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UPC - paying for broadband only, receiving analogue cable & RTE Two HD
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26-02-2012 3:00pm#1
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The 17 or so channels you are picking up are part of UPC's analogue tv service,it seems that once you subscribe to their broadband service you get these 'free' even though you shouldn't.This will be switched off at some stage by UPC but not for a while.
Watty gave some good advice,thousands of free channels available via satellite.If you have a SouthEast facing balcony it's perfect,pretty easy to hide a dish on it if you are not allowed to put one up.
Something like this would do,even stick a few flower pots beside it for camouflage.
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Ronnie Raygun wrote: »Where's this coming from?
That's what I was about to ask. I can understand that analogue channels are not encrypted and that's why I get them, but how come they don't encrypt RTE 2 HD?
Anyway, the dish idea is a nice one, my balcony is facing South East. The only problem is that it's a shared balcony:roll eyes: although we could always reach an agreement.
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That's what I was about to ask. I can understand that analogue channels are not encrypted and that's why I get them, but how come they don't encrypt RTE 2 HD?
RTÉ2 HD isn't on UPC cable yet that I know of, expected to be available Mar/Apr.
If it's Saorview RTÉ2 HD the cabling in the apartment block may be acting like an aerial picking up a strong terrestrial signal.0 -
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Maybe they are testing something and you can pick it up like this, without using the decoder. I've absolutely no idea:D it just looks like much of a coincidence that I have a channel that it's not supposed to be there until a few months time. What I'm sure about is that this is the only "Saorview" channel that my TV is picking up, and that signal is somehow in the cable that comes out of the UPC outlet.
RTE2HD is one of channels you can distinguish as belonging to Saorview exclusively. If you look at the channel information you will see 738MHZ (Channel 54) in the information for the channel. You should also be picking up the rest of the Saorview "digital" channels, RTE1, 2 Tv3, 3e, RTE news Now and RTE1+1. Once you pick up one you pick up all of them, thats the way Saorview works. You will also notice that if you press radio on your Tv remote that you will have RTE radio channels.
The rest of your channels are probably off analogue UHF which is where some of the higher frequency analogue UPC cable channels are (470Mhz)+ that are being sent around the apartment complex via the internal cable Tv system. If you had an old video recorder you would pick up the rest as most of UPC's analogue channels which are on VHF - your new Tv probably doesnt have one of them
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ICDG gave you the answer as to how the UPC channels and Saorview are both being picked up by one cable being connected to your aerial connection on your TV. The cable run (no doubt going upwards) is acting as an aerial for Saorview channels as well as the internal cable system.0 -
RTE2HD is one of channels you can distinguish as belonging to Saorview exclusively.
It is supposed to be going on UPC shortly.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056558724
Maybe they are already testing it? (though not on their own EPG) and the the original poster has a TV with DVB-C capability. OP, please post what model TV you have ? Other digital channels not received due to encryption. What frequency (MHz) is shown for RTE2HD if you go into tuning menu, OP?The rest of your channels are probably off analogue UHF which is where some of the higher frequency analogue UPC cable channels are (470Mhz)+ that are being sent around the apartment complex via the internal cable Tv system. If you had an old video recorder you would pick up the rest as most of UPC's analogue channels which are on VHF - your new Tv probably doesnt have one of them.
I don't think the OP said anything to indicate the TV did not have VHF ??
The OP said 17 analogue cable channels (which is all of them?), so it must have VHF.
BTW OP the thread title is strange? I'd have thought if someone thought they were doing something illegal they would keep their mouth shut?0 -
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It is supposed to be going on UPC shortly.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056558724
Maybe they are already testing it? (though not on their own EPG) and the the original poster has a TV with DVB-C capability. OP, please post what model TV you have ? Other digital channels not received due to encryption. What frequency (MHz) is shown for RTE2HD if you go into tuning menu, OP?
I don't think the OP said anything to indicate the TV did not have VHF ??
The OP said 17 analogue cable channels (which is all of them?), so it must have VHF.
You would need more than a DVB-C tuner to pick up UPC off a cable feed. You would need a Nagravision3 CAM module and a viewing card! Thats why they supply proprietary cable boxes. So DVB-C tuner ruled out (I did consider it before posting initially!).
Its analogue UPC and Saorview Channels. You dont just pick up one station on Saorview, you pick up the whole mux.
RTE2HD is not testing on UPC yet. They are due to come on in April sometime.
The channels he has mentioned are at the UHF end of UPCs analogue broadcasts from memory. Also most branded TVs on market that could display MPEG4 broadcasts are Pan European models which dont have VHF......
Its not the first time people have been asking this question wondering how they are getting both with just a UPC cable attached. Badly screened cable make natural aerials.
Any bets on 738 for RTE2HD when he comes back ?
Mind you I could be wrong Antenna......0 -
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Touché Antenna.
But we dont know that he has a Saorview Approved TV! Might just as well be a MPEG4 TV with a DVB-C/DVB-T hybrid tuner, pan european. I am thinking Samsung or LG. Set for UK, no VHF.
Anyway as you say the scrambled channel does point towards the digital channels going across UPC's cable system. That would be picked up by the hybrid DVB-T/DVB-C tuner that are packaged in most LCDs since 2008. But it is most likely that his TV is picking up the encrypted DVB-C's and displaying the UPC Analogue channels together with the Saorview Channels. As you know most TVs will group all these together some ATV some DTV in one channel list.
I doubt we will ever know. We have probably scared him off. 0 -
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