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Porn actresses have healthier self esteem than other women.

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  • #2
    Red Crow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,139 ✭✭✭Red Crow


    How can you have low self esteem when your pu**y is on demand on the Internet 365 24/7?

    They do it for nothing more than the money. You have to have a certain mindset to be able to take the d1ck on the interwebz. Crazy! But god bless them!


  • #3
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    I am not sure how safe it is to assume that people do porn just for the money. The internet has sites where people make porn and publish it for no other reason than to have other people see it. Pictures, videos, audio, the lot. They make no money from it at all.


  • #4
    Sir Digby Chicken Caesar
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    the people I have the most respect for are the men
    if I make eye contact with myself in the reflection on my monitor I lose my erection, how they can manage it in a studio full of people is beyond me


  • #5
    Littlehorny
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭Littlehorny


    A medical study showed they dont suffer from constipation either, i wonder why?


  • #6
    [Deleted User]
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    I have on a couple of occasions done things in front of people. Some people tend to just focus on the task at hand and forget everyone else is there. Others actually get off on being watched and so it has the opposite effect on them as it does you.

    I think myself - a little of both actually :)


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  • #7
    Spunge
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    i need to go to a cubical to take a piss :(


  • #8
    aaronjumper
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    Nothing like cash in hand for a shot to the face to make you feel like you can do anything.

    They usually look like this: :pac:


  • #9
    squod
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    The arse will never fall out of that business, might fall out of the actresses though.


  • #10
    Father Damo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Father Damo


    Much like harping on nonsense about Eastern Euopean women being trafficked and chained and beaten in brothels against their will (because what man doesnt get turned on shagging a bruised, tearful woman eh!) feminists seem to have some amount of leeway allowing them to spout unproven nonsense. I have never known any girl who has worked in porn (to my knowledge) but have known a few prostitutes, erotic masseuses and strippers (socially, I might add :pac:You would be suprised how many girls get involved it in Australia) Money is the main drive, and behind that is just a general lack of inhibitions.


    Cuktural thing to. There just seems to be less stigma attached to an East European or Korean girl being in this business than some bird from Sligo (have only known of two Irish girls in the aforementioned businesses, it is beyond rare tbh. Same as the way there seems to be about a half dozen, at best, pornos out there with Irish women in them. Cultural stigma of it)


  • #11
    Ush1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,476 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I am not sure how safe it is to assume that people do porn just for the money. The internet has sites where people make porn and publish it for no other reason than to have other people see it. Pictures, videos, audio, the lot. They make no money from it at all.

    There is always advertising on these sites so someone is making money.


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  • #12
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Ush1 wrote: »
    There is always advertising on these sites so someone is making money.

    Oh for sure. But my comment was about the people engaging in the acts on camera and what their motivation is for doing it. Not the people who are providing the service for them to publish it for the world - which is an entirely different thing.


  • #13
    Ush1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,476 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    I read another article talking about the same thing recently and it said compared to normal women they had higher rates of drug addiction, but that was just because of their "experimental nature".

    Ha, more like they were addicted to drugs first and do porn to feed the habit.


  • #14
    Porkchop McGee
    Registered Users Posts: 61 ✭✭Porkchop McGee


    When you've freed yourself from the idea that sex is something to feel dirty or guilty about, why would you have low esteem if something that much fun was your job? Surely sitting in a small cubicle all day like a factory chicken churning through endless meaningless drivel in excel is a far more degrading way to earn an existence?


  • #15
    Ush1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,476 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Oh for sure. But my comment was about the people engaging in the acts on camera and what their motivation is for doing it. Not the people who are providing the service for them to publish it for the world - which is an entirely different thing.

    The article is talking about porn actresses i.e. women that make a living from doing it. Not some people with a camera phone.


  • #16
    Father Damo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Father Damo


    Ush1 wrote: »
    I read another article talking about the same thing recently and it said compared to normal women they had higher rates of drug addiction, but that was just because of their "experimental nature".

    Ha, more like they were addicted to drugs first and do porn to feed the habit.


    But what do they compare these statstics to?

    For example, I once read that something like 45% of Irish people aged 16- 40 (or thereabouts) have taken an illegal drug at least once according to a UN or EU study.

    Of course, this is complete nonsense. It would be easily 90%, maybe more. Most people in that age group who do not generally even agree with drug use have been cajoled into it at least once or twice, usually whilst pissed. I know lad who have eventually taken their one and only pill or line by their mid 20s because they were drunk and wanted to see hat the fuss was about. In all likelihood around 40% of that age group would use an illegal drug at least once a year.


  • #17
    Ush1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,476 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Father Damo wrote: »
    But what do they compare these statstics to?

    For example, I once read that something like 45% of Irish people aged 16- 40 (or thereabouts) have taken an illegal drug at least once according to a UN or EU study.

    Of course, this is complete nonsense. It would be easily 90%, maybe more. Most people in that age group who do not generally even agree with drug use have been cajoled into it at least once or twice, usually whilst pissed. In all likelihood around 40% of that age group would use an illegal drug at least once a year.

    Well self esteem is a difficult thing to quantify in itself.


  • #18
    Father Damo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Father Damo


    Ush1 wrote: »
    Well self esteem is a difficult thing to quantify in itself.


    Come to think of it, it makes sense that an uninhibited woman with a sex addiction can make two weeks of a normal womans pay in a half hour sex scene and spend the rest of her fortnight doing as she pleases while the rest of the world slogs it in the 9 to 5.


  • #19
    Ush1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,476 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Father Damo wrote: »
    Come to think of it, it makes sense that an uninhibited woman with a sex addiction can make two weeks of a normal womans pay in a half hour sex scene and spend the rest of her fortnight doing as she pleases while the rest of the world slogs it in the 9 to 5.

    That's one way to look at it....

    The other is a drug addicted women who is desperate will get air tighted and borderline abused for a couple of bucks, legally.

    But hey, maybe she likes it?


  • #20
    Duggy747
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Cum gurgling seems to be doing wonders for their confidence. :pac:


  • #21
    seamus
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    Ush1 wrote: »
    Ha, more like they were addicted to drugs first and do porn to feed the habit.
    That's a big assumption to make. Nobody wants to see Amy Winehouse or Kate Moss being ridden on screen. I imagine most porn actors and actresses, even if they do dabble in drugs, otherwise probably maintain a fairly clean lifestyle in order to maintain their physique and stamina. There's no way you can spend a day in a shoot if you've had ten pints the night before.

    Nobody wants to see a crack whore or a heroin junkie taking one.


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  • #22
    kfallon
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    Duggy747 wrote: »
    Cum gurgling seems to be doing wonders for their confidence. :pac:

    To be fair I would imagine there is no bigger confidence boost for a lady than someone spaffing all over your bangers tbh :pac:


  • #23
    Porkchop McGee
    Registered Users Posts: 61 ✭✭Porkchop McGee


    Ush1 wrote: »
    That's one way to look at it....

    The other is a drug addicted women who is desperate will get air tighted and borderline abused for a couple of bucks, legally.

    But hey, maybe she likes it?

    That's a real glass-half-empty view of the world. Most of the drug addicts I've met who reach a point of such desperation are seldom easy on the eye due to the destructive nature of addiction, so perhaps you're just a wee bit wide of the mark?


  • #24
    Ush1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,476 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    seamus wrote: »
    That's a big assumption to make. Nobody wants to see Amy Winehouse or Kate Moss being ridden on screen. I imagine most porn actors and actresses, even if they do dabble in drugs, otherwise probably maintain a fairly clean lifestyle in order to maintain their physique and stamina. There's no way you can spend a day in a shoot if you've had ten pints the night before.

    Nobody wants to see a crack whore or a heroin junkie taking one.

    That's a big assumption to make.

    I'm commenting that according to their study there is a higher rate of drug use it porn stars which they put down to their experimental nature. I would counter that with they most likely took drugs before getting into porn.

    Many people can take drugs and you wouldn't be able to tell and I know for a fact there is quite a few pornstars who have and still made films.


  • #25
    Crooked Jack
    Registered Users Posts: 5,678 ✭✭✭Crooked Jack


    Father Damo wrote: »
    But what do they compare these statstics to?

    For example, I once read that something like 45% of Irish people aged 16- 40 (or thereabouts) have taken an illegal drug at least once according to a UN or EU study.

    Of course, this is complete nonsense. It would be easily 90%, maybe more. Most people in that age group who do not generally even agree with drug use have been cajoled into it at least once or twice, usually whilst pissed. I know lad who have eventually taken their one and only pill or line by their mid 20s because they were drunk and wanted to see hat the fuss was about. In all likelihood around 40% of that age group would use an illegal drug at least once a year.

    Of course, complete nonsense. Your own wild guess based on the tiny percentage of the Irish population you have met is obviously much more reliable


  • #26
    Father Damo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Father Damo


    Porkchop McGee wrote: »
    That's a real glass-half-empty view of the world. Most of the drug addicts I've met who reach a point of such desperation are seldom easy on the eye due to the destructive nature of addiction, so perhaps you're just a wee bit wide of the mark?


    Certain drugs take alot more physically than others mind. For example, a crack, ice or heroin addict will experience more rapid body decline than someone on cocaine daily or several times weekly. Lindsay Lohan and Katy Frence apparently were/ have recently been heavy cocaine users, but still looked attractive whereas, say, Winehouse or that heiress woman who died in London a few months back, whose crack and heroin addictions left them ragged.


  • #27
    Ush1
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    Porkchop McGee wrote: »
    That's a real glass-half-empty view of the world. Most of the drug addicts I've met who reach a point of such desperation are seldom easy on the eye due to the destructive nature of addiction, so perhaps you're just a wee bit wide of the mark?

    Well no it's probably a balanced and realistic view of thew world.

    I've met drug addicts that you couldn't tell are drug addicts, depends what type of drugs you're on about. Crack, coke, meth, prescription drugs.....not all make you look like a heroin addict instantly with no teeth.

    What way may I be wide of the mark, the study says there is a higher rate of drug use with them?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2238719/Female-porn-stars-higher-self-esteem-better-quality-life-according-new-study.html


  • #28
    Father Damo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Father Damo


    Crooked Jack wrote: »
    Your own wild guess based on the tiny percentage of the Irish population you have met is obviously much more reliable


    Indeed it is.

    Cheers.

    If these survey figures were accurate this country would not have any level of a sustainable drug trade.


  • #29
    Crooked Jack
    Registered Users Posts: 5,678 ✭✭✭Crooked Jack


    Father Damo wrote: »
    Indeed it is.

    Cheers.

    If these survey figures were accurate this country would not have any level of a sustainable drug trade.

    It doesn't have a sustainable drug trade. Have you ever tried getting decent acid or pills outside of Dublin or Belfast. impossible.


  • #30
    Andy-Pandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,848 ✭✭✭Andy-Pandy


    I think it's a generational thing, My parents and their peers I can honestly say have never done a drug in their life, where as I dont know anyone that is 35 or under that hasnt taken drugs at least one time in their life, and I know a lot of people.


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  • #31
    [Deleted User]
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    Ush1 wrote: »
    The article is talking about porn actresses i.e. women that make a living from doing it. Not some people with a camera phone.

    Again agreed. But just because they are doing it for money does not allow us to assume they are all ONLY doing it for money. It is not a safe assumption and is one that would require more study.

    The reason I mention the sites where people do it just for fun is to show there ARE people who do it just for fun. I see no reason to assume the two groups are mutually exclusive and there is likely to be overlap between the two.


  • #32
    Gummy Panda
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    I always wanted to be a stunt cock


  • #33
    CruelCoin
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    You get paid to have a healthy sex life and take it up the ass from hunky men.

    There are worse positions to be in in life.


  • #34
    folan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭folan


    Gummy Panda wrote: »
    I always wanted to be a stunt cock

    ewhhh.


    icky


  • #35
    who the fug
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    Andy-Pandy wrote: »
    I think it's a generational thing, My parents and their peers I can honestly say have never done a drug in their life, where as I dont know anyone that is 35 or under that hasnt taken drugs at least one time in their life, and I know a lot of people.

    Suggest you up that 35 by 10 ten to 15 years


  • #36
    TwoShedsJackson
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    Gauss trying to be controversial thread #234563124626


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  • #37
    Gummy Panda
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    folan wrote: »

    ewhhh.


    icky

    What? You are the money shot guy. You get paid to run in, shoot and leave. They cut it so it looks like the main actor


  • #38
    Lyaiera
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭Lyaiera


    CruelCoin wrote: »
    You get paid to have a healthy sex life and take it up the ass from hunky men.

    There are worse positions to be in in life.

    I know you have better things to be looking at during porn, but most of the men are fugly.


  • #39
    kfallon
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    Gummy Panda wrote: »
    What? You are the money shot guy. You get paid to run in, shoot and leave.

    What is it with Pandas and their obsession with shoots and leaves :pac:


  • #40
    Andy-Pandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,848 ✭✭✭Andy-Pandy


    who the fug wrote: »
    Suggest you up that 35 by 10 ten to 15 years

    I've no doubt, but thats not with in my peer group.


  • #41
    Father Damo
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    Deleted User wrote: »

    The reason I mention the sites where people do it just for fun is to show there ARE people who do it just for fun. I see no reason to assume the two groups are mutually exclusive and there is likely to be overlap between the two.


    IMO alot of them do enjoy the exhibitionism side of it. If they wanted it kept quiet and nobody knowing they could just be escorts. Ireland is full of closeted nymphomaniacs who refrain themselves so that word wont go around the parish :pac:


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  • #42
    Porkchop McGee
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    Ush1 wrote: »
    Well no it's probably a balanced and realistic view of thew world.

    I've met drug addicts that you couldn't tell are drug addicts, depends what type of drugs you're on about. Crack, coke, meth, prescription drugs.....not all make you look like a heroin addict instantly with no teeth.

    What way may I be wide of the mark, the study says there is a higher rate of drug use with them?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2238719/Female-porn-stars-higher-self-esteem-better-quality-life-according-new-study.html

    Indeed, but your suggestion was women are turning to porn out of desperation due to drug addiction, how many of the healthy looking users you met are working in the industry or have they not reached that point yet? Do you think those who reach the point of desperation you refer to will still look so healthy when their life reaches such a low ebb that they can see no other choice than pornography? Or is it possible that many just aren't riddled with guilt when it comes to sex and just found something in life they enjoy and, better yet, get paid for and don't people looking for an excuse for them to engaged in?


  • #43
    suicide_circus
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    Gummy Panda wrote: »
    I always wanted to be a stunted cock
    Fyp


  • #44
    Ush1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,476 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Porkchop McGee wrote: »
    Indeed, but your suggestion was women are turning to porn out of desperation due to drug addiction, how many of the healthy looking users you met are working in the industry or have they not reached that point yet? Do you think those who reach the point of desperation you refer to will still look so healthy when their life reaches such a low ebb that they can see no other choice than pornography? Or is it possible that many just aren't riddled with guilt when it comes to sex and just found something in life they enjoy and, better yet, get paid for and don't people looking for an excuse for them to engaged in?

    It has absolutely nothing to do with physical, or certainly external, deterioration as I have said before.

    Just because someone doesn't look sick does not mean they aren't addicted to drugs. Different drugs, different side effects but almost always the same addictive desperation.

    Porn is a wide area with varing degrees of depravity. Some of it's normal run of the mill stuff, others is extremely violent.

    I actually remember watching a documentary on BBC about women who were starting in the industry and most of them had drug problems. One was an English girl who wasn't into drugs and who was a single mother and just thought it would be a handy way to make money. She ends up running off from one set crying after pretty much being abused.


  • #45
    Shryke
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭Shryke


    Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »
    the people I have the most respect for are the men
    if I make eye contact with myself in the reflection on my monitor I lose my erection, how they can manage it in a studio full of people is beyond me

    Cocaine.


  • #46
    jaffacakesyum
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭jaffacakesyum


    I'm not one of those feminists (hate the way that's become a dirty word :rolleyes: ) that claims all or even most porn actresses are abused, forced into the industry, hating their career, have low self-esteem etc. but I think this article will unfortunately give a lot of people (men, mostly) reason to say "ah sure look it's just a big conspiracy theory that women in the porn industry are objectified, degraded, abused have low self-esteem etc." It's not. It does happen.

    This ONE study had a sample size of 177. Not huge. Not miniscule that we should ignore the results though. The average length of time in the porn industry was 3.5 years. Again, not huge but not neglible to ignore the results of this story.

    I don't think any major conclusions can be made from this study.


  • #47
    Father Damo
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    Ush1 wrote: »

    I actually remember watching a documentary on BBC about women who were starting in the industry and most of them had drug problems. One was an English girl who wasn't into drugs and who was a single mother and just thought it would be a handy way to make money. She ends up running off from one set crying after pretty much being abused.


    That was Max Hardcore wasnt it?

    Bloke is a fcuking weirdo, god knows why any actress would want to star in his stuff.


  • #48
    CruelCoin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭CruelCoin


    Lyaiera wrote: »
    I know you have better things to be looking at during porn, but most of the men are fugly.

    What, hairy bears, or clean shaven ken dolls?

    I think they pick their male "actors" based on vocal performance. UGGGGHHHH-YEAH-UUUUGGGGHHHHHHH


  • #49
    Gummy Panda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    CruelCoin wrote: »

    What, hairy bears, or clean shaven ken dolls?

    I think they pick their male "actors" based on vocal performance. UGGGGHHHH-YEAH-UUUUGGGGHHHHHHH

    I see someone has been looking at Bears on Blondes


  • #50
    Ush1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,476 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Father Damo wrote: »
    That was Max Hardcore wasnt it?

    Bloke is a fcuking weirdo, god knows why any actress would want to star in his stuff.

    That's the one!

    I'm not saying I'm against porn or anything like that, just being realistic about the industry and the motivations of the people.


  • #51
    Lyaiera
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭Lyaiera


    CruelCoin wrote: »
    What, hairy bears, or clean shaven ken dolls?

    I think they pick their male "actors" based on vocal performance. UGGGGHHHH-YEAH-UUUUGGGGHHHHHHH

    I think the criteria for being a male porn star is they have a biggish dick (us) and the ability to shave their balls without cutting themselves.


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