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Kevin Kilbane - Player Manager of Sligo?

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  • #182
    plasmaguy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭plasmaguy


    What about Capello? He's unemployed at the moment..

    Slightly tongue in cheek I admit.


  • #183
    Corholio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,014 ✭✭✭✭Corholio


    dreamers75 wrote: »
    http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2012/0223/unsworthd_sligo.html

    He'd probably leave after about 2 weeks anyway and claim he's homesick - again.


  • #184
    Raskolnikov
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,148 ✭✭✭✭Raskolnikov


    AgileMyth wrote: »
    No.
    If he has applied, then surely he is the best candidate by a garden mile?


  • #185
    gustavo
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    plasmaguy wrote: »
    Lawrie Sanchez also started at Sligo Rovers and later managed Northern Ireland and Fulham and was a reasonably successful top level manager.

    It's better to start where there is no pressure, than start at the top.

    Jeff Kenna managed Galway and St. Pats.

    It's in no way unprecedented that Kilbane would do this to be honest.

    Jeff Kenna is hardly a good example to use , I don't see why there would be no pressure either.


  • #186
    bohsman
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    plasmaguy wrote: »
    Lawrie Sanchez also started at Sligo Rovers and later managed Northern Ireland and Fulham and was a reasonably successful top level manager.

    It's better to start where there is no pressure, than start at the top.

    Jeff Kenna managed Galway and St. Pats.

    It's in no way unprecedented that Kilbane would do this to be honest.

    Massive amount of pressure for whoever takes over. Fail to finish top 2 and the club could fall apart type pressure.


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  • #187
    dan1895
    Registered Users Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭dan1895


    plasmaguy wrote: »
    Lawrie Sanchez also started at Sligo Rovers and later managed Northern Ireland and Fulham and was a reasonably successful top level manager.

    It's better to start where there is no pressure, than start at the top.

    Jeff Kenna managed Galway and St. Pats.

    It's in no way unprecedented that Kilbane would do this to be honest.

    Might be good for the manager in question in the long run but probably not for Sligo


  • #188
    CSF
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    bohsman wrote: »
    Massive amount of pressure for whoever takes over. Fail to finish top 2 and the club could fall apart type pressure.
    Eh its the League Of Ireland, how could there be pressure? Pub league.


  • #189
    plasmaguy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭plasmaguy


    gustavo wrote: »
    Jeff Kenna is hardly a good example to use , I don't see why there would be no pressure either.

    Well it looks like he's not going there, but let's imagine for the sake of argument he did.

    First off, Sligo would have small resources..

    So if he wins a few games which might happen, people will say, he did ok with small resources, you hardly expect him to win everything.

    If he loses, likewise the same argument, small resources, etc.

    If he screws up, people will say, ah it was only his first job, small club with small resources, he'll have learned from his mistakes.

    And few people in England will have heard about it.

    If he was to take over at Hull as a first job, that would be huge pressure, as its a lot bigger club than Sligo.


  • #190
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,542 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    plasmaguy wrote: »
    Well it looks like he's not going there, but let's imagine for the sake of argument he did.

    First off, Sligo would have small resources..

    So if he wins a few games which might happen, people will say, he did ok with small resources, you hardly expect him to win everything.

    If he loses, likewise the same argument, small resources, etc.

    If he screws up, people will say, ah it was only his first job, small club with small resources, he'll have learned from his mistakes.

    And few people in England will have heard about it.

    If he was to take over at Hull as a first job, that would be huge pressure, as its a lot bigger club than Sligo.
    You really don't know much about Irish football, do you? Sligo have used massive resources compared to the rest of the Premier Division aside from Shamrock Rovers, and maybe Pats.


  • #191
    dan1895
    Registered Users Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭dan1895


    No pressure? There's massive pressure on Sligo this season as they've been "knocking on the door" the last couple of years


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  • #192
    CiaranC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭CiaranC


    Shur its only the Oirish league


  • #193
    _blank_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    I don't know anything about the Irish League, so I'm going to spoof my way into an argument that I really have absolutely clue about.

    I'm then going to stubbornly stick to my point, even though it's clearly based on ignorance, and I'm furthermore going to try and debate my baseless opinions with people who do what they are talking about.


  • #194
    stovelid
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    Kerr wouldn't be cheap. Plus you have to deal with P1.


  • #195
    aliveandkicking
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 961 ✭✭✭aliveandkicking


    plasmaguy wrote: »
    Well it looks like he's not going there, but let's imagine for the sake of argument he did.

    First off, Sligo would have small resources...

    They have one of the highest budgets in the LOI. Shamrock Rovers would obviously be a bit higher but Sligo wouldn't be far behind.
    plasmaguy wrote: »
    So if he wins a few games which might happen, people will say, he did ok with small resources, you hardly expect him to win everything.

    If he loses, likewise the same argument, small resources, etc.

    Sligo finished 3rd in 2010 and 2nd in 2011. They have won the FAI cup in both 2010 and 2011. They have strengthened their squad again for this season and their fans and board expect them to challenge very strongly to win the league this season. This is the environment Kilbane or any other manager would find himself in at Sligo, he wouldn't get a pat on the back for winning a few games as you put it, he will be expected to be right at the top of the league all season.
    plasmaguy wrote: »
    If he screws up, people will say, ah it was only his first job, small club with small resources, he'll have learned from his mistakes.

    And few people in England will have heard about it.

    If he was to take over at Hull as a first job, that would be huge pressure, as its a lot bigger club than Sligo

    No if he screws up (i.e. he finishes below the top 3 and doesn't win a cup) he will be sacked and regarded as a failure. Sligo right now is not a job for a rookie manager finding his feet. Much better to start in the job at a lower league club in England that are expected to finish mid table at best and who will give a manager 3 or 4 years to build a squad. At Sligo the new manager will be given one season with a squad already assembled and the transfer window closed.

    Ex internationals don't have a great record stepping into management in the LOI. In recent years Jeff Kenna was a failure at Pats and Gareth Farrelly was a failure at Bohs. It certainly didn't do their managerial careers any favours. Neither of them are managing at the moment.


  • #196
    _blank_
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    aliveandkicking wrote: »
    They have one of the highest budgets in the LOI. Shamrock Rovers would obviously be a bit higher but Sligo wouldn't be far behind.



    Sligo finished 3rd in 2010 and 2nd in 2011. They have won the FAI cup in both 2010 and 2011. They have strengthened their squad again for this season and their fans and board expect them to challenge very strongly to win the league this season. This is the environment Kilbane or any other manager would find himself in at Sligo, he wouldn't get a pat on the back for winning a few games as you put it, he will be expected to be right at the top of the league all season.



    No if he screws up (i.e. he finishes below the top 3 and doesn't win a cup) he will be sacked and regarded as a failure. Sligo right now is not a job for a rookie manager finding his feet. Much better to start in the job at a lower league club in England that are expected to finish mid table at best and who will give a manager 3 or 4 years to build a squad. At Sligo the new manager will be given one season with a squad already assembled and the transfer window closed.

    So what, all that means absolutely nothing when you consider he's played for Ireland for years, and has experience managing the Hull reserves, both of these means he's brilliantly equipped for managing a team like Sligo, of which the only thing expected is that you win, or at least very strongly challenge to win the league, it's anothing league, and any clown could do it ffs.

    Your rational arguments have no place on this thread.


  • #197
    Radharc na Sleibhte
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,535 ✭✭✭Radharc na Sleibhte


    aliveandkicking wrote: »
    They have one of the highest budgets in the LOI. Shamrock Rovers would obviously be a bit higher but Sligo wouldn't be far behind.



    Sligo finished 3rd in 2010 and 2nd in 2011. They have won the FAI cup in both 2010 and 2011. They have strengthened their squad again for this season and their fans and board expect them to challenge very strongly to win the league this season. This is the environment Kilbane or any other manager would find himself in at Sligo, he wouldn't get a pat on the back for winning a few games as you put it, he will be expected to be right at the top of the league all season.



    No if he screws up (i.e. he finishes below the top 3 and doesn't win a cup) he will be sacked and regarded as a failure. Sligo right now is not a job for a rookie manager finding his feet. Much better to start in the job at a lower league club in England that are expected to finish mid table at best and who will give a manager 3 or 4 years to build a squad. At Sligo the new manager will be given one season with a squad already assembled and the transfer window closed.

    Ex internationals don't have a great record stepping into management in the LOI. In recent years Jeff Kenna was a failure at Pats and Gareth Farrelly was a failure at Bohs. It certainly didn't do their managerial careers any favours. Neither of them are managing at the moment.

    Excellently put.
    Sligo expects.


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