Chelsea Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2011/2012

smuckers · 19-06-2011 7:03pm

Yep Gus will be here by end of next week hopefully and Lukaku will be unveiled.

MUSEIST · 19-06-2011 7:12pm

Yeah hopefully guus will be here this week.

This modric saga could go on for ages. At least lukaku looks like its done, we need modric and then a replacement for anelka also and maybe a right back. We need to get the manager sorted first and then things willmove quicker imo.

Sgt Pepper 64 · 19-06-2011 8:26pm

Bertrand's off to Wolves on loan when he gets back, apparently

http://www.teamtalk.com/chelsea/6996675/Wolves-offered-Bertrand-on-loan

Surely sending the youngsters to teams like Wolves isnt going to help their confidence?

McDave · 19-06-2011 8:39pm

amiable wrote: »

I'd back it now if i were you.
If as expected Chelsea appoint Guus and sign Lukaku, Modric and another couple of good players the price will get smaller IMO

Definitely.

I reckon the journos won't be so hot on Chelsea in their pre-season predictions. There's probably going to be a lot of bedding down this time round, especially if we have immediate transitions in more than a couple of key positions (e.g. Lampard, Drogba). The critics will also be keeping a keen eye on Sideshow Bob to see if he can keep out of the clink and stay focussed on the job at hand.

However, five or six good results in a row and the odds will definitely shorten, and it'll be business as usual. Which would be an excellent outcome for the early stages of the first real evolution of a Chelsea Mark II in the RA era.

Lukker- · 19-06-2011 8:39pm

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

Bertrand's off to Wolves on loan when he gets back, apparently

http://www.teamtalk.com/chelsea/6996675/Wolves-offered-Bertrand-on-loan

Surely sending the youngsters to teams like Wolves isnt going to help their confidence?

He'll get vital first time experience in the PL, it will definitely help.

Wolves are a decent side too.

McDave · 19-06-2011 8:55pm

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

Aquero say you?

http://www.sportsvibe.co.uk/news/football/chelsea-put-sensational-50m-bid-in-for-sergio-aguero/

Seems we are doing a scattergun approach - Just bid for every top star, and surely we will get one??!!

And those teams know we can pay decent money for them.

Which in a funny way gives us a kind of bargaining power which will prevent us getting totally stiffed on actual fees for players those teams are happy to sell for a fair+ price.

Sgt Pepper 64 · 19-06-2011 9:35pm

So lets look inside Roman's head :eek:
He wants to move away from the power football that Mourinho brought us with Drogba to something more subtle and creative using Torres as the main man.
Who would be the best partner for Torres?
I'd place Aquero above most of the names we have been linked with in terms of skill, but he'd be wasted as a winger?
Neymar promises to be something special, but I dont think we'll get him.
Then you have your Modrics, snjeders etc
Whats the ideal formation to get the best out of Torres?
2 strikers? 1 behind torres?
Or wingers?
We know chelsea want Drogba to stay, probably as a plan B
So I reckon its goodby Anelka, Kalou and Malouda.
Danny will slot into the Kalou role
Lampard will probably be benched
Essien could be the same, or sold

Cant wait to see Guus's first formations

And where exactly is Lukaku going to fit in?
Surely we wouldnt pay 20 million and bench him?

I want answers people!

Lukker- · 19-06-2011 10:07pm

Lampard will be prominent enough this season if he can stay fit. Can't see Essien being dropped either, he will probably feature more in the DM role though freeing up room for Ramires/new cm. IF we did get Modric, he could play easily enough where Anelka/Kalou play but a bit deeper. He has loads of pace and has been used on the wing by Spurs before.

Glico Man · 19-06-2011 11:06pm

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

So lets look inside Roman's head :eek:
He wants to move away from the power football that Mourinho brought us with Drogba to something more subtle and creative using Torres as the main man.
Who would be the best partner for Torres?
I'd place Aquero above most of the names we have been linked with in terms of skill, but he'd be wasted as a winger?
Neymar promises to be something special, but I dont think we'll get him.
Then you have your Modrics, snjeders etc
Whats the ideal formation to get the best out of Torres?
2 strikers? 1 behind torres?
Or wingers?
We know chelsea want Drogba to stay, probably as a plan B
So I reckon its goodby Anelka, Kalou and Malouda.
Danny will slot into the Kalou role
Lampard will probably be benched
Essien could be the same, or sold

Cant wait to see Guus's first formations

And where exactly is Lukaku going to fit in?
Surely we wouldnt pay 20 million and bench him?

I want answers people!

I'll give you an answer since you asked so nicely

Well if you take a look at the way he played when he was at his best at Liverpool, he needs to be the main and only striker. Our formation was a 4-2-3-1 with him as the focal point of attack. His best attribute was his ability to drift out wide left, pulling his marker with him creating space for the 3 behind him. He would then cut inside, using his pace (dunno is he still has it now) and play intricate passes with the 3 and get a shot away.

Alternatively, we had Gerrard/Alonso/Yossi playing fantastic through balls for him to run onto and smash into the net. Ye need to play him as a one up top with 3 players, willing and able to support him, including a playmaker type a la Alonso to continuously move the ball around then make the pass when there's space. If ye get Modric or Sneijder then that's one step closer.

Even if you look at the way he played for Spain, the time they got the best out of him was when he was a lone striker at Euro 2008 rather than paired with Villa at the WC. Even then it was Torres who used to drift out wide, creating space for Villa to run into and get the goals.

GavRedKing · 20-06-2011 8:29am

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

I want answers people!

Best partners for Torres, IMO is Neymar. His ability is second to no one his age on the planet and some of the things he can do with the ball at his feet even surpass C.Ronaldo. People have questioned his attitude but the youngster loves football and wants to prove his ability, he'd be fantastic.

Give him a free role where he doesnt have to track back and let him roam free and destroy teams.

Cant see us signing him though which is the sad and annoying part.

Guus formation, assumng we get Guus in will be 4-2-3-1. Thats what im betting on anyway.

From current squad I would go with these players.

Cech

Ivanovic

Alex

Terry

Cole-

Essien

Luiz

---Ramires

Lampard

Malouda-

Torres

Although that could be changed to drop Lamps further back and replace him with Modric. Put Neymar out wide left.

Its a tricky situtaion as we have yet to see players leave. We will have a clear picture in a few weeks though and I cant wait.

GavRedKing · 20-06-2011 8:52am

What I really cant wait for this season is the return of the_monkey.

I miss his crazy, crazy rants and mad predictions after we draw or lose a game, or if we dont turn over a team.

Come back the_monkey and be as crazy as ever, but try not to rack up the infractions. :cool:

Sgt Pepper 64 · 20-06-2011 9:04am

Looks like we will be moving on to the next Modric type target

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/modric-changes-tack-after-spurs-stand-firm-over-chelsea-interest-2299988.html

Or is it just a "cunning" ploy?

amiable · 20-06-2011 9:07am

SkyGraemeBaileyGraeme Bailey

Reports emerging in Portugal claiming that Chelsea are ready to appoint Porto coach Andre Villas-Boas...more on this to follow #cfc

Sgt Pepper 64 · 20-06-2011 9:11am

amiable wrote: »

SkyGraemeBaileyGraeme Bailey

Reports emerging in Portugal claiming that Chelsea are ready to appoint Porto coach Andre Villas-Boas...more on this to follow #cfc

OMG!
I heard it was the number 2 target but wow

He has a huge release clause

GavRedKing · 20-06-2011 9:12am

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

Looks like we will be moving on to the next Modric type target

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/modric-changes-tack-after-spurs-stand-firm-over-chelsea-interest-2299988.html

Or is it just a "cunning" ploy?

Sneijder please or Neymar or both. :pac:

amiable wrote: »

SkyGraemeBaileyGraeme Bailey

Reports emerging in Portugal claiming that Chelsea are ready to appoint Porto coach Andre Villas-Boas...more on this to follow #cfc

Interesting.......very interesting.

GavRedKing · 20-06-2011 9:15am

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

OMG!
I heard it was the number 2 target but wow

He has a huge release clause

Maybe Guss didnt want it. Although appointing Villa Boas wouldnt be too bad either, a young, fresh approach to things. Interestign to monitor anyway for us Blue fans.

amiable · 20-06-2011 9:15am

I suppose its a wait and see but i would presume Chelsea fans will be put out of your misery this week.
Villa Boas would be an excellent appointment IMO
I was certain it was going to be Guus

GavRedKing · 20-06-2011 9:18am

amiable wrote: »

I suppose its a wait and see but i would presume Chelsea fans will be put out of your misery this week.
Villa Boas would be an excellent appointment IMO
I was certain it was going to be Guus

Agreed, TBH, he would be an excellent appointment also. I would have trumped Guus and then he would have been my 2nd choice, anybody but Hughes or Redknapp that the media we're mentioning early on.

amiable · 20-06-2011 9:20am

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11668_6997261,00.html

Porto president Pinta da Costa has admitted he is helpless to prevent Andre Villas-Boas leaving as reports claim Chelsea have made a move for him.
Over the weekend Inter Milan made an approach for the brilliant young tactician, who led Porto to three trophies last season, including the domestic double and the Europa League.
Inter, though, baulked at the idea of paying his €15million (£13.2m) release clause, but that would not be an issue for Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich if he did move for him.
Reports from Portugal claim that is the case and that Chelsea have turned their attention to the 33-year-old, who has already served as a coach at Stamford Bridge.
Villas-Boas is a protege of former Blues chief Jose Mourinho, and worked with him at Porto, Chelsea and Inter Milan before embarking on his managerial career in 2009.
After one year with Academica, he was appointed Porto chief in 2010 and he has blossomed.
Villas-Boas insisted after the Europa League final win that he was committed to Porto but that resolve now looks as if it could be tested.
And Da Costa admits he cannot stand in his way: "Villas Boas has a contract and a clause of €15million.
"If someone deposits €15million into our account and he wants to go, we can not do anything because it is something that is contractually specified."
Chelsea have been locked in talks with Turkey coach Guus Hiddink about returning to the club.
The Blues have been talking with Hiddink about taking either the coach's job or the sporting director role, and should he take on the latter then there would also be, in theory, room for Villas-Boas to also come on board.

GavRedKing · 20-06-2011 9:25am

amiable wrote: »

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11668_6997261,00.html

So a possible team of Guus as D.O.F. with Villa Boas as a manager would cost us in the region of 21Million Euro to buy out the contracts and thats before we sign them to their own contracts. Huge investment if its true and if it is I only hope to god that Villa Boas gets more then 2years to build and shape his Chelsea dream.

If Roman is to persuade him to take up the Managerial role he has to be given time, but Villa Boas would understand the pressure having worked with Mourihno under the same extreme conditions.

Business is picking up. :pac:

Panthro · 20-06-2011 9:27am

Chelsea in talks with 'Arry!
Link here

Gotya Gav!

Sgt Pepper 64 · 20-06-2011 9:39am

gavredking wrote: »

So a possible team of Guus as D.O.F. with Villa Boas as a manager would cost us in the region of 21Million Euro to buy out the contracts and thats before we sign them to their own contracts. Huge investment if its true and if it is I only hope to god that Villa Boas gets more then 2years to build and shape his Chelsea dream.

If Roman is to persuade him to take up the Managerial role he has to be given time, but Villa Boas would understand the pressure having worked with Mourihno under the same extreme conditions.

Business is picking up. :pac:

He's a big risk IMO. Premier league is a different kettle of fish, and he has to win it or the CL!

Maybe we will wait for Guus untill his contract runs out and then he is DOF

Arry linky no worky

GavRedKing · 20-06-2011 9:44am

papagormo wrote: »

Chelsea in talks with 'Arry!
Link here

Gotya Gav!

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

Arry linky no worky

GavRedKing · 20-06-2011 9:46am

papagormo wrote: »

Chelsea in talks with 'Arry!
Link here

Gotya Gav!

Pheeeeew :mad:

:P

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

He's a big risk IMO. Premier league is a different kettle of fish, and he has to win it or the CL!

Maybe we will wait for Guus untill his contract runs out and then he is DOF

Arry linky no worky

I wouldnt worry about it TBH. Villa Boas would be like Mourihno, unproven at the " top level " but I think like Mourihno he would easily be able to handle the job. Id take a punt on him and apparently Roman wants to.

Sgt Pepper 64 · 20-06-2011 9:51am

gavredking wrote: »

LOL, (slaps head!) i took that to be about Modric!
Another 2 weeks and Hughes is free!

amiable · 20-06-2011 10:11am

The Villa Boas story is gathering pace.
The Mirror is running with the story too.

RichT · 20-06-2011 10:20am

amiable wrote: »

The Villa Boas story is gathering pace.

The Bookies aren't getting too excited........yet.

LanceStorm · 20-06-2011 10:22am

Im fine with the Villas-Boas appointment as long as we have Hiddink on board as director of football.

I know that role has never really worked before as everyone is waiting for him to eventually be appointed as manager but I think if thats the position he's wanted all along, then he'll still be day to day as he wanted to be but just not the one with the pressure on his shoulders, but just offering advise as he has done in the last few years!

Johner · 20-06-2011 10:25am

chelseayouth Chelsea Youth
Jornal de Notícias say #CFC will pay Villas-Boas' €15m buyout clause and pay him €5m per season, the same salary Mourinho earned.

smuckers · 20-06-2011 10:27am

A paper in portugal says he's after leaving for London immediately, if true didn't see this one coming.:)

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