Living off the grid...

enda1 · 05-05-2011 5:43pm

Daegerty wrote: »

Hydrogen cars havn't been distant since the 70's.

Like more efficient solar panel.

I work for an automotive company. Trust me (or not, its up to you) but commercial mass produced hydrogen vehicles will be seen in this decade.

InTheTrees · 05-05-2011 5:46pm

Confab wrote: »

He doesn't bother making his own soap then.

The DMT dulls the stinkiness.

Daegerty · 05-05-2011 5:50pm

enda1 wrote: »

I work for an automotive company. Trust me (or not, its up to you) but commercial mass produced hydrogen vehicles will be seen in this decade.

I hope so. always thought you were a politician myself

dlofnep · 07-05-2011 5:40pm

I started watching loads of documentaries since reading this thread. It really is an interesting concept. Downloaded Off the Grid: LifeOn the Mesa. It was pretty decent, but everyone there seemed to be escaping from something.

Another documentary shows a Canadian guy and his family building a house off the grid, definitely worth the watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoVjXV2cfus (All the other parts are on youtube). Seems like an incredible amount of work, but they seemed happy in the end. They used solar power, and a wind turbine.

Watched some other videos of a guy who lives in a kitted-out van, and makes enough money for food and petrol with a metal detector on the beach. Says he clears up to $100 a day with coins, or more if he finds a watch.

I really do like the green movement, I just wish technology was a little more advanced so that it would be realised on a more larger scale.

Daegerty · 07-05-2011 7:06pm

dlofnep wrote: »

I really do like the green movement, I just wish technology was a little more advanced so that it would be realised on a more larger scale.

Its getting better all the time, you can easily buy 17% efficient solar panels and a few years ago you couldn't get a decent LED bulb that wasn't blue. Unfortunately the sedentry xbox & facebook based lifestyle has people more dependent on electricity than ever

Herb Powell · 07-05-2011 8:03pm

KungPao wrote: »

I'd love to do it.

I'd like to live like that old dude in Red Dead Redemption, who you collect the flowers for.

Just me and the missus in a hut, in the middle of nowhere.

Shaggin away at the aul corpse

kumate_champ07 · 07-05-2011 8:09pm

Pace2008 wrote: »

A friend of mine knows a hippy lad who lives alone completely self-sufficiently. Tends and eats his own crops, has a little well dug (bit dubious about that part as crusties are pretty averse to water), grows weed like it's nobody's business and even makes his own DMT!

Happy as a pig in ****e by all accounts.

does he sell the weed? because that would negate the rest of it

Fukuyama · 08-05-2011 12:21pm

Guys. For anyone who is serious about dropping off the grid COMPLETELY :

http://liveitreal.webs.com

niallers1 · 02-08-2018 10:45pm

enda1 wrote: »

I work for an automotive company. Trust me (or not, its up to you) but commercial mass produced hydrogen vehicles will be seen in this decade.

Youve about 18 months left:D:D:D:D

Effects · 02-08-2018 10:52pm

enda1 wrote: »

I work for an automotive company. Trust me (or not, its up to you) but commercial mass produced hydrogen vehicles will be seen in this decade.

Only 18 months for them to take off so!

Roger Hassenforder · 02-08-2018 11:00pm

Was chatting to a chap who works in social welfare. He was telling me, surprisingly a lot of people live off the grid in Ireland.
Dont work, dont draw dole, dont engage with public services.

4ensic15 · 02-08-2018 11:37pm

Effects wrote: »

Only 18 months for them to take off so!

There are about 29 months left in this decade!

Purple Mountain · 02-08-2018 11:40pm

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Was chatting to a chap who works in social welfare. He was telling me, surprisingly a lot of people live off the grid in Ireland.
Dont work, dont draw dole, dont engage with public services.

Drugs?

niallers1 · 02-08-2018 11:41pm

when does this decade end

Thought it would be in 2020 ? It's the 8th month of 2018 now.

4ensic15 · 02-08-2018 11:42pm

niallers1 wrote: »

when does this decade end Thought it would be in 2020 ? It's the 8th month of 2018 now.

The second decade of the 21st century (this decade) will end at the end of 2020.

somefeen · 02-08-2018 11:46pm

Buying a boat would be the easiest way to do it.

Sadly though there used to be an old fella living in a boat around cork when I was a kid. He was totally out of his mind though. Always wondered how ended up there and what happened him.

niallers1 · 02-08-2018 11:46pm

ok, so the mass production of hydrogen would still want to get a wriggle on

Feisar · 02-08-2018 11:49pm

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Was chatting to a chap who works in social welfare. He was telling me, surprisingly a lot of people live off the grid in Ireland.
Dont work, dont draw dole, dont engage with public services.

Really? I'm not disputting your statement I just find it hard to believe. Like what do they do for a crust, hunt? Where do they use for shelter? Possibly their great granny's cottage. Water, could be provided by a well. With a bit of land for spuds and veg it may be doable. Keep a few chickens for eggs, a pig and a goat or two. I don't know what the craic with having cattle is unregistered? It's not that long ago that's how people lived, by Dad was rared in a tatch cottage till the age of ten and he's only sixty now.

unkel · 02-08-2018 11:49pm

Interesting zombie thread revival

enda1 wrote: »

I work for an automotive company. Trust me (or not, its up to you) but commercial mass produced hydrogen vehicles will be seen in this decade.

Toyota perhaps? They completely mis-gambled on hydrogen and "self-charging" hybrids. Should have gone full EV instead

Easy to say now, back in 2011 I too thought hydrogen was the next step. A good few years ago it became clear that hydrogen is a passed station now for passenger cars.

MadDog76 · 03-08-2018 12:05am

niallers1 wrote: »

when does this decade end Thought it would be in 2020 ? It's the 8th month of 2018 now.

You're right, it does..... this decade will end in 17 months or so.

topper75 · 03-08-2018 12:18am

The book on McCandless is good. Anything by Jon Krakauer is good.

But there is better on this theme - Stranger in the Woods by Michael Finkel.

Graces7 · 03-08-2018 7:13am

Feisar wrote: »

Really? I'm not disputting your statement I just find it hard to believe. Like what do they do for a crust, hunt? Where do they use for shelter? Possibly their great granny's cottage. Water, could be provided by a well. With a bit of land for spuds and veg it may be doable. Keep a few chickens for eggs, a pig and a goat or two. I don't know what the craic with having cattle is unregistered? It's not that long ago that's how people lived, by Dad was rared in a tatch cottage till the age of ten and he's only sixty now.

I knew many market traders like that. The house was a family house, yes, Many rural houses have wells....

They do not pay taxes. See them vanish from the market when "the revenue" are spotted.

Living without power etc is another thing altogether but easy enough when you get organised. Last winter I was without power here and did fine. Many rural houses have turbary rights so a solid fuel stove ...

NIMAN · 03-08-2018 7:36am

Feisar wrote: »

Really? I'm not disputting your statement I just find it hard to believe. Like what do they do for a crust, hunt? Where do they use for shelter? Possibly their great granny's cottage. Water, could be provided by a well. With a bit of land for spuds and veg it may be doable. Keep a few chickens for eggs, a pig and a goat or two. I don't know what the craic with having cattle is unregistered? It's not that long ago that's how people lived, by Dad was rared in a tatch cottage till the age of ten and he's only sixty now.

I'd say numbers are very very low.

Signore Fancy Pants · 03-08-2018 7:37am

I live off the grid.

I grow my own veg, grow my own meat, buy my water in Lidl.

I dont have any electronic devices or the internet. Cant say anymore, theyre watching me.

Roger Hassenforder · 03-08-2018 7:45am

Feisar wrote: »

Really? I'm not disputting your statement I just find it hard to believe. Like what do they do for a crust, hunt? Where do they use for shelter? Possibly their great granny's cottage. Water, could be provided by a well. With a bit of land for spuds and veg it may be doable. Keep a few chickens for eggs, a pig and a goat or two. I don't know what the craic with having cattle is unregistered? It's not that long ago that's how people lived, by Dad was rared in a tatch cottage till the age of ten and he's only sixty now.

I got the impression there were more than you 'd think!

pleas advice · 03-08-2018 7:49am

4ensic15 wrote: »

The second decade of the 21st century (this decade) will end at the end of 2020.

So 1990 was in the 80s?

"The 60's ended for me that day in 1974"

4ensic15 · 03-08-2018 7:50am

MadDog76 wrote: »

You're right, it does..... this decade will end in 17 months or so.

The end of 2020 will be in about 29 months.

pleas advice · 03-08-2018 8:30am

And we will enter the 20's in about 17 months. Time is a continuous thing, it can be divided up arbitrarily, it didn't just come into existence at 00:00 UTC on the 1st of January 1 AD

4ensic15 · 03-08-2018 8:34am

pleas advice wrote: »

And we will enter the 20's in about 17 months. Time is a continuous thing, it can be divided up arbitrarily, it didn't just come into existence at 00:00 UTC on the 1st of January 1 AD

20's ????

4ensic15 · 03-08-2018 8:50am

pleas advice wrote: »

And we will enter the 20's in about 17 months. Time is a continuous thing, it can be divided up arbitrarily, it didn't just come into existence at 00:00 UTC on the 1st of January 1 AD

Time started in BC!

Aceandstuff · 03-08-2018 8:57am

The Unix epoch began 1 January 1970 00:00:00 UT
That was the beginning of time as we know it.

Del2005 · 03-08-2018 9:04am

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Was chatting to a chap who works in social welfare. He was telling me, surprisingly a lot of people live off the grid in Ireland.
Dont work, dont draw dole, dont engage with public services.

How many ID's do these people have? Plenty of people in this country have multiple "valid" PPSNs, very easy to forget about some if they start getting investigated.

Graces7 · 03-08-2018 12:41pm

Del2005 wrote: »

How many ID's do these people have? Plenty of people in this country have multiple "valid" PPSNs, very easy to forget about some if they start getting investigated.

Why would they be investigated?

Graces7 · 03-08-2018 12:48pm

Daegerty wrote: »

Just because you want to live off the grid doesn't mean you want to live in the stone age

It can become a compromise. My five months with no electricity last winter were fine but I had a cell phone and yes, missed the internet for communications etc. Bought a small battery radio.

Else lived very simply.. hand washing fine. Solid fuel stove for hot water etc..

Different for each but taken to extremes it takes over the whole of life.

unkel · 03-08-2018 12:52pm

Buy an early Nissan Leaf for about €6k. Every day, drive to your nearest fast charger and charge the car up for half an hour. This is completely free.

Then drive home and connect it to your house. Off grid for free

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADqk4IjzjXs

Average Irish household uses a bit under 10kWh per day. This cars battery is 24kWh, so can power the house for several days

niallers1 · 03-08-2018 1:16pm

Game changer will be when you can really use the car battery to power your house. Nissan were to bring out Leaf to home but no sign of it yet. Charge at work or charge station like you say and power your house with it

MadDog76 · 03-08-2018 10:30pm

4ensic15 wrote: »

The end of 2020 will be in about 29 months.

True but this decade end's 12 months before that.....

unkel · 03-08-2018 11:03pm

niallers1 wrote: »

Game changer will be when you can really use the car battery to power your house. Nissan were to bring out Leaf to home but no sign of it yet. Charge at work or charge station like you say and power your house with it

You can. Nissan developed the technology after the Japanese disaster in 2011. You can buy the hardware but it's expensive.

The most obvious solution going forward. To have all EVs attached to the grid so utility companies can take from them at peak time (and pay you for it) and charge the car at night time. This is called V2G (vehicle to grid). Several utility companies around the world are running trials on this right now. I wish there was one in this country that had a clue about these things and would ask me to become a volunteer

Capt'n Midnight · 03-08-2018 11:12pm

enda1 wrote: »

I work for an automotive company. Trust me (or not, its up to you) but commercial mass produced hydrogen vehicles will be seen in this decade.

The car isn't the problem hydrogen powered cars with electric ignition have been around for over 200 years.

Making and storing hydrogen is.
It takes a lot of room to store the stuff and it takes a lot of energy to make it.

Viscount Aggro · 04-08-2018 3:16pm

I know of 2 off-grid households near me - no planning permission. They dont give a f***.

Living inside farmshed, complete house built inside, have no monthly bills. If you can do it, makes sense, but not too many females would be interested. Anyone snoops around - had better run faster than an alsatian.

A lot of modern life is bull****, keeping up with the Jones.

Del2005 · 04-08-2018 4:50pm

Graces7 wrote: »

Why would they be investigated?

Welfare fraud.

Graces7 · 05-08-2018 4:53pm

Del2005 wrote: »

Welfare fraud.

But the poster you were replying to said they..

"Dont work, dont draw dole, dont engage with public services".

Concern would be they don't pay tax either. ie they work secretly and think that as they do not use dole etc they do not need to pay tax.

Graces7 · 05-08-2018 4:54pm

Viscount Aggro wrote: »

I know of 2 off-grid households near me - no planning permission. They dont give a f***.

Living inside farmshed, complete house built inside, have no monthly bills. If you can do it, makes sense, but not too many females would be interested. Anyone snoops around - had better run faster than an alsatian.

A lot of modern life is bull****, keeping up with the Jones.

Why would they need planning permission? I am sure they do, but ..myob?

Donald Trump · 05-08-2018 5:06pm

' Yo.
Science.
What is it all about? Techmology.
What is that all about? Is it good or is it whack? There is a bloke from round my hood, Staines, called Rainbow Jeremy, who reject everything to do with science.
He just chill at home, he smoke his own home-grown, and check this - he don't have a telly.
I ain't shitting you.
He don't have a telly.

He lives in a house, though.
That house is a product of technology.

He got no techmology, you can check his website.

Donald Trump · 05-08-2018 5:07pm

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

The car isn't the problem hydrogen powered cars with electric ignition have been around for over 200 years.

Making and storing hydrogen is.
It takes a lot of room to store the stuff and it takes a lot of energy to make it.

Simple solution?

Run the hydrogen off the electricity and the electricity off the hydrogen

Living off the grid...

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