Celtic FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2011/2012

ColeTrain · 25-08-2011 8:48pm

That should be that..

PauloMN · 25-08-2011 8:48pm

Game over. Another disaster in Europe.

ColeTrain · 25-08-2011 8:50pm

Lennon should have used the bench earlier. Easy saying it now but we were crying out for new ideas there.

bobmalooka · 25-08-2011 8:51pm

Dempsey wrote: »

Hooper needs to be hooked for Stokes imo

Samaras needs to be hooked also, Commons or Paddy, flip a coin!

i dont know, sammy has been the only one showing energy going forward. he is running down dead ends but he needs someone busting their balls to provide an overlap. the bold move would be replace ledley with forrest

Pompey Magnus · 25-08-2011 8:51pm

Can't believe I woke up early to watch this :mad:

PauloMN · 25-08-2011 8:52pm

ColeTrain wrote: »

Lennon should have used the bench earlier. Easy saying it now but we were crying out for new ideas there.

Totally agree. Said it earlier, if we'd still not scored at half time, early 2nd half sub. An opportunity missed.

bobmalooka · 25-08-2011 8:55pm

has to stay onside, no excuse

Atomic Pineapple · 25-08-2011 8:57pm

2 - 0 down to FC Sion? Jesus that's embarrassing!

ColeTrain · 25-08-2011 8:57pm

PauloMN wrote: »

Totally agree. Said it earlier, if we'd still not scored at half time, early 2nd half sub. An opportunity missed.

Commons might not look too fit but he's always a threat from outside the box. He had to be on the pitch when we were struggling to get balls into the box.
McCourt should have been used too.. another f*cking disaster tonight :mad:

ColeTrain · 25-08-2011 9:00pm

draffodx wrote: »

2 - 0 down to FC Sion? Jesus that's embarrassing!

You don't say..

bobmalooka · 25-08-2011 9:03pm

COME ON

ColeTrain · 25-08-2011 9:03pm

Get in Mulgrew..

Not over yet.

PauloMN · 25-08-2011 9:04pm

ColeTrain wrote: »

Get in Mulgrew..

Not over yet.

Great call keeping it low. Super shot.

ColeTrain · 25-08-2011 9:05pm

Lennon has to go for it now.

Gung ho all the way, doesn't matter if we lose another.

PauloMN · 25-08-2011 9:06pm

Big 10 mins now bhoys, keep the momentum.

RoryMac · 25-08-2011 9:07pm

Get Commons and Stokes on now!

RoryMac · 25-08-2011 9:08pm

Fcuk that!!

ColeTrain · 25-08-2011 9:08pm

Typical eh

PauloMN · 25-08-2011 9:08pm

KI FFS!!!! Amateur night.

ColeTrain · 25-08-2011 9:10pm

PauloMN wrote: »

KI FFS!!!! Amateur night.

It was a tired pass. We were always pissing into the wind after that start.

RoryMac · 25-08-2011 9:13pm

Lennon didn't help by waiting so long to make changes, worst thing about this result is there's no chance we'll be strengthening the team before the window closes. Gonna be a long hard season.

ColeTrain · 25-08-2011 9:15pm

RoryMac wrote: »

Lennon didn't help by waiting so long to make changes, worst thing about this result is there's no chance we'll be strengthening the team before the window closes. Gonna be a long hard season.

Commons on 87 minute

Fkin joke...Lenny obviously never played football manager like me :mad:

bobmalooka · 25-08-2011 9:15pm

commons on after 87 mins :rolleyes:
we cant blame lenny for big dan being an absolute idiot
Sion are muck and we've fallen apart against them

PauloMN · 25-08-2011 9:17pm

ColeTrain wrote: »

It was a tired pass. We were always pissing into the wind after that start.

Have to disagree. Absolutely shambolic from Ki, don't take any chances in a situation like that. Really disappointed in him. Yeah we were f**ked after a few mins, but still don't go gifting goals like that.

This is utterly embarrassing.

RoryMac · 25-08-2011 9:22pm

PauloMN wrote: »

This is utterly embarrassing.

You'd think we'd be used to this by now!!

Serious re-think needed by the board and Lennon, the downsizing of quality of our players is shocking, to get beaten so easily by the team that finished 7th in the Swiss league is a new low.

ColeTrain · 25-08-2011 9:22pm

bobmalooka wrote: »

commons on after 87 mins :rolleyes:
we cant blame lenny for big dan being an absolute idiot
Sion are muck and we've fallen apart against them

I like Lennon and I thought he was unlucky not have given us a title last year.

But for ffs he was way off the mark tonight mate - Big time, should have rang the changes at half time or soon enough after. He was as bad as Big Dan tonight, poor performance from Lennon. Commons was the man to bring on or McCourt or even Stokes. Hooper was off the pace.

FFs Celtic. What a great club, any supporter is ashamed tonight losing to the likes of Sion.

ColeTrain · 25-08-2011 9:26pm

PauloMN wrote: »

Have to disagree. Absolutely shambolic from Ki, don't take any chances in a situation like that. Really disappointed in him. Yeah we were f**ked after a few mins, but still don't go gifting goals like that.

This is utterly embarrassing.

We were doing well Paulo, It was a massive mistake but tired minds all the same. Wouldn't be too harsh on Ki. Thought he got pass marks tonight before that.

henke · 25-08-2011 9:26pm

This is one of the most embarrassing results I have ever witnessed :mad:. Fair enough Scottish football has fallen and we haven't the quality of seasons gone by but still we have superior players to Sion and this result is simply not acceptable to a club as great as Celtic.

A very sad night

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dekbhoy · 25-08-2011 9:26pm

embarrassed to say the least....... what a shambolic effort and result to a once respected and proud European footballing club. Fcuking sick

PauloMN · 25-08-2011 9:29pm

dekbhoy wrote: »

embarrassed to say the least....... what a shambolic effort and result to a once respected and proud European footballing club. Fcuking sick

Ditto mate. Only a few years ago, teams feared Parkhead - top Euro sides.

****ing Sion? Jesus wept.

dekbhoy · 25-08-2011 9:29pm

ColeTrain wrote: »

We were doing well Paulo, It was a massive mistake but tired minds all the same. Wouldn't be too harsh on Ki. Thought he got pass marks tonight before that.

He was absolutely muck, the whole bloody team where muck , dont think i ever witnessed such a lazy heartless effort from a celtic team, i suspect the team are losing faith in the manager and who would blame them.:mad:

RoryMac · 25-08-2011 9:34pm

henke wrote: »

This is one of the most embarrassing results I have ever witnessed :mad:. Fair enough Scottish football has fallen and we haven't the quality of seasons gone by but still we have superior players to Sion and this result is simply not acceptable to a club as great as Celtic.

A very sad night .

I'm not so sure about that any more, yeah we paid a lot more for our players than Sion did but i saw no evidence over the 2 legs that our players were any better than theirs, miles behind in technical ability. The amount of balls lost tonight because our players couldn't control a ball was shocking. I'd definitely take the guy who scored 2 for them tonight over any of our strikers in current form and to think we had him over on one of our infamous trials last season and decided against taking him!!

PauloMN · 25-08-2011 9:37pm

ColeTrain wrote: »

We were doing well Paulo, It was a massive mistake but tired minds all the same. Wouldn't be too harsh on Ki. Thought he got pass marks tonight before that.

I like Ki, and he did ok up to then, but it's too much CT - that was top drawer Caldwell-esque if ever I saw it. Hugely disappointing when we had just scored and were set up for a great 10 mins.

Not pinning all the blame on him though, we were not good enough over the two legs. Real damage was done at home. Look how we got through CL ties, we always - I mean always - won at home with the expectation of not winning away.

Not winning at home against a side like Sion is criminal.

ColeTrain · 25-08-2011 9:40pm

dekbhoy wrote: »

He was absolutely muck, the whole bloody team where muck , dont think i ever witnessed such a lazy heartless effort from a celtic team, i suspect the team are losing faith in the manager and who would blame them.:mad:

I thought we did alright before Ki fkced up. Face it, we're not good enough to be dominating any team with 10 men chasing a goal.

As I said I'm disappointed in Lennon more than anything. I thought the players did okay, we were probably the better team with ten men and lets face it Kayal, Wilson, Mulgrew and Hooper weren't near 100% fit. The lads on the pitch did their best all things considered.. Still there is no excuse getting pumped out by the likes of Sion. It's depressing. Don't know what else you can say but there's something wrong at the club. We've gone down hill bigtime.

bobmalooka · 25-08-2011 9:46pm

I know most have blasted lenneys attempts of bringing bellamy back but you have to feel if we had him for the first leg we wouldnt be here.

no he wont get him because the funds wont be there,

Bodhisopha · 25-08-2011 10:13pm

Gutted. A sad day for Irish football.

bobmalooka · 25-08-2011 10:15pm

Bodhisopha wrote: »

Gutted. A sad day for Irish football.

i hope your trollin,

amazing night for irish football with shamrock rovers progressing to the group stages

KeithAFC · 25-08-2011 10:18pm

Bad night for Scottish football. Like i said in the Rangers forum. And Celtic have some very good players too who can score goals. We have too, its simply amazing how both of us failed like this. Shocking.

ColeTrain · 25-08-2011 10:21pm

Bodhisopha wrote: »

Gutted. A sad day for Irish football.

Delighted for Rovers and the LOI - I truly am but everyday is always a great day being a Celtic fan, even tonight

PauloMN · 25-08-2011 10:22pm

Wonder will Kayal be heading off now?

ColeTrain · 25-08-2011 10:23pm

KeithAFC wrote: »

Bad night for Scottish football. Like i said in the Rangers forum. And Celtic have some very good players too who can score goals. We have too, its simply amazing how both of us failed like this. Shocking.

Yep a bad night all round. Gutted to get put out against a team like Sion, likewise I'd say.

RoryMac · 25-08-2011 10:26pm

PauloMN wrote: »

Wonder will Kayal be heading off now?

I wouldn't be surprised if someone needs to be sold to balance the books, Ki & Kayal are the only ones(fit) that could command a decent fee.

Brewster · 25-08-2011 10:29pm

What can one say? Last person out close the door. Dear goodness,what chance have you got when donkey dan does that?!! How have things got so bad?! Lenny and Ally are not up to the job. Think of all the great managers to have managed these two great clubs. It is a shambles, really is.

PauloMN · 25-08-2011 10:30pm

RoryMac wrote: »

I wouldn't be surprised if someone needs to be sold to balance the books, Ki & Kayal are the only ones(fit) that could command a decent fee.

I just don't think players like him, Ki, Izzy etc. will be sticking around to play St. feckin' Mirren etc. in a years time. Izzy's injury could be a blessing in disguise. This club is falling apart at the seams. All SPL sides out of all Euro comps and not even Sept. ****in' joke.

ColeTrain · 25-08-2011 10:40pm

PauloMN wrote: »

I just don't think players like him, Ki, Izzy etc. will be sticking around to play St. feckin' Mirren etc. in a years time. Izzy's injury could be a blessing in disguise. This club is falling apart at the seams. All SPL sides out of all Euro comps and not even Sept. ****in' joke.

It is falling apart in a way but if we were to win the SPL would we be such a lost cause?

PauloMN · 25-08-2011 10:54pm

ColeTrain wrote: »

It is falling apart in a way but if we were to win the SPL would we be such a lost cause?

It's a big "IF" though. Might be a bit early to say this, but I reckon Rangers are the better side being honest.

Of course winning the league is priority, but for me Europe is a huge part of the club as well. I love watching Celtic in the groups of the CL and also the Europa league, and they need to be in those competitions to attract players and make some money. I could never understand apathy towards UEFA Cup/Europa league games tbh - I feckin' hate qualifiers obviously but I'll always watch Celtic in Europe.

I thought last year would be a "gelling" season and fully expected to make the groups this season. To not do so is a big body-blow imo and could be a disaster for both keeping players we want to keep and bringing in new ones.

bit of a bogey · 25-08-2011 10:57pm

Am I the only one not buying into this KI bullsht!!
Rumours hes a £10M player-not a chance!! He wouldnt cope with the pace of the game in England! He drives me mad! Looks pretty on the the ball but has no impact on a game except from the odd shot.

He's too slow, grand to pass the ball backwards but he gives no drive or intensity to the game. Thats been a consistant problem with Celtic with him in the middle. Generally plenty of possesion but they are creating no chances!

He is no step up from Crosas or Donati. Drives me mad, especially listening to people stating he is our only decent player!!

bobmalooka · 25-08-2011 10:58pm

would the fact these guys couldnt secure europa league football not cool the interest in them.

Thats what our backroom team need these players to think, might get them to pull the finger out

Dempsey · 25-08-2011 11:07pm

Kayal was useless tonight, too many players believing their own hype. Casual Ki would get slaughtered in the EPL, SLAUGHTERED. Why would these players command a fee again??

Majstorovic should be strung up for his part tonight.

ColeTrain · 25-08-2011 11:18pm

PauloMN wrote: »

It's a big "IF" though. Might be a bit early to say this, but I reckon Rangers are the better side being honest.

Of course winning the league is priority, but for me Europe is a huge part of the club as well. I love watching Celtic in the groups of the CL and also the Europa league, and they need to be in those competitions to attract players and make some money. I could never understand apathy towards UEFA Cup/Europa league games tbh - I feckin' hate qualifiers obviously but I'll always watch Celtic in Europe.

I thought last year would be a "gelling" season and fully expected to make the groups this season. To not do so is a big body-blow imo and could be a disaster for both keeping players we want to keep and bringing in new ones.

Can't argue with you. I'm really gutted about tonight. We fell short tonight on so many levels..

bit of a bogey wrote: »

Am I the only one not buying into this KI bullsht!!
Rumours hes a £10M player-not a chance!! He wouldnt cope with the pace of the game in England! He drives me mad! Looks pretty on the the ball but has no impact on a game except from the odd shot.

He's too slow, grand to pass the ball backwards but he gives no drive or intensity to the game. Thats been a consistant problem with Celtic with him in the middle. Generally plenty of possesion but they are creating no chances!

He is no step up from Crosas or Donati. Drives me mad, especially listening to people stating he is our only decent player!!

Nah Ki's only 21, he has a big future. I've always rated him, the way he keeps the ball is unreal, probably the best player at the club with the ball at his feet. That's open to debate but I do think he's a player that will have a big future in the game when he leaves us.

bobmalooka wrote: »

would the fact these guys couldnt secure europa league football not cool the interest in them.

Thats what our backroom team need these players to think, might get them to pull the finger out

Any scout watching the likes of Kayal, Izzy and Ki would think they're fantastic players imo.

Dempsey wrote: »

Kayal was useless tonight, too many players believing their own hype. Casual Ki would get slaughtered in the EPL, SLAUGHTERED. Why would these players command a fee again??

Majstorovic should be strung up for his part tonight.

Dempsey in fairness Kayal wasn't 100% fit. He did try his best though.

Maybe I'm being too apologetic to them but I really rate Izzy, Kayal and Ki. Think they're really good players that could have a great career at the top level.

Celtic FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2011/2012

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