Dash cam saves your ass (no Roundabout stuff please :)

Joe10000 · 26-01-2012 12:23am

BX 19 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuKIMVvh6Oc

Just thought I'd share what I use. Daily roads voyager with my SE xperia. Records in 720.

Nice of you to stop !! Was that last week ? Think I passed it.

ligertigon · 26-01-2012 12:29am

Jimmy Bottlehead wrote: »

Thought I'd pop this up.

Not one, but two drivers ignored the markings approaching the roundabout leaving Blanchardstown Shopping Centre (1st exit = outside lane, 2nd & 3rd exits = inside lane) and plough right through, almost into me.

Some might argue that at least they're using the correct rule for most roundabouts, but I expect drivers to be more awake and notice what way the roundabout works.

Enjoy AC/DC's "It's a Long Way to the Top if you wanna Rock & Roll" in the background, and try to ignore me mumbling "prick" and "idiot" at the drivers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1Yg2RZ9g00

I know he/she could have kept more left.
But there are no lane markings on the roundabout?????? Its almost like bad design or misfeasance.??

Jimmy Bottlehead · 26-01-2012 12:37am

ligertigon wrote: »

Jimmy Bottlehead wrote: »

Thought I'd pop this up.

Not one, but two drivers ignored the markings approaching the roundabout leaving Blanchardstown Shopping Centre (1st exit = outside lane, 2nd & 3rd exits = inside lane) and plough right through, almost into me.

Some might argue that at least they're using the correct rule for most roundabouts, but I expect drivers to be more awake and notice what way the roundabout works.

Enjoy AC/DC's "It's a Long Way to the Top if you wanna Rock & Roll" in the background, and try to ignore me mumbling "prick" and "idiot" at the drivers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1Yg2RZ9g00

I know he/she could have kept more left.
But there are no lane markings on the roundabout?????? Its almost like bad design or misfeasance.??

It's a ****e design for a roundabout, and I don't know why it can't go by the same rules as a normal one.

Still no excuse though.

Nissan doctor · 26-01-2012 12:49am

eringobragh wrote: »

That works as well It was actually how I had my first dashcam wired up (seperate camera/dvr/mic) back in 2008..never had a problem with it and more importantly its neat and out of sight.

Whats the scanner for? Haven't seen one of them in yonks!

Yup, and there is still a spare socket for charging my phone in the glovebox too.

The scanner is for my other interest in much larger machines:)

@bx19 and Jimmybottlehead, how have you got your camera's mounted? Seems to be a lot of vibration? That's something I expected with mine but the mount is rock solid.

eringobragh · 26-01-2012 1:02am

Nissan doctor wrote: »

Yup, and there is still a spare socket for charging my phone in the glovebox too.

The scanner is for my other interest in much larger machines:)

Plane spotter? :cool:

PrettyBoy · 26-01-2012 1:10am

That first video makes my blood boil, the ****ing cheek of the tramp getting out of the X5, waving her arms around. If it happened to me I don't think I'd have pointed out to the camera to pair of *****, play dumb, call the guards and wait for them to arrive before bringing it to their attention.

Going to invest in one of these myself after seeing all the videos in this thread, recall an incident like this happening to a member here too but not sure what the outcome was.

_AVALANCHE_ · 26-01-2012 1:20am

PrettyBoy wrote: »

That first video makes my blood boil, the ****ing cheek of the tramp getting out of the X5, waving her arms around. If it happened to me I don't think I'd have pointed out to the camera to pair of *****, play dumb, call the guards and wait for them to arrive before bringing it to their attention.

Going to invest in one of these myself after seeing all the videos in this thread, recall an incident like this happening to a member here too but not sure what the outcome was.

He was never to be seen again........

Nissan doctor · 26-01-2012 1:29am

Yet another roundabout issue, wrong lane, no indication....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjC8gb8KFLQ&list=UUf2FXl96khtO_Jl43BrAzuA&index=1&feature=plcp

Voodoomelon · 26-01-2012 1:33am

I've watched that 3 times and am baffled by what happened.

Looks to me that both of you were in the wrong lane (the car infront), but I cant make out the road layout well.

Nissan doctor · 26-01-2012 1:39am

Voodoomelon wrote: »

I've watched that 3 times and am baffled by what happened.

Looks to me that both of you were in the wrong lane (the car infront), but I cant make out the road layout well.

The lane I and the superb ahead are in is signposted/arrowed for M50 north and/or city center/ballymun.

The lane the 307 is in is for M50 north only.

Voodoomelon · 26-01-2012 1:48am

Still baffled why the 307 has to turn left despite his lane continuing on, a lane which you have to cut across to take the same exit.

Surely it would make more sense for the 307 lane to be left or straight on, and your lane is straight on only? Video must make it look weird, no doubt you are correct, just doesn't look right!

Nissan doctor · 26-01-2012 2:13am

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Still baffled why the 307 has to turn left despite his lane continuing on, a lane which you have to cut across to take the same exit.

Surely it would make more sense for the 307 lane to be left or straight on, and your lane is straight on only? Video must make it look weird, no doubt you are correct, just doesn't look right!

Longer version here....shows roundabout/lanes much clearer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJfUNB61S6E

cormie · 26-01-2012 2:17am

I have a DRS1100 fitted to each van and with all I see, I wouldn't be without one, they are definitely worth the investment.

The DRS1100 is by Xdriven and I believe is rebranded as a Roadhawk in the UK. It records on a continuous loop and saves segments if there is a shock to the car or if you press the record button. These segments won't be recorded over. It also has GPS, speed, shock readings and information.

The quality is decent but could be better, I know there's 1080 recorders out there etc, but I won't be upgrading mine until there's a 1080 or close to it model like the DRS1100 with the true blackbox features. The fact you have it constantly plugged in and don't have to worry about turning it on each time is invaluable itself. I know if I had to manually turn it on or connect it, I'd probably forget a lot but with this, as soon as I turn the engine on, it starts recording.

I gave the following footage to the Gardai recently after it was requested and was thanked after giving it in to them. I just had to make a statement saying it wasn't edited in any way etc and they thought it was a great idea to have. They have similar fitted to the ANPR set up in some cars.

As you can see, the quality is ok, but could be better, it's a bit tricky to make out the cyclist who gets hit, but it would be sufficient for most incidents, especially with the likes of fraud cases.

(Best to go onto youtube itself and watch in 720p)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxxCCpdQ7Xw

To be fair to the couple in the original video, it seemed like a mistake by the woman. It looked like they wanted to park in that space on the right and already had their indicator on, she only saw the space after passing the bus and had to reverse a bit to get into it but reversed without seeing the guy behind and immediately put the blame on him. The man with her didn't seem to put the blame on him so much as she did. Whatever the intention, it definitely shows he's not to blame.

Harcrid · 26-01-2012 11:55am

Nissan doctor wrote: »

Longer version here....shows roundabout/lanes much clearer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJfUNB61S6E

To be honest I still cant see what the 307 did wrong here.

tobsey · 26-01-2012 1:35pm

Celtxx wrote: »

To be honest I still cant see what the 307 did wrong here.

The left lane is for turning lef tonly. The right lane is for left or straight through. I know it goes against the norm and in their defence it may have been too late to change lanes when the saw the raod markings.

Guy:Incognito · 26-01-2012 1:41pm

tobsey wrote: »

. I know it goes against the norm and in their defence it may have been too late to change lanes when the saw the raod markings.

That doesnt excuse just blindly pulling across someone else though.

dharn · 26-01-2012 1:47pm

looks to me that nissan doc was in wrong lane, in fact both cars seem to be in the wrong lanes

Guy:Incognito · 26-01-2012 1:48pm

dharn wrote: »

looks to me that nissan doc was in wrong lane, in fact both cars seem to be in the wrong lanes

Might look that way but he's already explained that the road markings say he's in the right.

MugMugs · 26-01-2012 1:51pm

dharn wrote: »

looks to me that nissan doc was in wrong lane, in fact both cars seem to be in the wrong lanes

Know that roundabout well. Doc is right. Pug is wrong.

Harcrid · 26-01-2012 1:57pm

Whoever designed that lane layout is wrong if thats the case.

Edit: Looking at it again I still dont see any lane markings to indicate that the left lane is for left turn only at that junction. In fact the last markings I see in the left lane before the turn seem to indicate you can go straight or right.

damo86 · 26-01-2012 1:59pm

Would of made the same mistake as the pug to be honest if I didn't know the lanes. Typical road marking no consistancy!!

Guy:Incognito · 26-01-2012 2:05pm

damo86 wrote: »

Would of made the same mistake as the pug to be honest if I didn't know the lanes. Typical road marking no consistancy!!

Which is why you should be readign the signs and road markings. Rules of the road tells you to do X unless local markings say otherwise.

Jimmy Bottlehead · 26-01-2012 3:08pm

NissanDoctor is right, I come on that roundabout at least twice every day and it's another odd one. The Peugeot is wrong though.

eqwjewoiujqorj · 26-01-2012 3:18pm

Jimmy Bottlehead wrote: »

NissanDoctor is right, I come on that roundabout at least twice every day and it's another odd one. The Peugeot is wrong though.

This is a local roundabout for local people.

Nissan doctor · 26-01-2012 4:06pm

eqwjewoiujqorj wrote: »

This is a local roundabout for local people.

Its exit 2 of the M50, airport one side, ballymun on the other so nothing 'local' about it.

The lane markings are clear and numerous.

For those saying they can't see what the 307 did wrong....when do you enter a roundabout in the left lane when you want to take the third exit? And when do you make any maneuver on a roundabout without indicating?

Harcrid · 26-01-2012 4:17pm

On the video, when you stop at the first set of lights, the road markings in the left lane show that you can go straight ahead or turn left. In my mind anyone in the right lane looking to exit left after this point should change to the left lane after this set of lights.

The thing is that this is a large roundabout with lights on it so it's not quite as straight forward as a normal roundabout. I still think the 307 was not in the wrong.

s_carnage · 26-01-2012 4:36pm

BX 19 wrote: »

If you have an Android - Daily Roads Voyger does the job

Downloaded that today and looks to be really good. Just wondering what dash holder are you using for the phone as any ones I see on ebay look like it might cover the camera on the phone.

Nissan doctor · 26-01-2012 4:40pm

Celtxx wrote: »

On the video, when you stop at the first set of lights, the road markings in the left lane show that you can go straight ahead or turn left. In my mind anyone in the right lane looking to exit left after this point should change to the left lane after this set of lights.

The thing is that this is a large roundabout with lights on it so it's not quite as straight forward as a normal roundabout. I still think the 307 was not in the wrong.

You don't think that being in the left lane on a roundabout when you want to go right is wrong? You don't think not indicating on a roundabout is wrong?

no1beemerfan · 26-01-2012 4:47pm

I've used that roundabout dozens of times and the pug 207 is wrong. The driver is in the lane that one takes IF they are going onto the M50 and nothing else.

The Skoda and Nissan Doc are in the lane that you can go onto the M50 or continue on the roundabout.

Result is that Pug is 100% wrong.

Edit - just want to ad I've got myself a dashcam off ebay today so looking forward to getting it!

Harcrid · 26-01-2012 4:57pm

I'm not so sure actually because of the layout of this large roundabout with all the the traffic lights and multiple lanes. Should it be treated as a normal free flow roundabout? Thats something I honestly dont know. I am not from that part of the country so I dont know that particular roundabout so I am basing my opinion on the video.

I think once the cars are stopped at the lights and traffic is at a standstill the situation should be taken as is. ie, left lane for exit left or straight ahead and right lane for continuing around.

In any case any confusion by either parties here is understandable so I am not laying blame at anyone! :-)

Harcrid · 26-01-2012 5:00pm

no1beemerfan wrote: »

I've used that roundabout dozens of times and the pug 207 is wrong. The driver is in the lane that one takes IF they are going onto the M50 and nothing else.
!

Are there markings there to indicate that though because from his point of view he is stopped at traffic lights and he has an empty lane straight ahead of him so when the lights go red is understandable to think he can go straight? I am speaking as a culchie who might find themselves in the same situation as the 207 next time I go to the airport so genuinely curious.

Pique · 26-01-2012 6:05pm

Nissan doctor wrote: »

You don't think that being in the left lane on a roundabout when you want to go right is wrong? You don't think not indicating on a roundabout is wrong?

You do not want to use the Tesco roundabout in Letterkenny any time soon, Doc.
I have had someone pull up to the roundabout in the left lane with me in the right lane, then proceed to drive completely around the roundabout to the 4th exit (5 exit roundabout) when I was exiting at the 3rd and almost take me out.

This has happened me at least 3 times in the past month !!

I also ride through there on a motorbike, and I can tell you THAT'S scary !!

The amount of numpties with NO idea about lane positioning, lane discipline or spatial awareness on the roads is worrying.

It's one of the main selling points of high-powered cars, tbh, the ability to plant your foot and escape the danger posed by these fools.

Edit: In the above cases, you would need side-view cameras in your car too (and probably a rear-facing one too)

Nissan doctor · 26-01-2012 6:06pm

Celtxx wrote: »

Are there markings there to indicate that though because from his point of view he is stopped at traffic lights and he has an empty lane straight ahead of him so when the lights go red is understandable to think he can go straight? I am speaking as a culchie who might find themselves in the same situation as the 207 next time I go to the airport so genuinely curious.

Just follow the signs and road markings and there will be no reason to get confused.

ciotog · 26-01-2012 6:23pm

cormie wrote: »

I have a DRS1100 fitted to each van and with all I see, I wouldn't be without one, they are definitely worth the investment.

The DRS1100 is by Xdriven and I believe is rebranded as a Roadhawk in the UK. It records on a continuous loop and saves segments if there is a shock to the car or if you press the record button. These segments won't be recorded over. It also has GPS, speed, shock readings and information.

The quality is decent but could be better, I know there's 1080 recorders out there etc, but I won't be upgrading mine until there's a 1080 or close to it model like the DRS1100 with the true blackbox features. The fact you have it constantly plugged in and don't have to worry about turning it on each time is invaluable itself. I know if I had to manually turn it on or connect it, I'd probably forget a lot but with this, as soon as I turn the engine on, it starts recording.

I gave the following footage to the Gardai recently after it was requested and was thanked after giving it in to them. I just had to make a statement saying it wasn't edited in any way etc and they thought it was a great idea to have. They have similar fitted to the ANPR set up in some cars.

That's a nifty camera - battery powered would be handy, I have a Flip Ultra HD which I had attached to my bicycle frame with a gorillapod but hasn't proved as easy to attach to my current bicycle. I had a similar experience with Gardai when I used footage to make a complaint about dangerous overtaking (I wanted the Gardai to have a word with the driver and let him know that he needed to be more careful passing a cyclist). They thought it was a great idea and made the point that all their cars should have a similar device. This is a very useful thread because I'm toying with finding another cheap camera that I could mount on the rear of the bicycle

Harcrid · 26-01-2012 7:17pm

I'll bow to local knowledge on this one so and let the thread get back on topic.

Mycroft H · 26-01-2012 11:15pm

Joe10000 wrote: »

Nice of you to stop !! Was that last week ? Think I passed it.

Emm no it was before Christmas I think. Yea I slowed down and stuck the hazards to warn other people.

s_carnage wrote: »

Downloaded that today and looks to be really good. Just wondering what dash holder are you using for the phone as any ones I see on ebay look like it might cover the camera on the phone.

Its a free one that came with my Nokia E52. Bit like this

The holder isnt the most ideal, the charger is blocked and you have to place it in the holder awkwardly. Contributes to the vibration you can see in the video

Nissan doctor · 27-01-2012 1:23am

Celtxx wrote: »

I'll bow to local knowledge on this one so and let the thread get back on topic.

Its nothing to do with local knowledge....even disregarding any specific road markings on this particular roundabout and using the basic rules of a simple roundabout, the Peugeot is still completely wrong!

Its often mentioned on this forum how few Irish people know how to use roundabouts properly and some of the posts here prove it IMO.

I hadn't foreseen a discussion like this from that video I must say but I agree on getting back to topic.

antodeco · 27-01-2012 1:28am

I've a Roadhawk dashcam for issues like this. Just means if anyone tries anything, I have proof what they did!

Noopti · 27-01-2012 10:00am

Nissan doctor wrote: »

The lane I and the superb ahead are in is signposted/arrowed for M50 north and/or city center/ballymun.

The lane the 307 is in is for M50 north only.

No it's not. I use that roundabout all the time. The sign on the gantry above the slip road leading up to the roundabout are:

| Ballymun - City Centre | Ballymun - City Centre

So if you are exiting for M50 Northbound you should be in the left lane only. If you are exiting for Ballymun you can use the left or right lane (Ballymun exit is a two lane exit also, whereas the M50 Northbound is a one lane exit).

You will find that using that exit you will encounter lots of cars in both lanes exiting for Ballymun, and the odd nutcase in the right lane cutting across everyone to take the first exit.

Edit: Like people are saying, you follow what the signs/road markings say - and what they say is left and right lane = Ballymun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ygm6XCdKRc
Skip to 6 mins, wait for the overhead sign above the exit slip road to come into clear view and Pause. You can clearly see that both the left and right lanes are marked for Ballymun (R108).

Tea drinker · 27-01-2012 10:29am

could have done with one of these the other day. Someone pulled out from a junction on to upper kilmacud, then pulls in to left, brakes on, then just as I drive by slaps on right indicator and pulls straight across in front of me. Just about managed to take avoiding action, but now I see a cut in my tyre and a scuff on the alloy where I ditched against the kerb avoiding. Should have stopped and had a word but as no impact between us I just drove away. Feckin eejit (both of us!)

Harcrid · 27-01-2012 11:20am

Nissan doctor wrote: »

Its nothing to do with local knowledge....even disregarding any specific road markings on this particular roundabout and using the basic rules of a simple roundabout, the Peugeot is still completely wrong!.

I know how to use a roundabout.

By local knowledge I mean road markings. If there are markings there that state that the lane the 207 is in is for the M50 North exit only then he is in the wrong I agree.

But not every roundabout is the same. Sometime if you are in the left lane at an exit you have to take that exit, othertimes you can continue past it to the next exit. Thats why knowing the signs and markings would be important in this case and why I am bowing to local knowledge of these markings.

Jimdagym · 27-01-2012 5:26pm

Less talk, more lunatic Russians!!!

Jarren · 27-01-2012 5:36pm

Jimdagym wrote: »

Less talk, more lunatic Russians!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wkc5ElsTMSs

CyberGhost · 27-01-2012 5:54pm

Nissan doctor wrote: »

Yet another roundabout issue, wrong lane, no indication....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjC8gb8KFLQ&list=UUf2FXl96khtO_Jl43BrAzuA&index=1&feature=plcp

Ugh... don't start with the roundabouts please, 85% of the drivers don't even know how to use an indicator at the roundabout.

Man, that pisses me off! When you see somebody indicating right, you slow down, only for them to take the left exit... ASSHOLES!

wrmwit · 27-01-2012 6:11pm

Veloce wrote: »

Does anyone know of any incidents like this happening here in the ROI?

I remember hearing a story on the wireless about this type of scam happening to someone in Dublin. There are so many CCTV's around the place between Garda ones and shop owners CCTV that I'm sure you'd be able to prove it.

Another pointer is that no matter how big or small an accident, whether a scam or not, always call the guards, so at least they're third party and witness if it ends up in court.

jimbis · 27-01-2012 6:24pm

@NissanDoc, With the camera you have hardwired in, Theres a battery in aswell yeah?
If you have the ignition off then the battery will keep it going till it dies. Does it still keep the correct time and date when power is restored?

I want to get one and hardwire it in so i can just forget about it but if (hopefully never) i had to show it in court and the time/date was wrong it mightend hold up. I sometimes this can be the case with cctv.

In saying that though ill probibly still get one regardless but just thought id ask!

Nissan doctor · 27-01-2012 6:27pm

jimbis wrote: »

@NissanDoc, With the camera you have hardwired in, Theres a battery in aswell yeah?
If you have the ignition off then the battery will keep it going till it dies. Does it still keep the correct time and date when power is restored?

I want to get one and hardwire it in so i can just forget about it but if (hopefully never) i had to show it in court and the time/date was wrong it mightend hold up. I sometimes this can be the case with cctv.

In saying that though ill probibly still get one regardless but just thought id ask!

There is a battery in it too(like a Nokia phone battery). The time and date has remained correct on mine but TBH I haven't removed the battery since I got it. I have looked back through plenty of footage running just on the camera's battery and it has never come close to running down either.

eringobragh · 27-01-2012 6:43pm

Nissan doctor wrote: »

There is a battery in it too(like a Nokia phone battery). The time and date has remained correct on mine but TBH I haven't removed the battery since I got it. I have looked back through plenty of footage running just on the camera's battery and it has never come close to running down either.

Thats a great feature..mine sadly doesn't have that

Tea drinker · 27-01-2012 7:14pm

how long do the cams last on battery only, when recording?
These HD ones,the difference between the nightvision one and the no nightvision is it uses some leds to light some things close by like passengers, it hasn't got a more sensitive sensor?
http://www.carcameradirect.com/order.php

Gumbo · 27-01-2012 11:38pm

OK, so heres my Temp set up :

This sample is the camera on the 2MP setting, the other setting is HD, but my SD card at present is only 2GB and that only allows 20mins of recording so i will do a HD run in the morning and upload that so i can compare the two.

Any comments welcome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2y6uElZJWc

Dash cam saves your ass (no Roundabout stuff please :)

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