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2007+ S80 2.5T vs 2005+ E60 523/525+
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15-10-2012 11:12am#1Looking for E60 BMW 5 series, 525s mainly but they are thin on the ground. Most petrols are 523 and the same tax as the more powerful 525s.
From looking at carzone I see a few 2.5T S80 which, while not as pretty as an MSport, seem to have plenty of options specced. Do they have the ST engine, 5 cyl turbo? It must be detuned to 200 bhp so presumably it can be easily remapped to 250+.
Currently for the same year, a dealer S80 is a bit cheaper than a private 525.
Am I a bad person for considering the S80?
which would you go for? 17 votes
2007+ Volvo S80 2.5T0% 0 votes2005+ BMW E60 523/525100% 17 votes0
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Looking for E60 BMW 5 series, 525s mainly but they are thin on the ground. Most petrols are 523 and the same tax as the more powerful 525s.
From looking at carzone I see a few 2.5T S80 which, while not as pretty as an MSport, seem to have plenty of options specced. Do they have the ST engine, 5 cyl turbo? It must be detuned to 200 bhp so presumably it can be easily remapped to 250+.
Currently for the same year, a dealer S80 is a bit cheaper than a private 525.
Am I a bad person for considering the S80?
The S80 is very comfortable, but it's not quick. I haven't driven a manual model (if it ever came as manual with that engine) but the auto is surprisingly slow for a 200bhp 5 cylinder turbo. It's not helped by an old skool 4 speed auto box, and it's very heavy on fuel.
Not a car to be "pushed on" like a 5 series, more a car to "waft" along in.
It will also continue to depreciate like a stone covered in lead. Engine is just over 2,500cc so it's taxed as a 2.6.0 -
I thought it had a 6 speed auto, 8.0 seconds to 100 km/h, while not fast, it's not too slow either. The 523 is 9.3 to 100, the 2005-2007 525 is 7.9.
And the Volvo can be remapped (right?)
It's a bummer about the tax, would the urban fuel consumption be less than 20 mpg?
Maybe the S80 should be the car I replace the 525 with ...
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Hi Matt, yes I'm looking at 530is too, there just aren't enough (any?) examples I like for the price I'm prepared to pay. There is one private asking 14500, when I mentioned you could get an MSport from dealers for 6k+ less, he stopped communicating. Nice car and all, would I pay double for the privilege?
Why consider the S80? Initially I wasn't but money rules and if I can get an S80
for 3k cheaper than the 525/530 (again, which are very rare seems to me, and the 523 would be a compromise in my view)..
Then again, on the sliding scale of man maths, if you are even considering upper tax brackets, just do it all the way (tax band stops at 3.0):
http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/5-Series/545-I-E6/6213356044711340/advert?channel=CARS
There have been a couple of 540/545i E60s around, none advertised more than 9k, that one 6k ish. Remove the fake M5 tat, and its a pretty awesome motor. Put some of the 4k you save on asking into a full servicing and new tyres (or spare smaller winter tyre set) and you are laughing.
I would even argue the M62 V8 is a more reliable engine than the Volvo or high revving NA 6pot.
MPG would be within 10% of the 6pot and possibly better than the Volvo's boosted 5pot.
And it sounds like a V8.
PS: Edit your poll to allow a neither or V8 option.
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Sure, why not add 10k and get the real deal
can't edit the poll...
with the 4.3l engine I'm a bit concerned with insurance costs and thief appeal, especially with the fake kit. I'm not excluding it from the start, but it needs to be something really special...0 -
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Why so black and white?Supergurrier wrote: »Drive both, you will either love the Volvo or not
Well the ownership costs between an E60 M5 (5.0 V10) and 545 (4.4 V8) are pretty big (MPG, parts etc). Remember the M5 is the M version, the 545i (as much as I promote it) is the car yanks drive about in, its meant to be "normal" and everyday friendly. In Ireland its pretty special however.Sure, why not add 10k and get the real deal
can't edit the poll...
with the 4.3l engine I'm a bit concerned with insurance costs and thief appeal, especially with the fake kit. I'm not excluding it from the start, but it needs to be something really special...
What age are you? I never find much difference on Insurance based on engine size in the last 5years (from 2.4 Turbo diesel to 5.6V12 to 4.2 V8). Thats more of a <25year old owner problem.
Theft isnt a (specific) problem as
a) Remove the M5 badges (Id leave the rest)
b) Its not an M5, 4 seconds on Cartell / Motorcheck with the reg plate tells them that
c) Regarding theft for resale, its worth less than the other options which surely means a 2007 525i / S80 is a greater theft risk?0 -
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35, 3 years NCB and can get insurance for ~600 fully comp on the 530
Would you leave the quad pipes in place? Don't think I could live with them... Presumably the MSport kit is not original?
Aside from the side grilles, badges and pipes, an MSport and M5 look the same anyhow. Id leave the quad pipes, BMW M didnt invent them or have a patent on 4 pipes. 0 -
I thought it had a 6 speed auto, 8.0 seconds to 100 km/h, while not fast, it's not too slow either. The 523 is 9.3 to 100, the 2005-2007 525 is 7.9.
And the Volvo can be remapped (right?)
It's a bummer about the tax, would the urban fuel consumption be less than 20 mpg?
Maybe the S80 should be the car I replace the 525 with ...
It's been a while since I drove one, but I delivered one of the first F10 520d's down to Wexford and brought back a 2007 2.5T S80 Auto. Fairly sure the S80 was only a 4 speed Auto (but I might be wrong) and it certainly didn't feel like an 8 second car to 60. Wasn't even too impressive for mid range acceleration where a large (ish) displacement, Turbo should come in to it's own.
As for fuel, our boss ended up driving the S80 and just to get out of the office on the last day before Christmas, I went and filled it up for him. Can't remember the tank size, but I do remember that it was showing 440km to empty on the on board computer :eek:0 -
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no, the 535 euro is the quote, it just so happens it's for an 530i.. .maybe it's a sign and I should get a 535(d) insured for 545 euro?
No I wouldn't go diesel - although seeing that blue 530d for 7600 on donedeal last week almost made me worship the divil...
Edit: surely those are at least 20 inch alloys on the 545 and not 18s like in the ad?0
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