McDonalds employee attacks two customers who jump counter, charged with felony

barone · 16-10-2011 7:52am #1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tFvPKHABgk

cityhunter · 16-10-2011 8:28am

this is really terrible...
how this happens? wtf?

barone · 16-10-2011 8:44am

think its a golf club he uses,looks like one.. some hidin given out

Snakeblood · 16-10-2011 9:04am

Apparently they gave him a fifty to pay for their food, he wouldn't accept it, then they hit him and jumped the counter. Then he went to the back, they tried following him, and he came back out with a metal rod and started beating the **** out of them, giving lacerations, fractures and a broken arm to them.

The server was previously in prison for manslaughter for a ten stretch.

The women (and it was hard to tell) but the women who attacked him are being charged with menacing and trespass, and he's probably going back to chokey. He's already been fired.

I dunno, I normally don't have much sympathy for this sort of thing, but those women were clearly interested in continuing a confrontation, and if they had left, or not hit him the situation wouldn't have escalated. I hope he gets off and they don't think they can be dicks to customer service staff who are doing their jobs.

MagicSean · 16-10-2011 9:11am

It was self defence til he started beating them on the ground. But it's always nice to see scumbags pick on the wrong person and get a wake up.

Tipsy McSwagger · 16-10-2011 9:14am

Good on him he should have got a promotion.

Gummy Panda · 16-10-2011 9:22am

That blonde woman had a really annoying voice.

Oranage2 · 16-10-2011 9:28am

Everybody knows McDonalds is bad for your health.

Sky King · 16-10-2011 9:50am

MagicSean wrote: »

It was self defence til he started beating them on the ground.

I disagree - I think if a person is attacked physically, they have a right to render their attacker incapable of further attacks. In this case by...eh.. mauling them with a metal bar.

But it's always nice to see scumbags pick on the wrong person and get a wake up.

Yeah totally!

nice_very · 16-10-2011 10:14am

looks like a metal rod used in the oil filtering process he is hitting them with, that would hurt a lot and do damage, should have just blasted them with piss big mac sauce

in fairness, he went overboard but they deserved it for starting sh1t

Minstrel27 · 16-10-2011 10:23am

Scumbag jumps the counter looking for a fight?

If yes, then **** him.

bop1977 · 16-10-2011 10:26am

I'm loving it....

Oranage2 · 16-10-2011 10:59am

Would you like a beaten with that?

DjFlin · 16-10-2011 11:05am

I'd like to have seen the blonde "STOP!" chick getting beaten. Her voice is like nails on a chalkboard.

Tipsy McSwagger · 16-10-2011 11:06am

A Happy Slappy Meal

CMpunked · 16-10-2011 11:29am

Pretty big vid making the rounds at the moment.
Two women arguing with a mcdonalds cashier in new york slaps the cashier and jumps the counter. The employee runs and grabs some sort of pole baton thing and retaliates.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tFvPKHABgk

Rayon McIntosh, the cashier, was charged with felony assault charges and criminal possession of a weapon. The two women were charged with trespass and disorderly conduct. One of the women suffered a fractured skull and a broken arm in the incident.

The question being brought up about the video is if the cashier was justified in her actions and in turn did she deserve such a charge.

LeixlipRed · 16-10-2011 11:34am

Justified in defending herself. The extra wallops when they're on the ground, nah.

m.j.w · 16-10-2011 11:35am

every right to hit them at the start in defence but went overboard in the end

drunkmonkey · 16-10-2011 11:40am

Didn't use a big enough a pole, the extra hits were to make sure she staid down, 100% justifiable. I would have just hopped her head off the counter and knocked her out then stuck her head in the deep fat fryer, each to their own I suppose.

Tomtata · 16-10-2011 11:42am

Yes justified - self defence - two people jumped the counter to attack her - she retaliate.

If it wasnt for the actions on the two people who jumped the counter nothing would have happened.

uberwolf · 16-10-2011 11:47am

it seems to me that the extra hits on the ground were in response to someone who wouldn't stay down. The blows look like they are landing not far below counter level, rather than ground level. In that case they are fully justified.

mcmoustache · 16-10-2011 11:54am

Well justified in my opinion. If you jump a counter to attack the staff, you've already established violent intent and the staff should be able to make sure that they remain unharmed - even if that means making sure that the attackers stay down.

Ficheall · 16-10-2011 11:54am

The stuff people record video footage of always surprises me...

RichieC · 16-10-2011 12:02pm

Black person gets charged with a felony for defending themselves... welcome to america.

paddyandy · 16-10-2011 12:06pm

Only in America that Oasis for Wickedness.....they call Freedom.

Cianos · 16-10-2011 12:11pm

He went totally overboard, even picking up that metal bar. A couple of girls being a bit loud, and you with all your coworkers there? Yeah they jumped the counter but no need to start cracking jaws.

MyKeyG · 16-10-2011 12:15pm

uberwolf wrote: »

it seems to me that the extra hits on the ground were in response to someone who wouldn't stay down. The blows look like they are landing not far below counter level, rather than ground level. In that case they are fully justified.

Yes but the individual in question may have been making an attempt to retreat. You have no right to 'make someone stay down'. There's no such thing in law as 'self-offence'.

ch750536 · 16-10-2011 12:20pm

MyKeyG wrote: »

Yes but the individual in question may have been making an attempt to retreat. You have no right to 'make someone stay down'. There's no such thing in law as 'self-offence'.

Only a numpty would want to offend themselves. Or maybe I offended myself last night...

Fishooks12 · 16-10-2011 12:21pm

maybe the few extras belts were a bit extreme but the two people jumping over the counter were obviously scum and deserved a good beat down!

MyKeyG · 16-10-2011 12:21pm

mcmoustache wrote: »

Well justified in my opinion. If you jump a counter to attack the staff, you've already established violent intent and the staff should be able to make sure that they remain unharmed - even if that means making sure that the attackers stay down.

That's what these guys said. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW1ZDIXiuS4

orourkeda · 16-10-2011 12:25pm

Brought a smile to my face. A lot of people have felt like doing that at work.

Yakult · 16-10-2011 12:26pm

Cianos wrote: »

He went totally overboard, even picking up that metal bar. A couple of girls being a bit loud, and you with all your coworkers there? Yeah they jumped the counter but no need to start cracking jaws.

Yeah, because these loud girls were only jumping to the counter to give him a hug :rolleyes:

They we're obviously going to attack him, he used self defense (or a bar) to sort those two fools out. Deserved.

MyKeyG · 16-10-2011 12:28pm

ch750536 wrote: »

Only a numpty would want to offend themselves. Or maybe I offended myself last night...

Yeah that came out wrong didn't it?:D My point is self defence is not without limitation. It turned into assault from what I can see. Where's Jack McCoy when ya need him?

RichieC · 16-10-2011 12:31pm

I'd of ****ed scalding oil over the hoers.

Fishooks12 · 16-10-2011 12:35pm

He did miss a perfect opportunity for a killer one liner

After the final blow he should have said

"you want fries with that?"

I'll get my coat....

Big Nasty · 16-10-2011 12:45pm

Catch me on a bad day and I would love to hammer a couple of scroates like that.

Lapin · 16-10-2011 12:49pm

You sure its not Supermac's ?

hypermuse · 16-10-2011 12:56pm

Lapin wrote: »

You sure its not Supermac's ?

omg if your right it totally changes the story, events and outcome!

He did go to far but I honestly dont think anyone could blame him giving out what was more than deserved!

If you are gonna go into a workplace and harass an employee, then proceed to assault him and look for further confrontation after he walks away (granted he through a few) then you deserve to have your ass handed to you!

krudler · 16-10-2011 1:10pm

he was probably enraged more by that annoying one screeching "STOPPP ITTTTTTTTT!"

hard one to call without seeing whats going on the other side of the counter, the two of them could have been kicking him or trying to attack him further from the ground. definitely justified in defending himself but it did look to go a bit far if they were laying out defenceless and he was just pounding away on them.

greendom · 16-10-2011 1:19pm

Employee went OTT went way beyond self defence and deserves punishment - as do the counter jumpers of course.

Dotsie~tmp · 16-10-2011 1:19pm

Self defence. I wouldnt convict.

biko · 16-10-2011 1:31pm

Fast food fights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAfsR58ocXY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH3JSs0fnGQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2qH1SGoXkY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xwBKKjednk

cocalolaman · 16-10-2011 1:55pm

"Oh my gaaaawwwd! Staawwwpp! Someone call the caawwwps!"

MyKeyG · 16-10-2011 3:27pm

Lapin wrote: »

You sure its not Supermac's ?

Nah if it was Supermacs in all probability it would be the staff member abusing the customer.

Amalgam · 16-10-2011 3:41pm

Yakult wrote: »

Yeah, because these loud girls were only jumping to the counter to give him a hug :rolleyes:

They we're obviously going to attack him, he used self defense (or a bar) to sort those two fools out. Deserved.

There's that delicious moment when the two counter jumpers think they're onto a good slap and whinge, just before 'whippy' makes an appearance. There's that tenth of a second, 'oh.. sh_t' pause.

I have some sympathy for the cashier..

Amazing how just under the surface various tensions are.. in certain sectors in the US, Asians and African Americans don't have much time for each other.

MyKeyG · 16-10-2011 5:02pm

Yakult wrote: »

Yeah, because these loud girls were only jumping to the counter to give him a hug :rolleyes:

They we're obviously going to attack him, he used self defense (or a bar) to sort those two fools out. Deserved.

But they didn't. Any lawyer worth his salt would have argued that threatening behaviour doesn't constitute an act of violence and he'd be right. His defence wouldn't have been able to prove they were going to do anything.

Personally I think he should have gone in for a penny in for a pound and thrown in a couple of kicks but from a legal point of view he didn't have a leg to stand on. Even a Cop isn't allowed put a hand on you until you've committed a physical act of aggression.

CMpunked · 16-10-2011 5:07pm

MyKeyG wrote: »

But they didn't. Any lawyer worth his salt would have argued that threatening behaviour doesn't constitute an act of violence and he'd be right. His defence wouldn't have been able to prove they were going to do anything.

Look at 25 seconds on the video, one of them quite obviously hits him first.

Opinicus · 16-10-2011 5:10pm

He gets slapped in the face at 25 seconds and then walks away. Wtf do you think they jumped the counter for? To continue their assault on someone.

All is fair in love and war.

ScouseMouse · 16-10-2011 5:17pm

Tomtata wrote: »

Yes justified - self defence - two people jumped the counter to attack her - she retaliate.

If it wasnt for the actions on the two people who jumped the counter nothing would have happened.

Don't you mean the girls jumped the counter to attack the cashier and the cashier DEFENDED themselves

thisiswar · 16-10-2011 5:26pm

Anyone who think the McDonalds employee was in the wrong is a f*cking Idiot.

MyKeyG · 16-10-2011 5:28pm

CMpunked wrote: »

Look at 25 seconds on the video, one of them quite obviously hits him first.

Ah right. I switched the view to youtube because I couldn't see it clearly. She does give him a right good slap in the gob. Still not sure if the reaction fits within the definition of self defence.

It doesn't help that the employee was released from a ten year stretch 7 months prior for shooting a 17 year old dead.

He's obviously a violent man. Even at one stage one of his colleagues seem to flinch as if he made to attack him. I suppose you have to give him credit for backing off in the first place.

McDonalds employee attacks two customers who jump counter, charged with felony

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