Arsenal Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2011/2012

Redzer7 · 01-02-2012 12:12am

Russian transfer window not closed til the end of Feb? Arshavin still has time to pack his bags so, even if we haven't got a replacement it'll knock a few digits off our wage bill and give somebody else a chance who actually deserves it.

DB10 · 01-02-2012 12:30am

Tough game tomorrow, we seen what Bolton can do at home when they ruined Liverpool a while back.

Impossible to know who will turn up, the Arsenal of the first half against Villa, or the second half. All I know is away from home we are dreadful right now and a 4th defeat on the spin can basically kiss 4th place goodbye with tougher games to come.

Is Miyachi going to play?

amiable · 01-02-2012 12:33am

DB10 wrote: »

Tough game tomorrow, we seen what Bolton can do at home when they ruined Liverpool a while back.

Impossible to know who will turn up, the Arsenal of the first half against Villa, or the second half. All I know is away from home we are dreadful right now and a 4th defeat on the spin can basically kiss 4th place goodbye with tougher games to come.

Is Miyachi going to play?

Liverpool were awful that night and the effort wasn't there so IMO if Arsenal turn up and play to their potential they should win against Bolton.

greendom · 01-02-2012 12:44am

DB10 wrote: »

Tough game tomorrow, we seen what Bolton can do at home when they ruined Liverpool a while back.

Impossible to know who will turn up, the Arsenal of the first half against Villa, or the second half. All I know is away from home we are dreadful right now and a 4th defeat on the spin can basically kiss 4th place goodbye with tougher games to come.

Is Miyachi going to play?

I wouldn't think so

Fuzzy_Dunlop · 01-02-2012 1:37am

DB10 wrote: »

Saha to Spurs, very frustrating they seem to be getting another defender as well.
We need players more than they do, and nothing.

Henry on loan for 2 months is all we got, it's pathetic.

Spurs alos lost Pavlyuchenko, Pienaar and Bassong. I'd probably argue they're worse off to be honest. Everton and QPR are the only real winners this window as far as I can tell.

Ryo can't play against us being his parent club.

Frisbee · 01-02-2012 2:28am

So that's surely proved beyond doubt now that profits are more important than football.

At least we can all free up our Tuesday nights now.

cson · 01-02-2012 7:03am

I hope we flog them.

I'd be there finances permittting.

MagicMarker · 01-02-2012 9:22am

Wilshere out for the season?

Daily Mail so.....

Drexel · 01-02-2012 9:49am

MagicMarker wrote: »

Wilshere out for the season?

Daily Mail so.....

Sounds familiar. The day after the transfer window closes

Frisbee · 01-02-2012 9:50am

As soon as I heard Wenger utter the words 'leetle setback' I accepted we'll see Jack play a maximum of 2 or 3 games at the very end of the season.

Don't worry though, we have a reserve player from Dortmund to save us.

Radharc na Sleibhte · 01-02-2012 9:57am

Frisbee wrote: »

Don't worry though, we have a reserve player from Dortmund to save us.

True, funny, heartbreaking.
If we dont win tonight, im gonna do something, not sure yet what, but im gonna do it.

Lahinchians · 01-02-2012 12:06pm

Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote: »

Ryo can't play against us being his parent club.

As far as i know he can play against us if both clubs agree to it. I'm also pretty sure Wenger came out a while back and said that he would never stop a loaned player from playing against us and that other managers do stop loaned players from doing it is stupid. or something to that effect...

Snakeblood · 01-02-2012 1:18pm

Lahinchians wrote: »

As far as i know he can play against us if both clubs agree to it. I'm also pretty sure Wenger came out a while back and said that he would never stop a loaned player from playing against us and that other managers do stop loaned players from doing it is stupid. or something to that effect...

I thought he said it was bad that they couldn't play, but that the regs were that they couldn't, regardless of agreement between clubs.

Gringo180 · 01-02-2012 2:48pm

Hope to god Wilshere isnt out for the rest of the season, bye bye Champions League football if he is

Lahinchians · 01-02-2012 3:39pm

Snakeblood wrote: »

I thought he said it was bad that they couldn't play, but that the regs were that they couldn't, regardless of agreement between clubs.

Just checked there and you are absolutly correct. It's only in cups that the player can play against the theam they are registered with. I think that where my confussion came from.

amacachi · 01-02-2012 3:47pm

SSN saying Wilshere's got a stress fracture. Sigh.

Snakeblood · 01-02-2012 3:49pm

amacachi wrote: »

SSN saying Wilshere's got a stress fracture. Sigh.

Wilshere tweeted that it's not in the same place as the other one, and is smaller, so hopefully it'll be healed faster. No idea of return date though. Pessimist in me thinks the season, but you never know.

To Lahinchians, no probs, I had an argument about this in the pub the other night so I googled it the other day.

Marty McFly · 01-02-2012 3:59pm

Id love to say im angry about the whole Wilshere scenario, but im not I think its what everyone expected really wait till the transfer window closes then release statements saying Wilshere has suffered a stress fracture and they still dont know how long hell be out for some medical team we have it took this long to realise it was a stress fracture guess the x ray machine was broke :rolleyes:.

Theres no excuses for not signing someone when they knew this was the case, and by that I dont mean Hleb back who were being linked with today a player whos huffed and puffed a bit since he left Arsenal but done nothing of note, a player with a lot of skill but even as an Arsenal player could frustrate the hell out of yeh.

Hope Ramsey whos been looking tired already doesnt mnd playing nearly every game. Come the summer there has to be serious changes to our transfer policy.

keano_afc · 01-02-2012 4:07pm

I never expected to see Wilshere this season, so it doesnt really anger me at all.

What will annoy us is when RvP gets his injury, another window gone by with no support bought for our brittle main man.

Snakeblood · 01-02-2012 4:11pm

keano_afc wrote: »

I never expected to see Wilshere this season, so it doesnt really anger me at all.

What will annoy us is when RvP gets his injury, another window gone by with no support bought for our brittle main man.

RVP just needs to use Arshavin as an organ bank.

Pepe LeFrits · 01-02-2012 4:43pm

I'm pinning my hopes on FFP. It'll stop City's rise, return Chelsea to the doldrums and restore us to our cherished position as the club that picks up all the trophies left over when United miss a beat!

Yeah...

Fuzzy_Dunlop · 01-02-2012 4:50pm

Anyone got any stats for how many games we've won that arteta has played a part in? Just out of curiosity. I'd imagine its quite good!

tayto lover · 01-02-2012 5:07pm

jonny666 wrote: »

Sounds familiar. The day after the transfer window closes

Did I not predict all this weeks ago ?
The patterns at Arsenal are easy to follow, spend nothing, say players are returning soon and when the transfer deadline passes then announce setbacks.
We are a selling club and only interested in profits.
You can be sure that when Chelsea dropped points last night we will go out and do the same tonight too.

Marty McFly · 01-02-2012 5:30pm

Pierce_1991 · 01-02-2012 7:35pm

Radharc na Sleibhte wrote: »

True, funny, heartbreaking.
If we dont win tonight, im gonna do something, not sure yet what, but im gonna do it.

DON'T DO IT!

emergingstar · 01-02-2012 8:55pm

Eisfeld having a stromer for the reserves

Dercola · 01-02-2012 10:16pm

If I'm being honest, I'd rather Wilshire missed the rest of this season.. As soon as I heard the words "minor setback" I thought the most we'd see of him this season, is one or two games at max.
It would sicken me to see him miss the season for us, get in a couple of games towards the end, and then to see him go to the Euro's with England.

Selfish I know, but if it is a season ender for him. I hope he doesn't get any football between now and August

How many times have we had one of our players rushed back from injury, in order for them to play for their country...

Drexel · 01-02-2012 10:54pm

Nothin much to say after the Bolton match that hasnt been said before. Our form in the last 4 matches is now loss,loss,loss and draw. Brutal. Bolton have one of the worst defenses in the PL this year. We should have fu*kin battered them. Instead we were hanging on for a draw towards the end.

We are now 7th in the league. The worst of the best of the rest. Sunderland are 7 behind us. With a better goal difference

Souless · 01-02-2012 10:54pm

Well lads back to depression after the FA cup get outta jail free card

Was never gonna be an easy game but at the same time we needed the 3 points, got a tough run coming up after Blackburn on the weekend

tony1kenobi · 01-02-2012 10:56pm

Hurrah! First point of the year!.

tayto lover · 01-02-2012 10:58pm

One place ahead of Stoke !!!!
Just where we deserve to be.

ImpossibleDuck · 01-02-2012 10:58pm

Walcott's inability to play football astounds me. I seriously hope we're not even considering renewing his contract.

KeithAFC · 01-02-2012 10:59pm

Souless wrote: »

Well lads back to depression after the FA cup get outta jail free card Was never gonna be an easy game but at the same time we needed the 3 points, got a tough run coming up after Blackburn on the weekend

Should have been an easy game. Bolton were shocking and we had 2-3 easy chances in the first half. Should have been at least 2 or 3 nil to Arsenal at HT. But again, Walcott fails to deliver and Van Persie just could not find the net. But the others don't contribute enough. Ramsey lost the midfield battle again and allowed far too many counter attacks onto the back 4 in the 2nd half.

Soups123 · 01-02-2012 11:02pm

Pro's
Sagna, Arteta & Oxo(not savage tonight but threatened).

Bull****
Theo playing 90 mins, he is a dreadful player, it's a disgrace at this stage his involvement in the first team.
Ramsey, spends to much of the game. Flicking, chipping and playing pointless balls over the top, should not be a guaranteed starter like he is, Rosicky should be starting ahead of him.
Song, we're has he gone?
Henry, not good enough for this level anymore.
Wenger, **** formation dispite what he says we play 1 up front not 3 we lose too many balls when VP wins it as he is isolated. How we play will always result in plenty of corners & fk's yet he hasn't a clue how to get the team to use them. He has one idea how to play no plan B even ****ter teams have a plan B. I just don't see any real fight in him anymore and that is reflected in the players its all stale, he should come out like others do and public demand more from the players show some ****in fight. I support Wenger and want to see him succeed but this isn't good enough.

Tonight and last 4/5 league games was just a team out and about no real appetite, drive, effort. I can handle transition but this isn't that we are a club developing talent 4 others!

Rant over!

Marty McFly · 01-02-2012 11:06pm

Fcuking disgrace!!! At this stage I just want this season over and done with I cant see our league form improving a whole lot. Song and Ramsey have been terrible of late but who have we got better to bring on.

Wenger and the board can spout on about finances all they want but its about time they realised without success there will be no money and if they let things slide to far it will be very hard come back.

No top players want to play in teams not in the champions league, so we wont get top drawer players, revenues will fall all over with no champions league money rolling in, attendances will drop, fan base will drop as there will be no new young fans coming on board buying jerseys etc time to buck up or fcuk off that goes to the players, the board and the manager.How long can we go on watching this slide downwards?

L'prof · 01-02-2012 11:14pm

I didn't even bother watching tonight...thankfully! I might try this more often, I barely go agitated at all even though I know the score!

tayto lover · 01-02-2012 11:14pm

luvbulmers01 wrote: »

Fcuking disgrace!!! At this stage I just want this season over and done with I cant see our league form improving a whole lot. Song and Ramsey have been terrible of late but who have we got better to bring on.

Wenger and the board can spout on about finances all they want but its about time they realised without success there will be no money and if they let things slide to far it will be very hard come back.

No top players want to play in teams not in the champions league, so we wont get top drawer players, revenues will fall all over with no champions league money rolling in, attendances will drop, fan base will drop as there will be no new young fans coming on board buying jerseys etc time to buck up or fcuk off that goes to the players, the board and the manager.How long can we go on watching this slide downwards?

Well we have had this slide for 6 years now and the "in Arsene we trust" gobs***** are still prepared to put up with it.
But we have a lovely stadium even though it will be half empty next year.

Raskolnikov · 01-02-2012 11:15pm

luvbulmers01 wrote: »

No top players want to play in teams not in the champions league, so we wont get top drawer players, revenues will fall all over with no champions league money rolling in, attendances will drop, fan base will drop as there will be no new young fans coming on board buying jerseys etc time to buck up or fcuk off that goes to the players, the board and the manager.How long can we go on watching this slide downwards?

True! Gotze, M'Vila, and Hazard are unlikely to join Arsenal if they aren't in the Champions League, especially considering Arsenal are reluctant to offer the wages that the likes of City have at their disposal.

KeithAFC · 01-02-2012 11:20pm

tayto lover wrote: »

Well we have had this slide for 6 years now and the "in Arsene we trust" gobs***** are still prepared to put up with it.
But we have a lovely stadium even though it will be half empty next year.

That is the thing, it won't be half empty because believe it or not, there is still a lot of passionate Arsenal fans who care about the club. It is like a painful addiction to many at the moment..

Marty McFly · 01-02-2012 11:22pm

KeithAFC wrote: »

That is the thing, it won't be half empty because believe it or not, there is still a lot of passionate Arsenal fans who care about the club. It is like a painful addiction to many at the moment..

Did you not see the game the weekend?

Paleface · 01-02-2012 11:24pm

luvbulmers01 wrote: »

Did you not see the game the weekend?

Correct me if I'm wrong here but don't the away team get a much larger allocation of tickets for FA cup games. May have been the reason for the empty seats.

Gringo180 · 01-02-2012 11:25pm

1 up front again tonight can Wenger not see this formation just doesnt work for us, RVP wasted up front on his own. I can see it a mile away that this team is screaming out for a 4 4 2. So hard being a gooner lately

Marty McFly · 01-02-2012 11:25pm

Paleface wrote: »

Correct me if I'm wrong here but don't the away team get a much larger allocation of tickets for FA cup games. May have been the reason for the empty seats.

Yeh that could be right I dont know, but then again there was plenty of empty seats all round the stadium so that cant be blamed on the away fans.

wandatowell · 01-02-2012 11:25pm

jesus we are sh1t. Though looking at the stats Bolton deserved their draw.

Arsene is still the man, he just needs the funds. So i blame the board. Kronke you are killing us.

but im just a lowly worker bee so my opinion dont mean sh1t.

peace out

p.s. theo jump off a bridge

keano_afc · 01-02-2012 11:27pm

We looked so flat.

If only there was some sort of opportunity to bring players in during the season, some sort of window for transfers. I'm sure the manager would see the shortcomings in the side and address it. Alas.

tony1kenobi · 01-02-2012 11:40pm

wandatowell wrote: »

p.s. theo jump off a bridge

He'd miss the ground.

tayto lover · 01-02-2012 11:46pm

keano_afc wrote: »

We looked so flat.

If only there was some sort of opportunity to bring players in during the season, some sort of window for transfers. I'm sure the manager would see the shortcomings in the side and address it. Alas.

No he wouldn't. He obviously thinks Wally is the bees knees so why do you think he would see our shortcomings. They are there already and he can't seem to see them. George Graham would not have put up with the performances Wenger is putting up with. He would have gone to the board and demanded transfer money or spent what he had. Wenger won't.

Drexel · 01-02-2012 11:54pm

Raskolnikov wrote: »

True! Gotze, M'Vila, and Hazard are unlikely to join Arsenal if they aren't in the Champions League, especially considering Arsenal are reluctant to offer the wages that the likes of City have at their disposal.

Forget about any of them players or players like them. It's never ever going to happen. Champions league or no champions league.

Think we are just going plod along for the next two or three years finishing between 4th - 7th and pray the FFP rules actually mean something. Which they won't.

gnfnrhead · 02-02-2012 12:02am

Paleface wrote: »

Correct me if I'm wrong here but don't the away team get a much larger allocation of tickets for FA cup games. May have been the reason for the empty seats.

I was watching on a stream so it wasnt great quality, but the Villa section looked full. Empty seats every two or three rows throughout the rest of the stadium from what I could see.

keano_afc · 02-02-2012 12:06am

tayto lover wrote: »

No he wouldn't. He obviously thinks Wally is the bees knees so why do you think he would see our shortcomings. They are there already and he can't seem to see them. George Graham would not have put up with the performances Wenger is putting up with. He would have gone to the board and demanded transfer money or spent what he had. Wenger won't.

Dude, I was being sarcastic. Read Gunnerblogs reaction to tonight. Says it all really. We're being sold short by a stubborn manager and a board lying to the fans.

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