Do you think American women are butch?

pseudonym1 · 08-12-2008 11:03pm

Yay ~ raises glass cheering to more drinking!! I have arrived!!

Saruman · 08-12-2008 11:07pm

Well i can speak from experience.
Im married to one and have been around Americans all my life.
American women are not butch nor have i ever even heard them referred that way by Irish people

Irish girls are more stuck up and far less friendly.

pseudonym1 · 08-12-2008 11:17pm

RonMexico wrote: »

I know many American wimminz and I have to say they are far more desirable than the swampdonkeys that pass for wimminz here.

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Ohhhh ooh !!

Swampdonkeys ppffftt - You nasty -Smack bang boom- evaporate !

naasface · 08-12-2008 11:19pm

the options on that poll are too irritating I can't vote.

LolaLuv · 09-12-2008 12:15am

pseudonym1 wrote: »

2 and a half hours on the train - oh please do I 'm thinking of going as an elf!!

Don't worry I ll tell you if you have an annoying accent

Might even get Brainthebard to attend now too!
T'would be a great night - am sure of it
Say you will pleeeeessssee pilly..?

I might! Have to think about the logistics and all. Are you going to the Dublin beers?

Lirange wrote: »

You kinky kids.

Mortal enemies. Immortal bedfellas! :pac:

I like the way you think...Lirange for king!

hullaballú wrote: »

Perhaps, if I hadn't graduated from UC-double-D two years ago.

Edit: The UCD/Trinity thing only lasts for your first year (and maybe a bit) in college. Then, if you're in Trinity, you realise that you're in college with a load of ogres and would be better-off broadening your horizons. If you're in UCD, D, you're anyone's. Indiscriminately.

I think they are ogres! They all seem sort of stuck up. Not all of them, but lots. Sort of up their own arses a bit. What a horrible traitor I am.

RonMexico wrote: »

I know many American wimminz and I have to say they are far more desirable than the swampdonkeys that pass for wimminz here.

All the Yankee wimminz that I know are hot and wouldn't be seen dead in a GAA jersey and tracksuit bottoms.

Lol, swampdonkeys, that's a new one. I see beautiful women everywhere in Dublin. Like, they could be models. It's sort of ridiculous.

American wimminz go to class in their pajamas. Not me, of course. :rolleyes:

naasface wrote: »

the options on that poll are too irritating I can't vote.

That's right, take a stand! Fight tha powa!!

Seraphicblue · 09-12-2008 12:56am

I second that motion!
although it could just be the lure of the exotic wimmins
I'm in cork and there's some right swampdonkeys down here

hullaballoo · 09-12-2008 1:11am

Swampdonkey is definitely now in my Friday night abuse lexicon for muckmunchers. Thanks for that.

tribulus · 09-12-2008 1:16am

Having never been there and no intentions of going I only have porn and tv to go off, so no, you're all in great shape!

LolaLuv · 09-12-2008 1:16am

What is a muckmuncher and why don't I know the words the cool kids know?

Red Hand · 09-12-2008 1:35am

Butch? No. They would have a reputation for being loud maybe? And the typical Irish male (outside of middle class Dublin that is) is going to clam up amongst loud people (unless drunk).;)

Whereas, down the country, there are the more masculine of us male Irish, with our pasty white skin, freckles and hairy backs. We're no soft handed metrosexuals! :mad: No cafe lattes and bagels for us!:mad: Them foppish scholars with their iPods and youtunetubes and their bleeding Che Guevarra T shirts!:mad:

Black tea, strips of boiled bacon and slices of bread as thick as bricks-that' what we thrive on! That and cursing! Going out to a f*cking bog in the middle of nowhere and pulling fecking great big tree shtumps out of the ground with our bare shovel-like hands is our greatest joy. The bog is our university. It is out great love.

There is nothing like a bunch of burly countrymen going round in the flogging horizontal rain, shouting at the top of their lungs as they sunder apart great stumps and rocks with nothing but metal bars.

Jesus, I weep thinking of it.

LolaLuv · 09-12-2008 1:54am

Jeremiah 16:1 wrote: »

Butch? No. They would have a reputation for being loud maybe? And the typical Irish male (outside of middle class Dublin that is) is going to clam up amongst loud people (unless drunk).;)

Whereas, down the country, there are the more masculine of us male Irish, with our pasty white skin, freckles and hairy backs. We're no soft handed metrosexuals! :mad: No cafe lattes and bagels for us!:mad: Them foppish scholars with their iPods and youtunetubes and their bleeding Che Guevarra T shirts!:mad:

Black tea, strips of boiled bacon and slices of bread as thick as bricks-that' what we thrive on! That and cursing! Going out to a f*cking bog in the middle of nowhere and pulling fecking great big tree shtumps out of the ground with our bare shovel-like hands is our greatest joy. The bog is our university. It is out great love.

There is nothing like a bunch of burly countrymen going round in the flogging horizontal rain, shouting at the top of their lungs as they sunder apart great stumps and rocks with nothing but metal bars.

Jesus, I weep thinking of it.

I salute your post. This is what Dublin is lacking; surly, rugged lumberjacks.

And why is it that Irish men do that clamming up thing? I'm not loud, but I'm pretty outgoing, and sometimes if I try to strike up a conversation with a local they react like they've never seen a woman before, let alone heard one speak. Are they just shy or am I violating some core social code?

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 09-12-2008 1:59am

Cork and Dublin have so many girly men... Unbelievable amount. But this is not a fair representation of our country. Go to the Glen of Imaal and have a few pints... You won't see any of that ****e going on up there. You see, it is more accepted in our capitol so people take advantage of it... pfft... It sickens me...

pseudonym1 · 09-12-2008 2:01am

Perhaps -i am due a couple of days meeting up with friends before xmas and a look round the shops would be nice - ohhh but I have so many plans made to exert my pocket and liver already it'll have to be considered a bit more.

The_Minister · 09-12-2008 2:05am

Most American girls I've met have had giant racks and been slappers.

Is that what you mean?

EDIT: 5 pages! Whoops

EDIt 2.0: Just read most of the thread. I think that Americans are loud.
American girls are also loud.
They also tend to be more forceful, but they have a certain fun to them.

pseudonym1 · 09-12-2008 2:06am

Jerimiah
LOLZ

TBH though all sounds a bit Gay!

LolaLuv · 09-12-2008 2:11am

The_Minister wrote: »

Most American girls I've met have had giant racks and been slappers.

Is that what you mean?

EDIT: 5 pages! Whoops

Lies. All lies. We are fragile flowers and pure as the fresh-driven snow.

The_Minister · 09-12-2008 2:12am

PillyPen wrote: »

Lies. All lies. We are fragile flowers and pure as the fresh-driven snow.

/Checks STI figures for America
/Backs away slowly

LolaLuv · 09-12-2008 2:13am

The_Minister wrote: »

/Checks STI figures for America
/Backs away slowly

Nah, don't worry. You weren't gonna get it anyway!

Yore ma, on the other hand...

And what's this about American women being forceful? That makes us sound like rapists or something.

hullaballoo · 09-12-2008 2:17am

PillyPen wrote: »

...That makes us sound like rapists or something.

That was the 'fun' to which he was referring.

5starpool · 09-12-2008 2:21am

PillyPen wrote: »

And what's this about American women being forceful? That makes us sound like rapists or something.

Well if you aren't going to at least pretend to rape one of us 'shy but manly' irish types you might as well stop posting now

/thread

LolaLuv · 09-12-2008 2:27am

5starpool wrote: »

Well if you aren't going to at least pretend to rape one of us 'shy but manly' irish types you might as well stop posting now

/thread

Hmm, maybe it's the American propensity toward rape that makes the Irish men clam up. Can't say I blame them for being careful. :rolleyes:

hullaballoo · 09-12-2008 2:28am

PillyPen wrote: »

Hmm, maybe it's the American propensity toward rape that makes the Irish men clam up. Can't say I blame them for being careful. :rolleyes:

American women are the reason they sell condoms in vending machines in Irish pubs.

5starpool · 09-12-2008 2:30am

hullaballú wrote: »

American women are the reason they sell condoms in vending machines in Irish pubs.

That would tally with the records of the first American woman coming to Ireland around 1994 or so alright.

LolaLuv · 09-12-2008 2:31am

hullaballú wrote: »

American women are the reason they sell condoms in vending machines in Irish pubs.

:eek::eek: Ok, if we weren't mortal enemies for the TCD/UCD thing, we are now. Good day to you. :mad:

Red Hand · 09-12-2008 2:34am

PillyPen wrote: »

And why is it that Irish men do that clamming up thing? I'm not loud, but I'm pretty outgoing, and sometimes if I try to strike up a conversation with a local they react like they've never seen a woman before, let alone heard one speak. Are they just shy or am I violating some core social code?

Well, for many fellows (and this would really apply to many of us rural fellows), when they encounter someone really outgoing and, say, "flamboyant" then they will shoot back into their shells. It isn't what they are used to. "Flamboyant" can be simply being a "foreigener":).Without the comforting blanket of alcohol, assertiveness (or even plain friendliness) can be unsettling. At least that is how many Americans are thought of. For many Irish, there is a degree of bullsh*t and ritual one has to go through before being accepted. Anything different can result in clamming. In my opinion of course.

pseudonym1 wrote: »

Jeremiah
LOLZ

TBH though all sounds a bit Gay!

The real Irish countryman does not know what Gay is (unless you are talking about that saintly broadcaster, Gay Byrne)

Now, who's for a day in the bog tomorrw, footing stook after stook of turf? There'll be a noggin of home brewed turpintine in it for the lucky brave ones!

hullaballoo · 09-12-2008 2:35am

PillyPen wrote: »

:eek::eek: Ok, if we weren't mortal enemies for the TCD/UCD thing, we are now. Good day to you. :mad:

???

I thought I was just paraphrasing your post?

Anyway, we've had this discussion before. I won't be your enemy, no matter how much you want me to: the best I can do is nonchalant respondant. Take it or leave it.

Edit: I'm sure there should be smilies in this post to let people know I'm j/k, but I really hate those fcukers. THEY are the true enemy.

5starpool · 09-12-2008 2:40am

Jeremiah 16:1 wrote: »

Now, who's for a day in the bog tomorrw, footing stook after stook of turf? There'll be a noggin of home brewed turpintine in it for the lucky brave ones!

Your use of Munster culchiespeak confuses me as a native of Connacht culchiespeak. I understand your sentence, but use some different terms.

Since however Connacht Irish pronunciations are universally* acknowledged as being the definitive ones, as opposed to the weird Munster ones, I extrapolate that your use of Munster culchiespeak is also flawed.

I don't really do culchiespeak in print though.

It is, so no point arguing.

pseudonym1 · 09-12-2008 2:43am

Jeremiah 16:1 wrote: »

Well, for many fellows (and this would really apply to many of us rural fellows), when they encounter someone really outgoing and, say, "flamboyant" then they will shoot back into their shells. It isn't what they are used to. "Flamboyant" can be simply being a "foreigener":).Without the comforting blanket of alcohol, assertiveness (or even plain friendliness) can be unsettling. At least that is how many Americans are thought of. For many Irish, there is a degree of bullsh*t and ritual one has to go through before being accepted. Anything different can result in clamming. In my opinion of course.

The real Irish countryman does not know what Gay is (unless you are talking about that saintly broadcaster, Gay Byrne)

Now, who's for a day in the bog tomorrw, footing stook after stook of turf? There'll be a noggin of home brewed turpintine in it for the lucky brave ones!

G's I know rural Irish men spend a lot of time on the bog... but a whole day!?
Asking randomers to accompanay you and serving them ~coughs under breath~ GAy BTW whats a footing stook? .. on second thoughts - don't wanna know :eek::D;)

LolaLuv · 09-12-2008 2:46am

Jeremiah 16:1 wrote: »

Well, for many fellows (and this would really apply to many of us rural fellows), when they encounter someone really outgoing and, say, "flamboyant" then they will shoot back into their shells. It isn't what they are used to. "Flamboyant" can be simply being a "foreigener":).Without the comforting blanket of alcohol, assertiveness (or even plain friendliness) can be unsettling. At least that is how many Americans are thought of. For many Irish, there is a degree of bullsh*t and ritual one has to go through before being accepted. Anything different can result in clamming. In my opinion of course.

I guess I'll stick to chatting up the old men so. They don't clam up and always have something fun to say.

hullaballú wrote: »

???

I thought I was just paraphrasing your post?

Anyway, we've had this discussion before. I won't be your enemy, no matter how much you want me to: the best I can do is nonchalant respondant. Take it or leave it.

Edit: I'm sure there should be smilies in this post to let people know I'm j/k, but I really hate those fcukers. THEY are the true enemy.

Somehow I thought you were talking about American women being slappers. I do apologize; it must be your inferior UCD education that makes your posts so damn ambiguous.

Anyway, I don't think you can refuse to be someone's enemy after they've declared themselves your nemesis. I'll have to check the rulebook. Nevertheless, per your request and explanation, I withdraw my vitriol. But you're on notice.

Red Hand · 09-12-2008 2:49am

5starpool wrote: »

Your use of Munster culchiespeak confuses me as a native of Connacht culchiespeak. I understand your sentence, but use some different terms.

Since however Connacht Irish pronunciations are universally* acknowledged as being the definitive ones, as opposed to the weird Munster ones, I extrapolate that your use of Munster culchiespeak is also flawed.

I don't really do culchiespeak in print though.

It is, so no point arguing.

Will you fwhisht a minite!:mad:

Do you tie the arse of your car closed with bailing twine? Is there a bale of hay in it?

Does every third word have to have "hoor" or "hooring" in it?

Then you are a culchie. Enough of your foosterin'!

Seriously, how do you pronounce "iontach"? I, a Munsterman, prounounce it as "ooohn-thuck". That is the test... (ooohn-thuck is correct;))

And I out culchie-speak you any day!

5starpool · 09-12-2008 2:52am

Jeremiah 16:1 wrote: »

Will you fwhisht a minite!:mad:

Do you tie the arse of your car closed with bailing twine? Is there a bale of hay in it?

Does every third word have to have "hoor" or "hooring" in it?

Then you are a culchie. Enough of your foosterin'!

Seriously, how do you pronounce "iontach"? I, a Munsterman, prounounce it as "ooohn-thuck". That is the test... (ooohn-thuck is correct;))

And I out culchie-speak you any day!

eeen-thuck

Don't mess with universal acknowledgement.

Red Hand · 09-12-2008 2:54am

pseudonym1 wrote: »

G's I know rural Irish men spend a lot of time on the bog... but a whole day!?
Asking randomers to accompanay you and serving them ~coughs under breath~ GAy BTW whats a footing stook? .. on second thoughts - don't wanna know :eek::D;)

*Flaps wrist*

You're all ganging up on me, I feel I jussss' wanna screammm!

Red Hand · 09-12-2008 2:56am

5starpool wrote: »

eeen-thuck

Don't mess with universal acknowledgement.

Munster dialect is the correct one, sorry. Back to the Wesht with ye.:)

pseudonym1 · 09-12-2008 2:59am

I just knew there was an effeminate side to that hurdle handed bog slaying man you potrayed!!

Have ya land? - my mate reckons that was old peoples culchie code for rich and fertile..

LolaLuv · 09-12-2008 3:00am

pseudonym1 wrote: »

I just knew there was an effeminate side to that hurdle handed bog slaying man you potrayed!!

A bog slaying man with a soft side...every woman's dream!

SeekUp · 09-12-2008 3:01am

hullaballú wrote: »

American women are the reason they sell condoms in vending machines in Irish pubs.

Don't act like you don't love it -- you can thank us later.

5starpool · 09-12-2008 3:03am

Jeremiah 16:1 wrote: »

Munster dialect is the correct one, sorry. Back to the Wesht with ye.:)

I lived among you lot for about 7 years in the city of gowls and takkies. I know a province rife with wrong words when I see it.

pseudonym1 · 09-12-2008 3:08am

PillyPen wrote: »

A bog slaying man with a soft side...every woman's dream!

Yay- Jeremiah pics please

not of you on bog though:(

The cunthree is full of them! So should come to beers in Galway...:)

Actually I declare it a national fest of beer and cheer - fun folk only please..

Yay!!!

Red Hand · 09-12-2008 3:19am

PillyPen wrote: »

A bog slaying man with a soft side...every woman's dream!

The soft side is Sweeney's acre...he never properly dyked that bit of the bog.:pac:

I just knew there was an effeminate side to that hurdle handed bog slaying man you potrayed!!

Have ya land? - my mate reckons that was old peoples culchie code for rich and fertile..

Ha! Yeah, I've heard versions of that-"frontage" being a rathar apt euphemism.:)

LolaLuv · 09-12-2008 3:21am

pseudonym1 wrote: »

Yay- Jeremiah pics please not of you on bog though:(

The cunthree is full of them! So should come to beers in Galway...:)

Actually I declare it a national fest of beer and cheer - fun folk only please..

Yay!!!

So I can meet the swarthy love of my life in Galway then return to Dublin to be re-surrounded by these delicate little she-men. The horror of it! :pac:

Beer and cheer ftw!

pseudonym1 · 09-12-2008 3:29am

Ah no way beach- not coming over here taking our men - ppfft - the gawl of it!!

It will be uber fun and who knows who ya might meet - possibilities are endless. I could definately introduce you to a couple of sh1te talking country criters. I have 2 single brothers a best mate that can think of at mo..

LightningBolt · 09-12-2008 3:31am

PillyPen wrote: »

I salute your post. This is what Dublin is lacking; surly, rugged lumberjacks.

And why is it that Irish men do that clamming up thing? I'm not loud, but I'm pretty outgoing, and sometimes if I try to strike up a conversation with a local they react like they've never seen a woman before, let alone heard one speak. Are they just shy or am I violating some core social code?

To be honest I suspect that it's a situation a lot of Irish guys rarely find themselves in and thus don't know how to react. Whenever I've lived in Canada I've found that the women are so friendly and will talk to you in the bar just to have some fun and no ulterior motives. Very rarely happens here in my opinion unless you know the women, or they're friends of people you know.

Red Hand · 09-12-2008 3:32am

5starpool wrote: »

I lived among you lot for about 7 years in the city of gowls and takkies. I know a province rife with wrong words when I see it.

Well, my first outing to Galway resulted in me having my car clamped near the trawlers and emptying my pockets to yer B+B's!:mad: Ye may have less strange words, but more money grabbers by far!:p

pseudonym1 wrote: »

Yay- Jeremiah pics please not of you on bog though:(

Ha! Not on boards, sorry. Shure, t'is far from poshtin' pictures I was raished!:p

The cunthree is full of them! So should come to beers in Galway...:)

Only take the pronounciation so far...you'll end up banned for bad language!:p

Actually I declare it a national fest of beer and cheer - fun folk only please..

An o-fee-shall invitation! Jaysus!

PillyPen wrote: »

So I can meet the swarthy love of my life in Galway then return to Dublin to be re-surrounded by these delicate little she-men. The horror of it! :pac:

Beer and cheer ftw!

Well, make sure that the culchie of your choice has had his sheep fluke taken care of first!:pac:

5starpool · 09-12-2008 3:34am

Jeremiah 16:1 wrote: »

Well, my first outing to Galway resulted in me having my car clamped near the trawlers and emptying my pockets to yer B+B's!:mad: Ye may have less strange words, but more money grabbers by far!:p

Ah Galway people are all hippies, I wouldn't mind them.

Red Hand · 09-12-2008 3:36am

pseudonym1 wrote: »

I could definately introduce you to a couple of sh1te talking country criters. I have 2 single brothers a best mate that can think of at mo..

Sounds fabuloussss'! We can have a make-up party too! I've got the eye shadow sorted!:pac:

OK, I think I've prostituted myself for cheap laughs enough for tonight. Have to go to bed for work.

Night all.:D

Xavi6 · 09-12-2008 3:36am

Having lived in Chicago and been to New York, Florida and Vegas I can safely say that the American women are in a completely different world to the ditch pigs in Ireland.

pseudonym1 · 09-12-2008 3:36am

Jeremiah 16:1 wrote: »

Well, my first outing to Galway resulted in me having my car clamped near the trawlers and emptying my pockets to yer B+B's!:mad: Ye may have less strange words, but more money grabbers by far!:p

Ha! Not on boards, sorry. Shure, t'is far from poshtin' pictures I was raished!:p

Only take the pronounciation so far...you'll end up banned for bad language!:p

An o-fee-shall invitation! Jaysus!

Well, make sure that the culchie of your choice has had his sheep fluke
taken care of first!:pac:

Yep you should come too

LightningBolt · 09-12-2008 3:39am

Xavi6 wrote: »

Having lived in Chicago and been to New York, Florida and Vegas I can safely say that the American women are in a completely different world to the ditch pigs in Ireland.

Agreed, well maybe not on the ditch pigs bit:D But north American women are a lot more friendlier and sincere when you first approach them as a stranger or vice versa as opposed to here.

Nothingcompares · 09-12-2008 3:56am

I used to work in Trinity over the summer and they'd get a lot of American students staying on campus taking summer courses or something. I was always shocked by how un-OC they were. I had just been brain washed into thinking all Americans were incredibly well dressed, incredibly good looking and incredible need of a good seeing to. Obviously in reality, or maybe the people that go to Ireland for summer school rather than the hamptons or paris, are a bit more "normal" looking and prone to wearing "student clothes".

Now, I am not metrosexual at all. To be honest, I probably look like a chav more than anything when going about my daily business. But the majority of the Americans I saw looked like they got their clothes in Tk MAxx (urban hillbilly outfitters). all these massive jumpers and shirts and jeans, looked hideous. Again, it's just a cultural thing, what goes for student casual over there looks a bit hillbilly to us.

generally had nice tans though.

I think my point was, I have become quite confused finding links, that Irish people may be like me and expect american girls to look and act like britney spears or paris hilton but the reality we get is closer to napoleon dynmaite cast.

LolaLuv · 09-12-2008 10:24am

pseudonym1 wrote: »

Ah no way beach- not coming over here taking our men - ppfft - the gawl of it!!
It will be uber fun and who knows who ya might meet - possibilities are endless. I could definately introduce you to a couple of sh1te talking country criters. I have 2 single brothers a best mate that can think of at mo..

Nooo, no boys for me! Pimp 4 lyfe!

LightningBolt wrote: »

To be honest I suspect that it's a situation a lot of Irish guys rarely find themselves in and thus don't know how to react. Whenever I've lived in Canada I've found that the women are so friendly and will talk to you in the bar just to have some fun and no ulterior motives. Very rarely happens here in my opinion unless you know the women, or they're friends of people you know.

It's so funny! Yesterday my friend and I were at the grocery store and asked this guy standing next to us about a product, and he got soooo embarrassed. It was really adorable and charming, but also strange.

Nothingcompares wrote: »

Now, I am not metrosexual at all. To be honest, I probably look like a chav more than anything when going about my daily business. But the majority of the Americans I saw looked like they got their clothes in Tk MAxx (urban hillbilly outfitters). all these massive jumpers and shirts and jeans, looked hideous. Again, it's just a cultural thing, what goes for student casual over there looks a bit hillbilly to us.

My buddies and I have noticed this. Irish women seem to be much more likely to get dolled up on a daily basis, at least the ones at Trinity and around parts of Dublin. We feel like slobs in comparison when we go to class. I don't know how the hell they can afford to have so many outfits!

Do you think American women are butch?

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