Arsenal Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2011/2012

iainconlon12 · 05-08-2012 3:51pm

gnfnrhead wrote: »

No way van Persie remains captain if he stays. Sagna is probably the man for the job right now with Wilshere looking the most likely in a few years time.

I'd put my money with Vermaelen!

iainconlon12 · 05-08-2012 3:55pm

dvemail wrote: »

Can't find an actual link but Enzo Maresca of Malaga has apparently confirmed that they have had to sell Cazorla and Rondon.
Looking likely to be conformed tomorrow now hopefully.

Heard that alright.

Julio Baptista(of Malaga) just tweeted that he'd miss both Rondon and Cazorla so I'm pretty sure that it's a done deal. Announcement tomorrow maybe?

pandaboy · 05-08-2012 3:55pm

iainconlon12 wrote: »

I'd put my money with Vermaelen!

Agreed, I could see it when they purchased him originally. Great experience as captain with Ajax and he has the right attitude. Sagna would also make a great captain, I actually completely forgot about him.

Lead from the back and give it to someone that deserves it and not for fear of losing them!

Has anymore been said about Song? Especially with the Barce game last night. Or is it just wind from his agent(s).

05-08-2012 4:39pm

iainconlon12 wrote: »

Heard that alright.

Julio Baptista(of Malaga) just tweeted that he'd miss both Rondon and Cazorla so I'm pretty sure that it's a done deal. Announcement tomorrow maybe?

Jasus im sure they wont miss him

jonneymendoza · 05-08-2012 8:28pm

RVP stays!

tayto lover · 05-08-2012 8:31pm

jonneymendoza wrote: »

RVP stays!

Link ?

greendom · 05-08-2012 8:32pm

jonneymendoza wrote: »

RVP stays!

For his last year or with a new contract ?

emergingstar · 05-08-2012 9:31pm

Sahin deal done it seems

shano_88 · 05-08-2012 9:35pm

jonneymendoza wrote: »

RVP stays!

You can't just say that without some proof!

tayto lover · 05-08-2012 9:37pm

emergingstar wrote: »

Sahin deal done it seems

Or that.

emergingstar · 05-08-2012 9:44pm

tayto lover wrote: »

emergingstar wrote: »

Sahin deal done it seems

Or that.

Been reported in turkey all day but supposedly that's wasn't reliable
But been reported in Spain tonight

tayto lover · 05-08-2012 9:46pm

Can't wait two weeks for the start. Can we not start early ?

emergingstar · 05-08-2012 9:47pm

tayto lover wrote: »

Can't wait two weeks for the start. Can we not start early ?

I can't wait for cologne next week we should see all the new boys then

tayto lover · 05-08-2012 9:51pm

emergingstar wrote: »

I can't wait for cologne next week we should see all the new boys then

Is it on t.v.?
Great to see Arsenal supporter Mo Farah winning Gold too. Lovely man.

emergingstar · 05-08-2012 10:02pm

tayto lover wrote: »

emergingstar wrote: »

I can't wait for cologne next week we should see all the new boys then

Is it on t.v.?
Great to see Arsenal supporter Mo Farah winning Gold too. Lovely man.

ESPN I think everyone should get a run out

05-08-2012 10:03pm

Mancini said that he's out of the hunt for RvP.

I have to say I'll be a little sick if he lines up for ManYoo next season, which is what the papers seem to be running with

KCAccidental · 05-08-2012 10:05pm

Van Persie would be mad to go to United imo. Can't see him being able to play in the same team as Rooney.

batistuta9 · 05-08-2012 10:05pm

emergingstar wrote: »

I rather keep him than sell him for 15m it should be at least 20

yeah if sold you'd want as much as possible but in that scenario i said before what'd be the best option or what would the club/wenger think is the best option then.

does wenger want to keep him as he feel's that if he stays they could challenge or win something then hope he'll sign a new contract, probably

or the board - maybe even wenger as he said he'll do what right for the club, but i'd go with the above - view 15mil at that stage to much to turn down, no matter what it could possibly bring - a trophy, CL qualification again (participation was worth €28mil to them from last season) etc.

he's free to sign a pre contract in january, would he do this even if arsenal are top of the league & through in the CL? who knows, but you'd feel he definitely would if arsenal are 4-7th or anyway off the leaders at all

EDIT: just seeing the posts city being out of the race to sign him, and reading stories about fergie staying home from norway to make the deal

batistuta9 · 05-08-2012 10:12pm

emergingstar wrote: »

ESPN I think everyone should get a run out

you'd think what will start there will be close to the line up against sunderland,

i think wenger was trying to organise another game too behind closed doors but can't & it's going to be against themselves - reserves - now for the guys who didn't go to asia & the new players

pandaboy · 05-08-2012 10:27pm

greendom wrote: »

For his last year or with a new contract ?

I really can't see a new contract being signed unless he has Max Clifford as his agent. He'll either go (which I'm more inclined to think) or wait for the bosman.

dvemail · 05-08-2012 10:30pm

Fifa.com seem to confirm Arsenals signing of Cazorla. See bottom of the article.

http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/clubfootball/news/newsid=1675878.html

greendom · 05-08-2012 10:31pm

pandaboy wrote: »

I really can't see a new contract being signed unless he has Max Clifford as his agent. He'll either go (which I'm more inclined to think) or wait for the bosman.

Me either I was hoping Jonnymendoza would flesh out his post a little.

Fuzzy_Dunlop · 05-08-2012 10:38pm

dvemail wrote: »

Fifa.com seem to confirm Arsenals signing of Cazorla. See bottom of the article.

http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/clubfootball/news/newsid=1675878.html

That's not an official FIFA article, it's coming from AFP news agency. Official Arsenal site is the only one you can trust 100%. Having said that it's looking more and more likely. Hopefully it will be announced tomorrow!

greendom · 05-08-2012 10:42pm

Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote: »

That's not an official FIFA article, it's coming from AFP news agency. Official Arsenal site is the only one you can trust 100%. Having said that it's looking more and more likely. Hopefully it will be announced tomorrow!

Agence France Press is pretty reliable I would have thought.

Fuzzy_Dunlop · 05-08-2012 10:50pm

greendom wrote: »

Agence France Press is pretty reliable I would have thought.

True but it's just not that it's FIFA officially confirming that the player has been registered as an Arsenal player, as may be construed from the article being on their website. I'm very confident now as all the signs are pointing towards it but we don't want another Mata.

batistuta9 · 05-08-2012 11:00pm

greendom wrote: »

Me either I was hoping Jonnymendoza would flesh out his post a little.

probably getting it from this http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenal-skipper-robin-van-persie-1218984 there's a load of stories with it, google arsenal & filter to news it's the third block of stories

By Steve Stammers 40 Comments 4 Aug 2012 23:01
RvP U-turn! Robin van Persie now wants to STAY at Arsenal as Gunners eye £7m move for Ajax star

Van Persie’s complaints about Arsenal failing to buy at the top end of the transfer market have been silenced as Giroud, Podolski and Cazorla have been brought in

Robin van Persie is set to make a dramatic U-turn and stay at the Emirates.

Arsenal’s star striker made it clear at the start of the summer that he wanted to move on because of the club’s lack of ambition.

Arsene Wenger ordered van Persie to stay at home and miss Arsenal’s tour of the Far East.

But, significantly, the Dutchman, who is 29 on Monday, will be part of the Arsenal party that heads to Germany on his birthday.

Club insiders believe van Persie, who has a year remaining on his contract, now wants to stay.

The next challenge will be for the club to table a contract that gets him to commit to the club for the long term.

The summer signings of Lukas Podolski and Olivier Giroud, as well as the imminent arrival of Spain international Santiago Cazorla, in a £9million deal from Malaga, have impressed the captain.

We asked La Liga expert David Cartlidge what Arsenal fans can expect from Cazorla. Click here to read his scouting report on the Spain man.

There is also the prospect of Holland team-mate Gregory van der Wiel arriving for £7million.

Van der Wiel also has one year left on his contract at Ajax and the Dutch champions are anxious to cash in rather than lose him on a free next summer.

Van der Wiel hopes to join the Gunners, but Newcastle have tabled a £10m double bid for the Dutch right-back and Ajax midfielder Vernun Anita.

Ajax hope to hang on to Anita but the Toon interest will force Arsenal into action. Van Persie’s complaints about Arsenal failing to buy at the top end of the transfer market have been silenced.

Wenger is insistent that his star marksman will not leave for less than £30m – and bids from the three clubs keen to sign the Footballer of the Year have fallen well short of that figure.

Manchester City, Manchester United and Juventus have all lodged offers of around £15m.

Van Persie is believed to prefer a move to Old Trafford but accepts if the clubs can’t settle on a fee he would rather concentrate on rebuilding his Arsenal career.

So Van Persie now looks certain to start the season as an Arsenal player – and if the season goes as he hopes, he will re-assess his long-term position by January.

tayto lover · 05-08-2012 11:06pm

batistuta9 wrote: »

probably getting it from this http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenal-skipper-robin-van-persie-1218984 there's a load of stories with it, google arsenal & filter to news it's the third block of stories

That's your best post in weeks Batty

Hope we keep signing but we need to ship out some lads soon (not Song).

pandaboy · 05-08-2012 11:12pm

How many twists and turns have the Mirror gone through with the RVP situation? Tis as bad as fecking Twitter!

Cazorla, as rumoured by ArseBlog, is supposed to be made official tomorrow. I really don't know what to think of the possible Sahin deal though. With Utd interested, or so it seems, he'd probably most definitely would make the move there, especially if it's a permanent deal. Why go on loan and then return to Real to force your way back in to the team again, if the opportunity is still there that is.

Any more info on Van der Weil? He would be a pretty decent acquisition and could possibly adapt to a defensive midfield position.

KCAccidental · 06-08-2012 12:03am

pandaboy wrote: »

I really don't know what to think of the possible Sahin deal though. With Utd interested, or so it seems, he'd probably most definitely would make the move there, especially if it's a permanent deal. Why go on loan and then return to Real to force your way back in to the team again, if the opportunity is still there that is.

I think wages will play a part in it. United probably wont offer him what he's on at Madrid (since they are being frugal and trying cut costs) a loan to us where we pay a percentage and Madrid pay a percentage would be lucrative for him and get him some good playing time.

keano_afc · 06-08-2012 12:06am

OK its Monday. Has Cazorla been announced yet?

iainconlon12 · 06-08-2012 12:31am

The Cazorla thing has been taken off the Fifa website now. Lolz. :pac:
Good god.

pandaboy · 06-08-2012 1:18am

KCAccidental wrote: »

I think wages will play a part in it. United probably wont offer him what he's on at Madrid (since they are being frugal and trying cut costs) a loan to us where we pay a percentage and Madrid pay a percentage would be lucrative for him and get him some good playing time.

Yeah, to be fair to Utd, they are frugal when it comes to younger talent & wages. Welbeck, afaik was on 15K a week for most of last season. I thought that Madrid weren't too keen on paying a percentage of his wages? Also, where will he play? Will he be pushed into a central position?

I wonder has Wenger hung on to any stem cells belonging to Gilberto? He would be a perfect addition to the squad right now. Clone him asap and we'll have the cover for song.

Mickeroo · 06-08-2012 12:39pm

Where's the Cazorla announcement dammit!?!?

Noo · 06-08-2012 12:49pm

I've been flicking between this and arsenal.com all day for this damn announcement, gimme something!

emergingstar · 06-08-2012 1:31pm

Jesus lads relax cazorla is done and dusted

Redzer7 · 06-08-2012 1:37pm

emergingstar wrote: »

Jesus lads relax cazorla is done and dusted

If I remember correctly, you said the same thing about M'vila too.

emergingstar · 06-08-2012 1:40pm

Redzer7 wrote: »

emergingstar wrote: »

Jesus lads relax cazorla is done and dusted

If I remember correctly, you said the same thing about M'vila too.

This one is done

pandaboy · 06-08-2012 1:41pm

emergingstar wrote: »

Jesus lads relax cazorla is done and dusted

Where's your PROOF?!! I need to know........lol (jk)

I don't think I've seen as much excitement for a transfer season in while, last year's was exciting until the players we were near signing pretty much signed for another team.

I'm more primed for when we get the full squad out against Cologne. Sunday is just too far away for that.

This is merely a hypothetical question but what would ye think if we signed Davide Santon from Newcastle? He had a fairly strong season with them and was extremely solid underage for Inter & Italy. For his age I think he could be ranked as one of the best full backs in the EPL. Go to 0.26 for actual football and I recommend muting the ****e music as well.

Mickeroo · 06-08-2012 1:45pm

I'm still expecting City, United, Chelsea or Spurs to swoop in and nab him, I'm convinced the only reason it hasn't happened yet is they haven't noticed we're trying to buy him :P

Reekwind · 06-08-2012 1:58pm

pandaboy wrote: »

This is merely a hypothetical question but what would ye think if we signed Davide Santon from Newcastle? He had a fairly strong season with them and was extremely solid underage for Inter & Italy. For his age I think he could be ranked as one of the best full backs in the EPL. Go to 0.26 for actual football and I recommend muting the ****e music as well.

I've always rated Santon as a real prospect. His career went off the rails a bit towards the end at Inter (injury, lack of form and probably too young to handle the hero to zero) but he's got his head together at Newcastle and seems to be on the way up again

In terms of ability there's no question that he'd add to the team. Whether or not someone with a fragile mentality would thrive on the Arsenal rollercoaster though...

emergingstar · 06-08-2012 2:23pm

Gnarby going to Germany

pandaboy · 06-08-2012 2:41pm

emergingstar wrote: »

Gnarby going to Germany

On loan or transfer? He's excelled so much in the last year it'd be an utter waste to let him go so soon. (On a transfer)

Especially after this

Gnabry signs pro contract.

dvemail · 06-08-2012 2:54pm

pandaboy wrote: »

On loan or transfer? He's excelled so much in the last year it'd be an utter waste to let him go so soon. (On a transfer)

Especially after this

Gnabry signs pro contract.

No, he's on the Arsenal first team to play Cologne.

emergingstar · 06-08-2012 3:02pm

pandaboy wrote: »

emergingstar wrote: »

Gnarby going to Germany

On loan or transfer? He's excelled so much in the last year it'd be an utter waste to let him go so soon. (On a transfer)

Especially after this

Gnabry signs pro contract.

Sorry he is going for the week training camp
He could have a breakthrough season next year like wilshere did he is that good

gnfnrhead · 06-08-2012 3:08pm

batistuta9 wrote: »

EDIT: just seeing the posts city being out of the race to sign him, and reading stories about fergie staying home from norway to make the deal

Fergie's stayed home to sort out the Brazilian kid's transfer to them. Hopefully the next Denilson :pac:

pandaboy · 06-08-2012 3:31pm

dvemail wrote: »

No, he's on the Arsenal first team to play Cologne.

emergingstar wrote: »

Sorry he is going for the week training camp
He could have a breakthrough season next year like wilshere did he is that good

Jaysus lads ye could see my insecurities there! Losing too many good players. Haha, can't believe I didn't cop it was Cologne. Fair fecks to him. He's gotten a lot bigger as since last year.

pandaboy · 06-08-2012 3:31pm

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Fergie's stayed home to sort out the Brazilian kid's transfer to them. Hopefully the next Denilson :pac:

Rumour has it, Moura's going to PSG in December.

UnknownSpecies · 06-08-2012 3:49pm

Enjoyed this video, nice to see the banter between the lads.

Video

Fuzzy_Dunlop · 06-08-2012 8:35pm

So very close http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19086404

Apparently he's in Germany with the team and all:pac:

[edit] Below 15m too? Unreal bit of business

emergingstar · 06-08-2012 8:38pm

Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote: »

So very close http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19086404

Apparently he's in Germany with the team and all:pac:

RVP there too looks like he might start the season with us