steveblack wrote: »
    Viktor Orban the hungarian leader has won two elections in a row.
    He told the IMF he didn’t need want a loan.
    He told the EC FinMins to mind their own business on the subject of his chosen economic strategy.
    He has no interest is joining the euro.

    Since then we have regular attempts by the EU and the MSM to smear the Orban government as fascist and racist.
    George Soros is financing US media entrepreneur Richard Field to “bring more democracy to Hungary”. Hard to see how it could be more democratic than it is, given the the Government has the confidence of a clear majority of voters. He claims a persecution of minorities. So far, Field’s persecution stories have turned out, on investigation, to be complete lies.

    The EU/US dont like anyone who wont follow there lead, predict there will be a lot of trouble there before the summers out.

    Plenty of commentators weren't too happy that he didn't join the queue to condemn Russia earlier in the year. The 13bn loan Russia gave them so that Russia could expand a Hungarian nuclear plant also came in for criticism, but that kind of practise is common when it comes to US/EU aid too so not sure what they were moaning for.


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    Scofflaw
    Registered Users Posts: 23,283 ✭✭✭✭Scofflaw


    steveblack wrote: »
    I will bet a 1 month ban, do you care to have a bet?
    If there is trouble you get a 1 month ban.

    I think ban bets could do this forum a world of good, get people to think before they post here.
    Make the discussions interesting, and cut out trolling.

    steveblack, cut it out, or you'll have your month's ban without any betting.

    moderately,
    Scofflaw


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    djpbarry
    Registered Users Posts: 13,104 ✭✭✭✭djpbarry


    steveblack wrote: »
    George Soros is financing US media entrepreneur Richard Field to “bring more democracy to Hungary”. Hard to see how it could be more democratic than it is, given the the Government has the confidence of a clear majority of voters. He claims a persecution of minorities. So far, Field’s persecution stories have turned out, on investigation, to be complete lies.
    Persecution and discrimination in Hungary have been fairly well documented by NGOs, such as Amnesty, for example.


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    riffmongous
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,629 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    steveblack wrote: »
    Since then we have regular attempts by the EU and the MSM to smear the Orban government as fascist and racist.
    George Soros is financing US media entrepreneur Richard Field to “bring more democracy to Hungary”. Hard to see how it could be more democratic than it is, given the the Government has the confidence of a clear majority of voters. He claims a persecution of minorities. So far, Field’s persecution stories have turned out, on investigation, to be complete lies.
    Well from the OSCE monitoring of the 2014 elections
    The 6 April parliamentary elections were efficiently administered and offered voters a diverse choice following an inclusive candidate registration process. The main governing party enjoyed an undue advantage because of restrictive campaign regulations, biased media coverage and campaign activities that blurred the separation between political party and the State

    compared to 2010
    According to the final assessment report: "The 2010 parliamentary elections confirmed the democratic principles established over the past 20 years. The elections were conducted in a pluralistic environment characterized by an overall respect for fundamental civil and political rights, and high public confidence in the process. The competition took place on a generally level playing field, under a sophisticated electoral system. It was administered by professional and efficient election management bodies, including fully-fledged political party representatives.
    "The legislative framework provides a comprehensive basis for the conduct of democratic elections. However, certain specific provisions would benefit from a review, most notably on full respect for the secrecy and equality of the vote, campaign finance, limitations on suffrage and timely implementation of respective decisions of the Constitutional Court."


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