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The new safety health and welfare regs 2013

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  • 14-04-2014 10:56pm
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    Selfbuilder14
    Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭


    Hi all we are currently starting to build our extension under the old building control regulations. If we self build do we need to employ a project supervisor or are we exempt under the grace period?


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    4Sticks
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    Selfbuilder14 wrote: »
    Hi all we are currently starting to build our extension under the old building control regulations

    Meaning you started between 14 - 28th March. Right ? That is a Building Regulations matter.
    Selfbuilder14 wrote: »
    If we self build do we need to employ a project supervisor or are we exempt under the grace period?

    If you are talking still about building Regulations and if you have started as above you do not need to appoint an Assigned Designer or an Assigned Certifier.

    If you are talking Health and Safety read this


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    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,764 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Selfbuilder14 wrote: »
    If we self build do we need to employ a project supervisor or are we exempt under the grace period?

    When did you start the design process and when do you hope to have the work/construction complete?


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    Selfbuilder14
    Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭Selfbuilder14


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    When did you start the design process and when do you hope to have the work/construction complete?

    We started the design process a year and a half ago commenced our build by closing our 2 nd entrance and opening up a new entrance as per planning. We are hoping to complete by Christmas but may be longer.


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    DOCARCH
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    Selfbuilder14 wrote: »
    ...commenced our build by closing our 2 nd entrance and opening up a new entrance as per planning.

    Not 100% sure that exempts you from the BC(A)R?
    Selfbuilder14 wrote: »
    We are hoping to complete by Christmas but may be longer.

    New H&S regulations would/do apply and you need to appoint a Project Supervisor Design Process (PSDP) - although you are a bit late on that one! - and Project Supervisor Construction Stage (PSCS).


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    BryanF
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    Selfbuilder14 wrote: »
    Hi all we are currently starting to build our extension under the old building control regulations. If we self build do we need to employ a project supervisor or are we exempt under the grace period?

    What size is the extension?
    When was your commencement notice submitted?


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    4Sticks
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    DOCARCH wrote: »
    Not 100% sure that exempts you from the BC(A)R?
    .

    Domestos sure. 99% :D


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    Selfbuilder14
    Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭Selfbuilder14


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    Not 100% sure that exempts you from the BC(A)R?



    New H&S regulations would/do apply and you need to appoint a Project Supervisor Design Process (PSDP) - although you are a bit late on that one! - and Project Supervisor Construction Stage (PSCS).


    Thanks my other half deals with this work in his capable hands as,a civil engineer


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    4Sticks
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    So....what IS your query then ?


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    Selfbuilder14
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    4Sticks wrote: »
    So....what IS your query then ?

    Exactly what was asked!!! My other half asked me to ask as he was unsure if applied if building under the old regs. I have no idea am on a steep learning curve.


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    4Sticks
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    1. Building control regs and H+S regs are separate. You query links them but should not.
    2. The H+S regs kicked in last Aug.


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    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,561 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Sounds like your commencement notice should be invalidated and you should be lodging again. Closing off a gate does not mean commencement. A CN is only require when works to which the building regs apple, and closing a gate is not part of that.

    Heck demolition of some structures doesn't even mean commencement in some cases.


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    Selfbuilder14
    Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭Selfbuilder14


    Thanks for your replies. We have an architect and a structural engineer overseeing our project and it is out for tender hence delay in starting. We are not sure if better to self build hence this question. If we need to resubmit the commencement notice then we will. We were going to self build but our architect was dead set against. He advised us to submit the commencement notice. He also advised us to go for tender and now We have prices in and are meeting with architect next week as prices all much higher than we thought. If we have to resubmit the commencement notice our choice to self build will taken away. Having looked into everything we will probably hire a builder but exploring all options


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