Royal Rumble fallout thread

Bounty Hunter · 25-01-2016 3:32pm #1

People shouldn't really have to wade through all of the live thread for the fallout of The Rumble so here's this thread.

now to write some nonsense so that it's what shows up if someone hovers their mouse over the thread instead of spoilers
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Ok thats enough of that

It's 2016 and this happened:

on a more positive not it does mean Ronan Reigns is not the champ anymore. On a less positive note their match is now bound to be the Mania main event nobody wanted.

AJ styles debuted in the WWE and could have a feud with Kevin Owens though which is nice. Sami Zayn is potentially on the main roster too and alos could be once again feuding with the ever popular Mr Owens.

Becky & Charlotte were given time, present like they mattered and the crowd didn't sh!t on it plus now Sasha is in the mix so... cool (hope Becky doesn't drift outta the mix though)

anywhoo poll to follow (and the other thread will be closed in an hour or so) but what do you all think?

Stereomaniac · 25-01-2016 3:40pm

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I'm pretty happy with how the Royal Rumble match went. Triple H winning made sense in the end. I was never a fan but I began getting excited when he came out last night, ha ha. Hopefully we get a good rematch out of him and Roman Reigns. You never know, it might end up being himself vs. Dwayne Johnson either, which apparently they've wanted a while now. The New Day were amazing as usual and deserve to just hold those championships for the foreseeable future. The match was really good and it feels to me like they're just improving steadily with each match we see them in. They did well even though it felt like this match with The Usos didn't get all that much build on television. I was delighted to see Kalisto beat Alberto Del Rio again and regain the United States Championship. There were a couple of moments in the match where I think he was actually knocked loopy but it all made sense within the context of the match.

A Primal Nut · 25-01-2016 3:45pm

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Not too fond of the booking but it was still a very enjoyable show. All the matches were at least good and it had one of the best Rumble matches in a long time.

Regarding Becky, they killed her momentum stone dead especially when Sasha kicked her out of the ring like a sack of spuds. She was just a stepping stone on the way to Sasha-Charlotte at WrestleMania which is a shame as she was doing really well. But if Sasha-Charlotte is the plan for WrestleMania then what happened last night made perfect sense.

A Rogue Hobo · 25-01-2016 3:55pm

Thought it was a really good show! Not a bad match on the card, some things I would have done differently but it was still enjoyable. The idea of of AJ against Owens, Jericho, Zayn, Neville, Bray and Brock are very exciting! HHH being champ is fine by me, regardless of his age he's still one of the best of all time and can still go end of story. Once Roman doesn't main event mania then I'm happy, he has a lot of potential but he just isn't there yet so I don't want him forced into us. curious to see fastlane now.

Also, AJ's theme is sick!!

CastorTroy · 25-01-2016 3:56pm

So everyone is talking about HHH facing Reigns. But doesn't Ambrose get a shot as being the last guy in the ring besides HHH. I know Reigns technically is owed a rematch, but maybe Ambrose gets HHH at Fastlane.

ricero · 25-01-2016 4:02pm

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I think it will be y2j vs ambrose for ic title last night as had been suggested. I think ambrose eliminated jericho last night

Lithium93_ · 25-01-2016 4:39pm

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Royal Rumble undercard was solid, well booked considering how bipolar WWE's booking can be, the only the downside the Royal Rumble match itself was predictable as hell.. But then again with the injuries piled high, they did what they had to..

A Brad Maddox Guy · 25-01-2016 4:53pm

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I made my feelings pretty clear on the other thread so won't repeat them here. Gave the show an 8, really enjoyed everything other than Reigns' booking. Not sure how interested I am in seeing Reigns against HHH in the main event of WrestleMania, or Brock against Wyatt but looking forward to seeing what they do with Owens, Sami, Styles, Ambrose, Sheamus & Jericho. The New Day badly need another few tag teams to fight though, I like the Usos but the feud should be done after last night.

brianregan09 · 25-01-2016 5:13pm

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Was it just me that marked out like **** when aj styles stood across the ring from reigns there's money in that match down the line for definite, I love how Cole and jbl put him over like hell toO when he came out

Ruu · 25-01-2016 5:20pm

I don't think we'll ever see Ambrose getting to hold the world title.

magnumbud · 25-01-2016 5:30pm

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CastorTroy wrote: »

So everyone is talking about HHH facing Reigns. But doesn't Ambrose get a shot as being the last guy in the ring besides HHH. I know Reigns technically is owed a rematch, but maybe Ambrose gets HHH at Fastlane.

i think the issue with giving the belt the HHH considering the whole thing is the authorithy getting the belt off of roman is that it is now completely obvious what will happen in the world title frame in the next 2 monthsish to WM.

Firstly reigns somehow ends up getting into the frame of a no 1 contender-ship match at fastlanes. i feel hhh will likely not defend the title until WM now.
odds stacked up against reigns at fastlane but he just about does it. maybe its him vs lesner and the wyatts attack lesner leading to his win and building to lesner vs wyatt. he gets beaten down repeatedly by the new day and league of nations up to WM where he overcomes the odds likely with some help maybe from the rock and the usos to beat hhh as they couldn't in their right minds keep the title on him beyond WM at this stage of his career.

far more interesting in it for me would have been reigns win and have to defend at fastlanes with a side match determining the no.1 title match leading the uncertainty of him having the title by WM or who will face him i would have wyatt face him at WM and win and put luke harper who is hugely talented with the help of the rest of the family in a story vs lesnar

tupac_healy · 25-01-2016 5:30pm

Somewhat surprised that (if I recall correctly) Brock was throw out by guys that were elimated! Haymen is going to bring this to light and get him thrown straight into the main event imo.... He will give it all that 'My client should champ right now' and all that

CSF · 25-01-2016 5:38pm

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Brock Lesnar does not get out of bed for Luke Harper. Tbh even Bray Wyatt isn't really worthy of Brock at Wrestlemania.

Lithium93_ · 25-01-2016 5:42pm

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Ruu wrote: »

I don't think we'll ever see Ambrose getting to hold the world title.

Well certainly not while Vince is still around... After Vince, anything is possible.

Lithium93_ · 25-01-2016 5:48pm

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CSF wrote: »

Brock Lesnar does not get out of bed for Luke Harper. Tbh even Bray Wyatt isn't really worthy of Brock at Wrestlemania.

It would've been a great match, had Bray been built up properly, and not blowing hot and cold like he does, but yet the WWE will push ahead with it, because the roster is so depleted w/injuries..

It'd be a squash & an easy payday for Brock.

CSF · 25-01-2016 5:58pm

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Lithium93_ wrote: »

It would've been a great match, had Bray been built up properly, and not blowing hot and cold like he does, but yet the WWE will push ahead with it, because the roster is so depleted w/injuries..

It'd be a squash & an easy payday for Brock.

Yeah kinda this, if Bray was something that wouldn't relegate Brock by losing, with the Wyatt Family involved it could have been interesting.

But it would be an outrage if Lesnar lost after Bray getting his ass kicked by Reigns all year, and that doesn't make for a great feud.

Jester252 · 25-01-2016 6:53pm

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The only thing that sucked is Brock being shoved down the card to face The Wyatts. They needs a re-tooling fast. The Wyatt family aren't a dominate force despite the booking against Kane, Big Show and Henry. Brock owned all three of the big men in the rumble and after a "four on one beat down", Brock just walked away. How are they a threat?

Just go all 1999 and have HHH vacates the title and we get a match between Dean and Brock/Sheamus for the title at Fastlane. Also have HHH and Roman in a cage match to become the number one contender for the title at WM.

Jester252 · 25-01-2016 6:53pm

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The only thing that sucked is Brock being shoved down the card to face The Wyatts. They needs a re-tooling fast. The Wyatt family aren't a dominate force despite the booking against Kane, Big Show and Henry. Brock owned all three of the big men in the rumble and after a "four on one beat down", Brock just walked away. How are they a threat?

Just go all 1999 and have HHH vacates the title and we get a match between Dean and Brock/Sheamus for the title at Fastlane. Also have HHH and Roman in a cage match to become the number one contender for the title at WM.

brianregan09 · 25-01-2016 7:23pm

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Having watched it out now finally I have to say they set it up masterfully to keep the crowd from ****ting on it,

Had AJ and Jericho come in early and last ages

The person to throw out AJ A fan favourite in Kevin Owens

Kept him in there until Sami Zayn came in and threw him out

Kept Sami in there until just before Brock came in

And had Strowman obliterate Kane and Big show the two people complained most about

and having Ambrose one on one with Triple H aswell at the end.......

Putting the title on the line they booked themselves into a corner in the final 2 there was only one winner, but if the title wasn't on the line you could have had Ambrose win and had two months then to build him for Wrestlemania

brianregan09 · 25-01-2016 7:23pm

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Having watched it out now finally I have to say they set it up masterfully to keep the crowd from ****ting on it,

Had AJ and Jericho come in early and last ages

The person to throw out AJ A fan favourite in Kevin Owens

Kept him in there until Sami Zayn came in and threw him out

Kept Sami in there until just before Brock came in

And had Strowman obliterate Kane and Big show the two people complained most about

and having Ambrose one on one with Triple H aswell at the end.......

Putting the title on the line they booked themselves into a corner in the final 2 there was only one winner, but if the title wasn't on the line you could have had Ambrose win and had two months then to build him for Wrestlemania

Diabhal Beag · 25-01-2016 8:30pm

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Styles being brought in as a huge deal is unthinkable when you look at it from 2005 eyes like meself. The closest you got is Matt Hardy doing a run-in. Now we have the most un-WWE signings coming.

And also Jericho is the absolute worst. Sucked the life out of the match and stayed in 40 minutes too long. He's so past it.

Furious-Red · 25-01-2016 8:42pm

SlickRic · 25-01-2016 9:50pm

It's incredible.

WWE spend months, nay years, making sure their heels cheat to win big matches.

Not HHH.

He gets to win as clean as a fúcking sheet.

If only they booked their other heels like HHH, the roster might not be in the fúcking state it's in.

beakerjoe · 25-01-2016 10:18pm

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SlickRic wrote: »

It's incredible.

WWE spend months, nay years, making sure their heels cheat to win big matches.

Not HHH.

He gets to win as clean as a fúcking sheet.

If only they booked their other heels like HHH, the roster might not be in the fúcking state it's in.

Exactly. Ive np problem with their booking expect that only a McMahon gets this kind of treatment.

brianregan09 · 25-01-2016 10:32pm

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He came in at number 30 and the two main threats were taken out by factions....not as clean as you think

SlickRic · 25-01-2016 10:44pm

brianregan09 wrote: »

He came in at number 30 and the two main threats were taken out by factions....not as clean as you think

If it had been Rollins, do you think he'd have got to throw out Reigns and Ambrose like he did?

Honestly?

HHH came off like a star. He didn't back down from anyone and beat people pretty much straight up. It's a pity they're too scared to book other heels like him.

Do you think HHH is going to lose matches regularly on RAW now? Do you think he'll look weak? Or do you think he'll be any overbearing bully who you'll look forward to seeing getting his ass kicked - like most main event heels in history.

HHH was booked correctly last night. It's just fúcking ridiculous that no other heels get booked like that.

brianregan09 · 25-01-2016 10:50pm

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See I think it's WWE's own fault they've booked themselves in to a massive corner with there anti booking of the likes of Wyatt, Ambrose, Reigns and Rollins etc

There hasn't been anyone bar Lesnar and Cena booked strong in the last 3-4 years and all this see saw booking of the lower to upper mid card has screwed the capability of all the up and coming guys, There's a lot of things to blame here but I don't think Triple H is one of them

brianregan09 · 25-01-2016 10:50pm

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See I think it's WWE's own fault they've booked themselves in to a massive corner with there anti booking of the likes of Wyatt, Ambrose, Reigns and Rollins etc

There hasn't been anyone bar Lesnar and Cena booked strong in the last 3-4 years and all this see saw booking of the lower to upper mid card has screwed the capability of all the up and coming guys, There's a lot of things to blame here but I don't think Triple H is one of them

super_furry · 25-01-2016 10:57pm

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I really like the Wyatts and think they could have been this big, dominant group who can terrorise and drive someone crazy but they've and in particular Bray have spent the last 18 months losing every big match. WWE have made them into a bit of a joke and now we're suddenly expected to see them as a threat to the companiy's biggest baddest beast.

A Primal Nut · 26-01-2016 12:47am

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Would you say that taking into account the buildup, storyline*, the match itself and post-match angle that this was the best women's match on the main roster.

*I actually got emotional during the video package.

The only mark against it is the ending, losing because of a jacket over her head but I guess that's not Becky or Charlotte's fault. If Becky had won after all that build-up it would have been amazing. Oh well.

A Primal Nut · 26-01-2016 12:47am

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Would you say that taking into account the buildup, storyline*, the match itself and post-match angle that this was the best women's match on the main roster?

*I actually got emotional during the video package.

The only mark against it is the ending, losing because of a jacket over her head but I guess that's not Becky or Charlotte's fault. If Becky had won after all that build-up it would have been amazing. Oh well.

riffmongous · 26-01-2016 1:46am

Just a few little points that bug me, since everything else has already been said, but Brock kicking out the Wyatt family members looked really bad, like he was directing them over the ropes rather than throwing them and then having him just slinking off after getting eliminated instead of going for revenge also made him look pretty weak.. but I hate this nonsense of people coming back in to eliminate others or just interfering, it makes no sense at all, even for wrestling, why doesn't everybody just do it? It's my main rumble pet peeve

johnnyryan89 · 26-01-2016 2:11am

Was an alright Rumble, they kinda didn't ruin it but I'm sure putting the belt on the line in the match they kinda tied their hands behind their own backs in what they could do in not having the fans shit all over it. They could have done some things maybe a tad differently like not have Brock look somewhat weak in the match, the stupid spot with Roman and the league of nations because why wouldn't Vince have them throw him back into the ring plus when he made his return to ring he looked fresher then he did before he started match after being beating down.

Marked out like crazy when AJ Styles came out but they could have had him maybe eliminate one or two guys before being tossed out by Owens which looks like it's gonna set up a feud going into Mania but I hope they stick with him and Owens until Mania. The last man standing match was good but I think they can top it. Have them have one last match at Mania for the title in a street fight, give them more then 20 minutes and I'm sure they could put on a performance to rival possibly the best street ever in Cactus Jack vs. HHH.

Was pretty upset we didn't get to see Samoa Joe though :mad:

gimmick · 26-01-2016 10:40am

Without having read anything of note since watching my opinion sare not being clouded by anyone.

Opener was a good fun hardcore match. Though it occured to me that basically every match is a last man standing match in theory. But thats being pedantic.

The wimmins match was fun. Some peak Ric Flair involved. The ending was a bit silly. But the Sasha bit was a bit of fun again.

Now, the Rumble itself. Teh match was fine. Opened a few fueds, some nice spots and a bit of comedy, but HHH winning in 2016 is such a pile of crap. There is only one reason for it and that is to get RR over. No, sorry, 2 reasons, HHH is such an egotist that he thinks he is the man to get over this charisma vacuum. HHH has no place being a Champion in 2016.

They say they are crying out for a new top level guy. Well, Ambrose was it. Him winning the Rumble after what he had done earlier in the night with Owens would have put him right over the top as a top level guy. But no. Tripper wanst to main event again because Im sure he thinks the company needs him.

Also, after RR was eliminated by HHH and lost his title, he was going to feel pretty crap that the odds were stacked against him, and then the mid match attack. Why didn't he help Ambrose and screw HHH as pay back? It might have gone some way to getting him over.

I call bullshít on this awful clusterf of booking.

I imagine the HHH bash thread will be fun for the next few weeks.

Angron · 26-01-2016 11:42am

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I feel fairly indifferent to the show really. Opener was the best match of the night, it was great just seeing Owens and Dean batter each other. Tag match wasn't new or exciting really since the Usos have been fighting New Day on and off for most of last year. Nice to have Sasha back, not a fan of another screwy finish though. Nice that Kalisto won the title, and didn't immediately lose it again the next night too.

As for the Rumble match: Bar the debut of AJ, the rest of it was balls. While not as aggressively awful as the previous two years, it was still crappy. Roman gets attacked, taken to the back so he conveniently misses like half the match, and then comes out again, no selling the attack? Owens came out limping, and even Dean was taped up and kept swinging his arm to try and loosen up his shoulder. I do not want Roman vs Triple H at Mania, Triple H should not be a world champion at this point in his bloody career.

JP Liz V1 · 26-01-2016 1:30pm

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I actually thought Jericho was going to win

Loved seeing Styles being in

aaaaaaaahhhhhh · 26-01-2016 2:34pm

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brianregan09 wrote: »

and having Ambrose one on one with Triple H aswell at the end.......

Putting the title on the line they booked themselves into a corner in the final 2 there was only one winner, but if the title wasn't on the line you could have had Ambrose win and had two months then to build him for Wrestlemania

Near the end I was expecting reigns to get back into the ring, turn heel on Ambrose, cost him the RR and join the authority

sky88 · 26-01-2016 3:08pm

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aaaaaaaahhhhhh wrote: »

Near the end I was expecting reigns to get back into the ring, turn heel on Ambrose, cost him the RR and join the authority

i honestly thought when hhh and ambrose were across the ring for each other, they were going to meet in the middle embrace and that starts ambrose heel turn but alas that 30 seconds i was completly worng

Agent Coulson · 26-01-2016 4:58pm

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AJ's proper entrance

Glico Man · 26-01-2016 7:33pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMQogEkyUL8

Dat pop tho

johnnyryan89 · 26-01-2016 7:38pm

Agent Coulson wrote: »

AJ's proper entrance

I think that will go down as the greatest Rumble entrance ever.

sky88 wrote: »

i honestly thought when hhh and ambrose were across the ring for each other, they were going to meet in the middle embrace and that starts ambrose heel turn but alas that 30 seconds i was completly worng

I thought when HHH eliminated Reigns that Ambrose was gonna throw HHH over the ropes as he was celebrating. That way you could still have HHH vs. Reigns at Mania but without the belt and over the next two months have Reigns slowly turn heel and have him fully turn at Mania against Ambrose. Have him do what he done to HHH at TLC to Ambrose.

Lithium93_ · 26-01-2016 7:44pm

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Had to mute the commentary when AJ debuted, Michael Cole's shrieking was unbearable.

Omackeral · 26-01-2016 7:55pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Had to mute the commentary when AJ debuted, Michael Cole's shrieking was unbearable.

I disagree. I thought the commentary team did an immense job of selling him as a big deal that night. From Cole's ''could it be?!?'' to JBL touting his IWGP Championship win ''just like Brock Lesnar'' thereby placing him in a top tier, to Byron Saxton saying Styles is an exciting innovator of offense. It was presented as a major big deal. Couple that with an Orlando hometown-like pop and the rumours, not to mention going one on one with golden boy Reigns, and I don't see how they could've done it any better.

johnnyryan89 · 26-01-2016 8:07pm

Omackeral wrote: »

I disagree. I thought the commentary team did an immense job of selling him as a big deal that night. From Cole's ''could it be?!?'' to JBL touting his IWGP Championship win ''just like Brock Lesnar'' thereby placing him in a top tier, to Byron Saxton saying Styles is an exciting innovator of offense. It was presented as a major big deal. Couple that with an Orlando hometown-like pop and the rumours, not to mention going one on one with golden boy Reigns, and I don't see how they could've done it any better.

Yeah I thought they done a good job of it at the Rumble but it got on my nervous how many times they mentioned oh he's in the big leagues now on Raw. Was okay when Jericho done it to him but the commentators just went over board.

Jester252 · 26-01-2016 8:32pm

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When did Ric Flair become Jiraiya

Seriously what was that about?

Jester252 · 26-01-2016 8:32pm

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When did Ric Flair become Jiraiya

Seriously what was that about?

J. Marston · 26-01-2016 9:02pm

Imagine that debut if it had been kept completely secret? There would've been heart attacks.

Omackeral · 26-01-2016 9:37pm

J. Marston wrote: »

Imagine that debut if it had been kept completely secret? There would've been heart attacks.

I avoided spoilers since December (haven't been on here much) and was marking out majorly!!!

J. Marston · 26-01-2016 9:43pm

Omackeral wrote: »

I avoided spoilers since December (haven't been on here much) and was marking out majorly!!!

I envy you. To see that as a complete surprise would've been crazy!

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