War Thunder first tank gameplay

Canis Lupus · 07-08-2014 2:18pm

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

It's the first F2P game since Mechwarrior Online that I've actually been prepared to put some cash into.

Off topic but man I've tried a couple of times to get into MWO. Makes no freaking sense to me.

Maximus Alexander · 07-08-2014 2:30pm

Canis Lupus wrote: »

Off topic but man I've tried a couple of times to get into MWO. Makes no freaking sense to me.

Yeah it's probably not that great a game in truth, a large part of my good will towards it probably comes from sentimentality since I loved the older MechWarrior and MechCommander games growing up.

Canis Lupus · 07-08-2014 2:42pm

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Yeah it's probably not that great a game in truth, a large part of my good will towards it probably comes from sentimentality since I loved the older MechWarrior and MechCommander games growing up.

I love Mechwarrior but from a noobs perspective I've no idea what's going on from trying to sort out loadouts to doing effective damage and so on. So far most games I've played involve a few minutes of staring at enemy mechs in the distance you can't shoot followed by 'incoming missile' alerts and then getting shot to **** despite being behind cover.... I've been trying there all evening to play it and just gave up in disgust. It's not noob friendly at all.

Nody · 07-08-2014 2:55pm

I bought the original maximum package (4 gold mechs for 150 USD or what ever the price tag was as I could not make up my mind which one I wanted) but I've not gone back to play it. I'm a tad annoyed with the number of new money mechs released since to say the least and the fact there's no focus on the game and all on making more money mechs peeved me off that I'm simply waiting at this stage for an official release (and regretting funding them as I did back then).

Maximus Alexander · 07-08-2014 3:02pm

I did the same with the Phoenix package that they brought out late last year. In fairness, I probably got my money's worth and will get more out of it in future, but I've taken an extended break to let them get community warfare in, since there's been a dearth of new content apart from just... more mechs.

With regard to it not being noob friendly, you're right, it's definitely not. The interface is pretty clumsy for a start. I did find it to be worth sticking with though as it's quite tactical and it's great fun to tinker with and optimise your mechs for your style of combat. There's a great website called MechSpecs.com where people share their loadouts and have them rated which is a good place to start if you're struggling in that regard.

Tenger · 08-08-2014 4:24pm

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Yeah it's probably not that great a game in truth, a large part of my good will towards it probably comes from sentimentality since I loved the older MechWarrior and MechCommander games growing up.

Same with myself. I loved both of those games and have reinstalled them a couple of times for nostalgia. (I have read all 50+ BattleTech books and have even kept my old Technical Readouts from the 1990's when I played the board game)

But I didn't 'get' MWO. It felt awkward and they really seem to be milking the players with all the new mech and 'unique' variants that are thrown out every few weeks.

ED E · 17-08-2014 1:08pm

MWO didnt work well with a joystick when I tried it, very much designed for a mouse. This turned me right off it.

Going to try WT today as months later WoT still runs like ****.

Potatoeman · 18-08-2014 12:33pm

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

I must say I've been having a lot of fun with this and enjoying it far more than I ever did WoT. Although, in the interest of full disclosure, I haven't played WoT in about 2 years so I have no idea what state it's currently in.

I really like the lack of a HP system meaning that a well placed shot can destroy a tank in one hit, or indeed a well concealed tank can be virtually impossible to kill without maneuvering to a better position. I also love the subtle strengths and weaknesses of each variant that lead to very distinct play styles for each one, along with the fact that if I don't like a variant I am not obliged to play with it in order to research to the next tier.

It's the first F2P game since Mechwarrior Online that I've actually been prepared to put some cash into.

One thing I find off putting is the disparity between Russian and German aircraft. I was working my way through the German fighter trees rather slowly and painfully, getting murdered at every turn. I just assumed I was a horrifically bad pilot, until I tried Russian aircraft and am now murdering everything in an I-15! :pac:

Different planes at different tiers are better. The Russians are pretty solid and the best at the start. The British at spitfire tier one are good and hold solid from there. The Americans kick in later,the Aerocobra up are pretty great. The Japanese bombers are awful at early tiers but the later ones are suppose to be great. The Germans have a feel, I liked some more that others.
So it all kind of evens out in some way.

BlitzKrieg · 18-08-2014 3:33pm

One thing I find off putting is the disparity between Russian and German aircraft. I was working my way through the German fighter trees rather slowly and painfully, getting murdered at every turn. I just assumed I was a horrifically bad pilot, until I tried Russian aircraft and am now murdering everything in an I-15!

Depends on a lot of factors

Firstly in arcade Russians are strong in almost all levels because if infinite ammo, Russian planes carry big guns that hit hard and fast but carry little ammo putting points in your reload speed makes for dangerous ruskies.

But arcade you just need to understand what you are firing, how much of it you have before reloading and how tight you can turn, once you know that not much more

Realistic though is much more demanding

Germans are weak early tier but get quite strong midtier when your teams start consisting of 109s and fw190s and nothing else. The 109 out climbs almost everything at each of its tier and the fw enjoys excellent roll and heavy firepower

When you start seeing a lot of b17s that's when you research the me410 as they currently out turn the p51 and murder b17s

Americans suffer initially from being a very diverse nation they have all sorts of planes which makes their teams very hit and miss but they also have the best bombers in the game.

Uk is just awesome for spitfires. All of them, early ones can tear off a wing turning too tight diving too fast but every spit has some part of it that makes it a charm

Japan is just awesome dogfighting, best turning planes in the game (all of them, including the bombers and heavy fighters) but sloooow

Russia in realistic hit hard but can run out of ammo or steam very quickly if you are not careful, tend to be more sniper like then other nations

Maximus Alexander · 18-08-2014 3:35pm

I never played arcade, only realistic. I still found it much easier to get kills in the Russian aircraft. I couldn't kill anything in the Bf 109 for whatever reason.

Potatoeman · 18-08-2014 3:43pm

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

I never played arcade, only realistic. I still found it much easier to get kills in the Russian aircraft. I couldn't kill anything in the Bf 109 for whatever reason.

The Germans have more of a feel than other nations. When you find one you like you will keep coming back to it. It also depends what you are flying against. For me the Japanese seem to be put in with higher tiers so I usually have a hard time with them.

BlitzKrieg · 18-08-2014 3:46pm

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

I never played arcade, only realistic. I still found it much easier to get kills in the Russian aircraft. I couldn't kill anything in the Bf 109 for whatever reason.

109s are tricky but once you get the hang of them very rewarding (5 if my top 10 planes are 109s) they are not boom and zoomers like the Russians and Americans and not great turners either like the Brits and japs just pure energy planes they climb like mountain goats especially when you run just the nose cannon in the later models. The trick is to climb high fast keeping your speed above 270km at almost all the time while climbing and around 400 when diving. Then shallow dive enemy planes, pull up hard stall roll and hammerhead them as they struggle to chase you. Which is sort of the trick with 109s for most of the game as long as you keep high and keep the speed up most enemy planes will struggle to catch you, only the yaks come close. So patience and watching enemy from above waiting for him to burn his altitude or speed on something else before striking is the key.

British and Americans will always struggle to chase the 109s in mid tier (the griffon spit and bearcat change this) the only issue are American bombers can be a massive pain and the Russian I-185 and la5 can if left alone to climb and climb will become a massive pain in your arse

Maximus Alexander · 18-08-2014 3:51pm

Maybe you've nailed my problem, I don't know how to energy fight. If I can't turn fight or boom and zoom I'm all out of ideas.

BlitzKrieg wrote: »

British and Americans will always struggle to chase the 109s in mid tier (the griffon spit and bearcat change this) the only issue are American bombers can be a massive pain and the Russian I-185 and la5 can if left alone to climb and climb will become a massive pain in your arse

It's funny you should say this because these in particular were guaranteed to kill me every time in the Bf 109. Most other things I could kill from time to time, or escape from, but once these engaged me I was toast. La-5 in particular seemed to always be faster than me, out climb me, and out maneuver me. I'd be on the cusp of rage quitting.

BlitzKrieg · 18-08-2014 4:17pm

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Maybe you've nailed my problem, I don't know how to energy fight. If I can't turn fight or boom and zoom I'm all out of ideas.

It's funny you should say this because these in particular were guaranteed to kill me every time in the Bf 109. Most other things I could kill from time to time, or escape from, but once these engaged me I was toast. La-5 in particular seemed to always be faster than me, out climb me, and out maneuver me. I'd be on the cusp of rage quitting.

Ahh la5 rage, I know it well, truthfully they pissed me off too a lot, until I actually flew them myself and felt how they handled, best thing to do is get a feel for each plane if you are struggling against them, once you know how they handle you find it easier to kill them

La la's of doom if I remember handle a lot like the fw 190, they roll very nicely and have 3 really annoying shvaks in the nose, but they are not great at diving if I remember correctly the 109 can be pushed just a bit further then them in a dive which can give you a small bit of breathing room, they're also nose heavy I think, they climb well in the opening if a game at a casual 15-20 degree but they are not the best of getting the nose up quickly try vertical yo yo and see if it helps when being pursued

Though I've been working and will be continue doing so for the next 2 weeks so can't give you some hands on advice.

BlitzKrieg · 25-08-2014 8:39pm

Yeah the bf 110 was under appreciated for a long time, especially during the broken fighter scourge (the beau fighter at one point was a nightmare to fight at low levels) but it gets some love these days as it's got solid firepower with plenty of ammo making it a good plane to fire at long range with the 151 cannons. You can easily pilot snipe anyone foolish to head on you and compared to other heavy fighters it's quite agile.

But it's very different to the do 217 later on which is just a tank for taking damage and the me410 feels weak initially but the later models are monsters especially the last one the b6 which spits out more lead at close range then any other plane in the game I think (maybe the 262 spits more) making it the best bomber killer in the game.

Smiles35 · 28-08-2014 1:26pm

According to the Dev blog the J7W1 is getting put in the next patch. I have most of the Jap line reserched so I'm waiting on planes like this. It's like waiting for moar Dinosuars for Jurrasic park.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqdMqlt-c-8

BlitzKrieg · 28-08-2014 5:46pm

I have the entire jap tree researched so new blood like that is always appreciated

Smiles35 · 10-10-2014 3:13pm

New patch 1.43 out.

BlitzKrieg · 01-01-2015 4:40am

Quick update

they recently added the american tech tree (or the beginning of it) to war thunder in a patch along with a lot of other nifty features including:

working bow machine guns/50 cal turrets/mounts on a number of vehicles (not all of them)

tow Ropes for pulling tanks that have fallen over or have had their engine shot out

repair assistance to speed up repairs by working together

new artillery system that gets rid of the uav spy camera and uses a map now

new maps! Eastern Europe is fantastic, one of the best maps in the game

lots of technical updates

new vehicles for almost every nation new german/russian tanks, new british jet attacker, new japanese fighters (including the awesome j2m) a new american jet and of course a tonne of american tanks stretching up to tier V with the m103.

The game shockingly made the m3 lee not only fun to play but an effective tank killer when using the 37mm/75mm as a one/two punch.

worth checking out at least if you havnt already.

Smiles35 · 02-01-2015 9:17am

BlitzKrieg wrote: »

new vehicles for almost every nation new german/russian tanks, new british jet attacker, new japanese fighters (including the awesome j2m)..

J2M woot! I didnt even see that added to the tree. B17's watch out!

BlitzKrieg · 31-01-2015 2:46pm

Check out this weekend events for a unique war thunder experience.

They've turned off spotting in an event version of realistic battles for tanks and planes meaning you need to spot the enemy vehicle physically, no icons to help.

Very intense gameplay with a lot of ambush and flanking gameplay.

even aircraft get a great twist as you need to identify what you are diving on by its shape/speed etc.

well worth checking it out

War Thunder first tank gameplay

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