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Persona 4 The Ultimax Ultra Suplex Hold (no really)

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    #32
    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users Posts: 18,697 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    Don't Aegis & Labrys have "dark Persona" versions, too?

    Anyway, NO FEET :cool:

    RhFLZ.jpg


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    #33
    Yreval
    Registered Users Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭Yreval


    Here's the E3 trailer:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esQXF9UGFw0


    I never noticed this in the arcade version because (1) it's in Japanese and (2) it's usually obscured by the player info anyway but each character has a silly title that's displayed alongside their name in-game. You're not just fighting Yu Narukami, oh no, you're fighting THE SISTER-COMPLEX KINGPIN OF STEEL YU NARUKAMI.


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    #34
    Placebo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,070 ✭✭✭Placebo


    States get it in August,
    anyword on EU ?


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    #35
    Naphiel
    Registered Users Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭Naphiel


    Placebo wrote: »
    States get it in August,
    anyword on EU ?

    We're getting it but the release date isn't set yet. Zen United actually got the latest edition of BB out on time so hopefully it won't be too long after America.


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    #36
    Fergus_
    Registered Users Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Fergus_


    Ye sure, less go Chie.


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    #37
    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users Posts: 18,697 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    Fergus_ wrote: »
    Ye sure, less go Chie.
    Chie is MAI waifu, hands off.


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    #38
    Yreval
    Registered Users Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭Yreval


    Placebo wrote: »
    States get it in August,
    anyword on EU ?

    http://neoempire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13124

    The game was shown at two events in London and Newport today so a release can't be too far off.


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    #39
    Sairus
    Registered Users Posts: 3,333 ✭✭✭Sairus


    Yreval wrote: »
    The game was shown at two events in London and Newport today so a release can't be too far off.

    Had a momentary panic that there was somehow a P4U event in the Tempest venue.


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    #40
    FirLocke
    Registered Users Posts: 43 ✭FirLocke


    Sooooooo hyped for this game. Absolutely loved P4(I want to get a Vita to play Golden tbh) and I've enjoyed what I've played of BlazBlue, so I'm definitely getting this!

    Also, I found this a while ago:

    600x-1

    So, it's definitely coming to Europe, via Zen United. There's no release date yet though. I hope it's in August like in America, so that at least we get it during the summer.


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    #41
    Yreval
    Registered Users Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭Yreval


    According to Amazon, Play and Zavvi the release date is August 31st.


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    #42
    johnny_ultimate
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,094 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Apparently the 360 and PS3 American versions are region-locked: http://www.siliconera.com/2012/07/02/persona-4-arenas-story-mode-is-roughly-half-the-size-of-persona-4/

    Think that's the first time that's happened with a PS3 game? But at least we have the European version on the way. 30-40 hours story mode = :eek:


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    #43
    FirLocke
    Registered Users Posts: 43 ✭FirLocke


    Region locking is true and Atlus haven't left us in the dark about it.
    Friends of ATLUS,

    The last week brought with it news that Persona°4 Arena™ would effectively become the first PlayStation°3 system game to be region-locked. We can today confirm that this is true; the game will be region-locked in all its respective territories of release.

    As we've ascertained from your impassioned responses online, this is obviously a tremendous frustration for many fans. We understand the various perspectives on the matter. Those who fear this is a slippery slope, the beginning of a dangerous and unnecessary precedent. Those who import foreign hardware for a multitude of reasons and expect to be unlimited in their software selection. Those who aren't necessarily affected by this issue, but who are principally opposed to it. We are not blind to these concerns and we pledge to grow ever more informed as to exactly what our fans want. It should be added that we were completely unprepared for the force with which the community communicated their disapproval.

    There are, however, a few points to clarify. This is NOT the beginning of a new ATLUS policy, nor do we view it as a precedent or a slippery slope. If anything, your determination and dedication to what you believe in has certainly stood in the face of that. This is an isolated case, a situation precipitated by a number of factors, some of which are simply out of our North American hands. Moreover, and perhaps there is no way to convince our fans of this considering the magnitude of the betrayal many are feeling, but we are not doing this out of malice or a desire to control. Allow us to explain.

    Persona 4 Arena achieves a number of triumphs for our North American publishing house. For years, our fans have asked us to include dual language audio in our games. Finally, with P4 Arena, we were able to deliver on that desire and include the exact same content as the Japanese release for our North American fans. Moreover, our North American community is often forced to wait months for a localized release (a plight our friends across the Atlantic can relate to). Again, with P4 Arena, we're able to release within two weeks of Japan. We pushed hard for these things. We know our fans want them--well really, EXPECT them--and we did our best to get as much for our release as possible.

    The unforeseen consequence in all of this was that we had a version of our biggest game of the year releasing within a couple weeks in two territories, both identical in content, but at radically different price points. Importing, as great as it is for gamers who otherwise can't get access to a title, can also cannibalize the performance of a title in one territory to the benefit of another. While we're all one big ATLUS family, the reality is that the dramatic difference between the Yen and the Dollar makes for a dramatic difference in price. So the decision was made, perhaps at the expense of some of our fans, clearly at the frustration of many, to region-lock Persona 4 Arena.

    For many of you, there is no explanation that resonates, no justification that atones for this fact. We can only endeavor to earn back your confidence and, to learn from your arguments. We absolutely recognize the fear that this is the beginning of a trend. We in no way view it as such. Please also keep in mind that the game's excellent online multiplayer is global, a fact that is in no way affected by the region-lock. Players can compete against fighters from all territories.

    A tremendous team of talented developers and artists poured their blood, sweat, and tears into Persona 4 Arena, and every reaction we've ever received to the game has shown that those efforts are readily apparent. The decision to region-lock P4 Arena was a business one, one that has very clearly affected how many perceive the project, but we ask you to please not overlook the exceptional efforts of the people behind the game and to work with us through constructive dialogue.

    Thank you.

    Fantastic to see them reply so quickly.

    Personally, since it is coming to Europe the region locking didn't bother me very much. I tend to wait for European releases anyway to show support and to show that Europe has a demand for these kind of things. Many, many people were pissed off at the news of this though. I've even read some comments like, "Atlus you used to cater to your fans so much and now you do this? wtf", or something along those lines. So it's really great to see Atlus reply as they did.


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    #44
    Scavenger XIII
    Registered Users Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭Scavenger XIII


    I don't see what there is to complain about, they're getting the localised version within a fortnight of Japan.

    I had to wait an entire year for BBCT on Xbox so they can all STFU.


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    #45
    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users Posts: 18,697 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    It is a slippery slope though.
    This happens already happened with anime.

    Region-locking is also done to prevent Japanese fans from importing at a cheaper price point.
    Kinda sad really.


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    #46
    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Least they're opening communication and not letting resentment build unlike a certain other fighting game company I could mention.

    It's a very legit argument to me tbh. If they fought for the quick release, they'll need it to sell to convince their HO that they need to do this for the American market. I've seen the way these things work from the other side. You don't make a business change without a return being expected...


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    #47
    Sieghardt
    Registered Users Posts: 591 ✭✭✭Sieghardt


    yeah I wont be buying this game now because of the region lock, as a consumer I dont care how much business sense it makes for them, half or more of my friends will be long done with this game in 6 months or a year when zen finally releases it in europe


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    #48
    Orim
    Registered Users Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Orim


    Sieghardt wrote: »
    yeah I wont be buying this game now because of the region lock, as a consumer I dont care how much business sense it makes for them, half or more of my friends will be long done with this game in 6 months or a year when zen finally releases it in europe

    But they've said the NA and Europe releases will be within two weeks of the Japan release. IN fact this is part of the reason for the region lock.


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    #49
    D4RK ONION
    Moderators Posts: 8,678 ✭✭✭D4RK ONION


    Shut up Orim, people are trying to be offended!! JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ

    :pac:


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    #50
    Sairus
    Registered Users Posts: 3,333 ✭✭✭Sairus


    Orim wrote: »
    But they've said the NA and Europe releases will be within two weeks of the Japan release. IN fact this is part of the reason for the region lock.
    Actually, I don't think Zen have given a launch window for the EU release. All I've heard them say so far is that they're aiming to have as short a delay between the US/JP release and the EU release as possible and that they thank everyone for their patience.

    That definitely sounds like a bit longer than the existing 2 week delay.


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    #51
    Orim
    Registered Users Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Orim


    Ah that's right it's Zen in Europe. I was just going off the PR thing that Atlus released.


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    #52
    Sieghardt
    Registered Users Posts: 591 ✭✭✭Sieghardt


    Orim wrote: »
    But they've said the NA and Europe releases will be within two weeks of the Japan release. IN fact this is part of the reason for the region lock.

    no, the two week delay is between US and japan, zen say they're "aiming for" august 31st but the last time they "aimed for" a date like that it was 10 months late


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    #53
    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Sieghardt wrote: »
    no, the two week delay is between US and japan, zen say they're "aiming for" august 31st but the last time they "aimed for" a date like that it was 10 months late

    Wasn't the last BB released rather promptly, actually?


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    #54
    FirLocke
    Registered Users Posts: 43 ✭FirLocke


    Doctor DooM wrote: »
    Wasn't the last BB released rather promptly, actually?

    Yeah, I'm fairly sure Extend came out in Europe soon after everywhere else. I must get that game someday too, it's only like 12 pounds on Amazon.


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    #55
    Sieghardt
    Registered Users Posts: 591 ✭✭✭Sieghardt


    Doctor DooM wrote: »
    Wasn't the last BB released rather promptly, actually?

    yeah but they announced that immediately, not that they were "aiming for" a date a few months away, as they are here, whenever they say that you're looking at 6 months to a year, as per every single other release from zen, but hey, if it comes out 2 weeks later I retract most of my complaints, I dont think that'll be happening though


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    #56
    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Yeah but you said very specifically the "last time" they were 10 months late. Which isn't true, their recent track record is good, so I don't see the point in righteous indignation until the point they push it back.


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    #57
    J0hnick
    Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭J0hnick


    Scavenger XIII wrote: »

    I had to wait an entire year for BBCT on Xbox so they can all STFU.

    This, except with the PS3 version.


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    #58
    Dreddybajs
    Registered Users Posts: 4,229 ✭✭✭Dreddybajs


    Doctor DooM wrote: »
    Yeah but you said very specifically the "last time" they were 10 months late. Which isn't true, their recent track record is good, so I don't see the point in righteous indignation until the point they push it back.

    He said very specifically 'the last time they "aimed for"... '. I have no idea how accurate any of this is but he was pretty specific in what he claimed and I think you're misrepresenting it.


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    #59
    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Dreddybajs wrote: »
    He said very specifically 'the last time they "aimed for"... '. I have no idea how accurate any of this is but he was pretty specific in what he claimed and I think you're misrepresenting it.

    No, last time they "aimed for" it, it came out when they said it would, which was literally within weeks of the Jap/ Americas release. I'm not misrepresenting anything?

    I was one of the people in THAT thread going "Good luck getting it before next year lolz". I'm just being fair.


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    #60
    Dreddybajs
    Registered Users Posts: 4,229 ✭✭✭Dreddybajs


    Did they use the term "aimed for" on that occasion though? I thought the point was that they didn't and announced a specific date or whatever. Seems like that's what Sieghardt is saying anyway.


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    #61
    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Dreddybajs wrote: »
    Did they use the term "aimed for" on that occasion though? I thought the point was that they didn't and announced a specific date or whatever. Seems like that's what Sieghardt is saying anyway.

    In what world is "we're going to release it on such a date, no really this time" not aiming for a date?

    This is a mental level of semantics: My point is that Zen's last FG release they stuck to their promises so there's no point in throwing wobblies until they actually let people down.


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