Devils Passage, Corcaigh Park

The story continued
i was a kid and had the ability to see things when i was a teen i was hearing a voice calling my name it kept calling my name saying break the barrier and set me free of course i got freaked and ran wasnt untij things really started gettin crazy somthing kept drawing me back to find out what it was and why it was tormenting me.
I started seeing things into the past and what i saw was pure evil

I saw alot was chased by two ghost dogs and a very tall dark figure

To be honest im sick of tryin to tell others i gave up years ago when i tried to tell somne and they just lauiee at me the dogs im not sure were they came from it seemp to me that the tall dark figure is a guardian of somthin whatever it is i have tried for years to find out but nothing there are more than one there the last time i tried to show someone were the dead was i was called a nut job a weirdo lauied at made a joke of

With regards to things, I do remember that incident somewhat (give me a break, it has been a few years now), and also vaguely recall how the environment felt... well, unsettling in places. It's rather hard to put one's finger on it to be honest, though I do recall hearing stuff too that night. Heh, gives me a shudder thinking about it. I do recall going round the general area with a conventional camera too at another point, and I have the photos somewhere which had some rather anomalous artifacts in them, though I haven't looked at them in great detail lately. I'm unable to scan them in either at the moment, as I haven't gotten around to setting up my scanner as of yet.

Now, before someone dismisses it as convenient, I'd like to add that I haven't been much involved in the paranormal/ghost hunting lately, so honestly it's mostly been at the back of my mind. In fact, the last time I did anything paranormal related was when I went back to Ireland for the Dublin Paranormal Convention, which was in either 2010 or 2011, can't recall off the top of my head. I couldn't recall exact specifics right now, but I would agree with my friend spirithunter that there's something kinda off with things round that area.

That said however, not everyone is either (as) sensitive to their environment or will believe things that are said, regardless of if pproof of something is shown. I myself have a spiritual leaning, but equally, I realise that most people won't believe what I tell them, seeing as they're rather cynical, or they demand proof which I'm unablle to provide. after 8 years (on and off) of being in the paranormal gig, I've kinda had a more balanced outlook of things, to the extent that I'd ideally want to try to get proof to back up my feelings/assertions, but ultimately, that's not always possible. The next time I go out on the field though, I'll be a bit more procedural with things, but at the same time, I'm not going to expect any evidence for what I sense.

Sometimes, the only evidence of something is what you feel yourself, and that's not good enough for most people. I understand why, but that doesn't mean the sceptic/cynic should dismiss people as crazy. I'm not aiming this at anyone in particular, I'm just saying it in general. Either way though, we believe what we choose to believe in many cases, evidence or not. I myself am sceptical of certain things in another area, because I feel it defies the laws of physics. And while I believe that minor changes can happen, I don't believe what is claimed can happen. I'll not say what this area is, because people have difficulty believing in what it is, let alone the thing I'm tackling.

Point is that even if you believe in something, it is still possible not to believe (and/or want evidence of) certain aspects of what is being claimed within that belief.

Er, I'm rambling again... so I'll stop now. I'm not even sure if the above makes sense, but hopefully it does. I will try to elaborate where possible though.

I will when i get my laptop fixed i have a couple night shots and like i said you wont believe me ynuou wanted the truth and i delivered but take my warning strongly dont go hunting the hunter wil become the hunted and when you are be prepared for what you will have come after you and storm keeper knows i dont **** with stuff like this it almost killed me

stormkeeper wrote: »

Sometimes, the only evidence of something is what you feel yourself, and that's not good enough for most people. I understand why, but that doesn't mean the sceptic/cynic should dismiss people as crazy. I'm not aiming this at anyone in particular, I'm just saying it in general. Either way though, we believe what we choose to believe in many cases, evidence or not. I myself am sceptical of certain things in another area, because I feel it defies the laws of physics. And while I believe that minor changes can happen, I don't believe what is claimed can happen. I'll not say what this area is, because people have difficulty believing in what it is, let alone the thing I'm tackling.

Point is that even if you believe in something, it is still possible not to believe (and/or want evidence of) certain aspects of what is being claimed within that belief.

Well, as physics applies primarily to that of physical phenomena, I would not worry too much about the laws of physics in regards an area that is considered transcendent to the natural world
We could go as far as saying there is a variation of "physical" law in a different plane/dimension, but it would be (in the case of particular paranormal phenomena) applicable to its own plane rather than our own. (Disregarding for now alternate realities of equal physical planes etc., I'd be going too far away now).

When it comes to knowledge and attempts to convince another of one's views, your testimony is a form of evidence. We take testimony in the courts for example as a form of evidence. It is of course, a much weaker form, but sceptical people should be sceptical not so much on your account (even though they would not know you), but the idea of the paranormal because they have no experience in the field. I have never been abroad, but I take it for granted from a post I read online once that there is a town X in country Y that has a club called Z. Why? No empirical evidence, don't know the person posting at all - but it is a common form of testimony you may hear all the time. My friends at different times may talk about shop A, B or C in Dublin and I will go looking. Now, I have a little experience in the paranormal, and I listen to a lot of testimony (from those I know too), and would be more open to evidence by mass testimony in that field. On what basis had I truly ever had to believe anymore that there was a club called Z in town X in country Y? The fact that it could be more readily proven or disproven?

What then if we changed around and said there is a colourful bird known in a particular area to appear possibly every 7 days or so for a few minutes? We could stake out for a whole week and maybe catch a glimpse. If a place was genuinely haunted, a 7 day stay may easily suffice as time to perceive something paranormal. The difference in believing one testimony over another seems only to be in how mundane it is (credibility comes into account on the person whose testimony it is, and on again, the experience of birds "being around", rather than for example, a walking, toothed-octopus who appears every 23.4 days in a brief flash of lightning) - but for those with a little experience in the paranormal, then they would be a lot more open to it.

So here's what I am trying to get at (looking back now at how much I have gone on about this, too much epistemology almost unrelated to what we're dealing with here ). The sceptic's problem is sometimes expecting proof from others, rather than to try gain the experience in it. Then, when a person provides a testimony of what has happened, the sceptic is more readily inclined to disagree - there would be better backing for example, if the sceptic had attempted to seek experience (and a reasonable amount - I have never gone bird watching for example, I would want to get a lot before I can attest to there being a rare bird) but never found.
Of course, some of your proof comes from your own subjective feelings - not everyone would share the same wavelength of susceptibility to such activity as you do, hence they may never feel what you may feel in that area - but as I write below, the usual balance of rationality, open-mindedness, experience and practice etc. etc., the usual mixture people often talk about (this is leading onto a different discussion so enough of this!!).

So, from your testimony, added to many others in this thread, I think it is worth having a look around this area. Of course, a closed-mind is not so much not receptive to such activity, but almost subconsciously preemptively denies most sensibilia. However, having prior belief that the area may be haunted may cause almost an opposite effect for some whereby every little stimuli causes an adverse reaction and one may assert every occurrence in reference to the paranormal. For the sceptic though, keeping an open-mind but rationally levelled should help one make up his/her mind.

As for me, I'd like to take a look around, I'm more believer than sceptic, but very rational at the same time to distinguish casual or causal occurrences from those of a more unique nature. Innocent until proven guilty; I like that dictum, as horrific as it may be for others, and almost contradictory to this final paragraph


Good God I am sorry if what I wrote seems completely irrelevant to what I quoted of you - I just liked what you wrote and wanted to add some stuff to it. Too much philosophy these days I'm afraid

I wrote this all out pretty quick so I'm sure there is a mistake somewhere or bits I may have left out that leaves parts unclarified so please have at me
(There is even a whole load more I am sure can be added to what I wrote, but I'll keep it at this for now; better to tackle certain sections if people bring them up, rather than trying to do so now in case some bits are clarifying or agreeable enough as it is - not saying anything is right though)

RedFFWolf wrote: »

Good God I am sorry if what I wrote seems completely irrelevant to what I quoted of you - I just liked what you wrote and wanted to add some stuff to it. Too much philosophy these days I'm afraid

It's cool I think you basically were replying to my entire post, but chose that quote to start from. Thank you

stormkeeper wrote: »

It's cool I think you basically were replying to my entire post, but chose that quote to start from. Thank you

No probs! It seems that the problem is the trivialisation of what is technically a complex matter, and using this trivialisation as an antagonising matter against a complexity - either treat both as trivial or both as complex, and then move onto the deeper elements (move from trivial to complex). Yeah, I've had to face the whole conclusion of "sure it doesn't matter anyway 'cause none of it exists anyway" before

That probably wasn't that clear . One way I mean this is say for example sometimes the likes of a picture can be disproven instantly, but when some people use the rejection of one sample evidence as conclusive evidence against the whole matter (i.e., the whole matter not being the claim that this picture captured a ghost but that the area is haunted) is bad argumentation, and incorrect use of logic (shift from existential to universal quantifier, it's a logical fallacy)

Ok fair enough im not goin on what i believe im going on what i know and i am not joking and yes myjaptop is broke also i refuse to go back there even to get pics you wanted answers i gave you answers
not bull**** i also warned you against that place and others well its up to you to listen or ignore yes i do know alot about that place and how dangerous it is the place feeds on fear anger anything on them lgnes if you mock them theyll come after you.
I respect others beliefs and i know what the horse and carriage are

kryogen wrote: »

Now are you also Stormkeeper yes? Have you been checked for a duplicate account that has conversations with yourself?

I'll answer your post later (maybe), but how dare you accuse me of being a duplicate account without proof. Spirithunter is a friend of mine, and I'm well known to people on these boards, seeing as I have organised investigations in the past and there are physical photos of me up online. If you have an issue with he and I being supposed clones, then bring it up with the forum moderator and not accuse either of us of being duplicates.

I think you'll find however that my ISP is in the UK, while Spirithunter's is in Ireland, just to put your mind at ease. In light of what you have accused us of, I am debating if I should even answer your post to me now, seeing as you think I don't exist. On that basis, it doesn't matter what I say anyway as you'll discard it.

If you actually took the time to observe our styles of writing, you'd notice they're completely different. But it seems you're more interested in aggrivating people, so why should I give you the time of day? Once you've decided to cop on, I might be interested in talking to you, but for now, I will no longer directly respond to your posts, and I say that as speaking for myself, Stormkeeper and no one else.

Spent my teenage years in that park. Drinking, chasing women and generally acting the maggot. Have heard all the stories that have been mentioned here.

Once the sun started to go down we got the hell out of that park. It's a strange strange scary place. Never seen anything out of the ordinary but you did feel scared.

15 odd years later reading this tread and I got the creeps once again.

Question for the ghost hunting people.. If a homeless man was there for years on and off, why did nothing ever happen him??

spirithunter wrote: »

I saw alot was chased by two ghost dogs and a very tall dark figure

How do you know they were ghost dogs? Did they have corporeal form?

This place is near the baseball pitch, I take it? Whats the quickest way out if things get a bit bogey?

Im also very interested in paranormal stuff. I came across this thread a few days ago and found it very interesting, i live beside corkagh park but have never heard of this 'devils passage', so curiousity made me go up yesterday, I found it very easy, but there was No way in, the big gate is locked , 'danger keep out sign', and i climbed up to the open window, but didnt dare make a jump for it as it was a long jump down.
i seen three kids jumping the wall though, and within 5 mins they legged it out and squeezed under the gate, looking terrified and sweat pouring out of one of them, i asked innocently 'whats in there', the terrified child said 'nothing nothing', i asked him why he was sweating and in such a hurry, then said 'its freaky in there, theres a floating tree and a jersey hanging', before i got to ask more, the three of them legged it off as quick as lightening.
I walked around the whole area of the wall,to try find a way in, Im sooo curious now to get in there now and see it with my own eyes.
Does anyone know why it is locked up?? Or if there is another way into the place?