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Laptop stolen - Software has screenshots of thief & exact location.Guards do nothing

  • 23-02-2012 7:54pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 929 ✭✭✭TheCardHolder


    Hey guys,

    Looking for advice on behalf of my friend.

    His laptop was stolen last week. He has prey software installed on it so as soon as the robber went onto it two nights ago, prey took screen shots and google maps screenshots of exactly where he is. My friend went into the guards two nights ago with this exact information with all this on a plate for them and they do absouletely nothing, the thief is still sitting there using the laptop and googling things like 'How to format a laptop' and 'DoneDeal.ie'.

    He is getting very frustrated as the guards know exactly where the thief lives and has several screenshots of him. Surely this is as good as CCTV footage?

    Any advice for what his next step should be should the guards continue to do nothing?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭AngryBollix


    donuts come first

    he should go around and get it himself. you sought the help of the gardai and they have failed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Call around to where the laptop is and take it back.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Defiler Of The Coffin


    Can he call into the station and ask for a superintendent or one of the higher-ups? Maybe they can explain why nothing is being done.

    Tell him to keep onto the guards about it - squeaky hinge gets the oil.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Have him inform the gardai that as they are doing nothing he is going over there with his brothers, uncles, cousins and friends to 'speak to them' at x time. Probably be a squad car there within half an hour.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,633 ✭✭✭Feeona


    Tell your friend I'll do a strip for him later if he lets me keep the laptop


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Set off the atomic clock inside the laptop and low everyone to bits?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭Fuhrer


    Post the details here, nothing could possibly go wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭AngryBollix


    buy a porno mag


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Defiler Of The Coffin


    biko wrote: »
    Set off the atomic clock inside the laptop and low everyone to bits?

    Atomic clock?! At least it will go off exactly when it's supposed to!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 899 ✭✭✭djk1000


    Go to the Garda station, refuse to leave without talking to someone above the rank of sergeant. Demand action or you'll take it to Joe Duffy, local TD, newspapers and Garda Ombudsman.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Does he have proof of ownership? A receipt? Records of the serial number?

    Not much can be done if he can't prove he actually owns the machine.

    Also,


    (Skip to ~3:30 to when the real story starts)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭Tim the Enchanter


    There was a similar thread some time ago. Cant find it but i think the thief was caught.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭longhalloween


    This is what's going to happen.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,668 ✭✭✭nlgbbbblth




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Standard Toaster


    Post the pics!!!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,408 ✭✭✭Captain_Generic


    Wait until he uses it for a **** and blackmail him with the screenshots


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    Buy few boxes of beer for your friends, then ask them to give you a hand to make a visit to that prick.

    Sorted!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭downwithpeace


    Have all the proof that your friend owns the laptop then go to the Garda station and if they refuse to do anything then inform them that the pictures and details of the thief will be posted online and sent to the local newspapers with detailed information on the lack of Garda help.


  • Registered Users Posts: 969 ✭✭✭murrayp4


    Wait till he goes onto facebook


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 80,755 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    Get a few people together and go round there and get it back


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭AngryBollix




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Ring up the Garda station and say that "A few friends and I are going to swing by the house where the laptop is currently located and intend on reclaiming it."

    There's nothing inherently "threatening" about that that will get you in to trouble and you'll prompt action from them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    Get Furio on the job. He'll get it back



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭cruiser178


    Go to location where the laptop is, smash the windows then casually walk to the top of the street, wait for the thief to call the gards. When they call to the address, walk up to them and ask them to retrieve your "friends" stolen laptop, that is of course, if you dont have the balls to get it yourself.


  • Registered Users Posts: 929 ✭✭✭TheCardHolder


    Seachmall wrote: »
    Does he have proof of ownership? A receipt? Records of the serial number?

    Not much can be done if he can't prove he actually owns the machine.

    Also,


    (Skip to ~3:30 to when the real story starts)

    He has absolutely everything and it is 100% his machine, otherwise he wouldn't have screenshots of everything the thief's doing!

    His one concern with posting the photos is that the person will get spooked and ditch the laptop somewhere and never get it back.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,990 ✭✭✭JustAddWater


    go into the garda station and tell them you're not leaving until they do something about this

    Be prepared for a very long sit in


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Go around to his house, punch yourself in the face a few times, then ring 999 and tell the Guards you've been mugged and you chased after the guy to wear he lives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Neglect of duty IMO. He could complain here:
    http://www.gsoc.ie/

    But that obviously doesn't solve the laptop problem.

    IMO get some mates together and call around to get it yourself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 482 ✭✭Jim_Kiy


    Call around show the thief your evidence..tell him you are going to cops with it unless you get the laptop back.
    Cops prob cant act on this sort of 'evidence'..took years to get CCTV accepted.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    He has absolutely everything and it is 100% his machine, otherwise he wouldn't have screenshots of everything the thief's doing!

    His one concern with posting the photos is that the person will get spooked and ditch the laptop somewhere and never get it back.

    Tell him to get in touch with a solicitor to advise him.

    The Gardaí should absolutely be following this up if he can prove it's his machine and a solicitor will know the best way to proceed if they're failing to do anything.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,736 ✭✭✭Gannicus


    ring 999 say there's been a robbery and you've followed the person back to their house then have them show up in a squad car and present the evidence.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,450 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Have all the proof that your friend owns the laptop then go to the Garda station and if they refuse to do anything then inform them that the pictures and details of the thief will be posted online and sent to the local newspapers with detailed information on the lack of Garda help.
    maybe don't use the word thief for legal issues

    just say it's pictures taken by the laptop


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 75 ✭✭Jake187


    And this is a good example why the gardai arent all 'shining' as people like to think. The laptop is located. He has proof. Why cant the gardai do something about it? ... But ...
    he should go around and get it himself. you sought the help of the gardai and they have failed.
    Call around to where the laptop is and take it back.

    Not a bad idea. But if he went around demanding his laptop the gardai would sooner come out, on behalf of the thief, to make the owner get lost. Sure you can olny imagine what the Gardai would do if he forced his way in to retrive it. Its a mad world I tell you.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    maybe don't use the word thief for legal issues

    just say it's pictures taken by the laptop

    Say "the removal of the laptop without your permission".

    Also if you mention to the Gardi (for whatever reason) that you are going to go around yourself and get it, tell them that you are aware that you going there might lead to a breach of the peace - but seeing that they are unwilling to do anything, you have no choice.
    Also explain to the Gardi that if such a breach of the peace occurs - you will be quite willing to testify in court and to the media as to the in-action of Gardi that forced you into this situation!

    ...State the above to them and then wait to see how quick they are willing to still sit around and do nothing!


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,941 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    Sometimes you have to take matters into your own hand. A group of you need to go around there, confront this lowlife and get he's property back. I would never encourage violence but if you have everything you need to prove its he's then I think you have nothing to lose. If worse comes to worse the guards will be called, you'll have proof that you own it and hopefully justice will be served.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 75 ✭✭Jake187


    Op,
    Your friend has a 3 choices.

    1, Get a few realible mates with him and knock on his door. Rush him and get the laptop back and be down the road quick. No waiting on the gardai to arrive cause they will come out for his call if the scumbag rings them. (problem with this is, getting so called realible mates to help & as each day goes by the laptop is more likely to be sold on)

    2, If getting the laptop back isnt likely. A baseball bat, a hood and catching him as he walks down the road one night is alright too.

    3, Do nothing. Pretty much take it up the ass.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,627 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    There's an old urban myth than can be adapted.

    "I want my laptop back, I know who has it and where it is."
    "We can't help."
    "But it's at (clearly gives address)"
    "Okay. One second" Pause. (Talking to pretend person) "You have it? Great." (To guards) "No worries, my friends got some hunting rifles, we'll nip over and sort it out ourselvwes. Cheers."
    Hang up.
    Head over.
    Wait for guards to arrive, apprach door, clearly unarmed.
    "You said you had rifles!"
    "You said you couldn't help."

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,158 ✭✭✭frag420


    Il happily volunteer to snap on the scumbag, who's with me??

    Where you based??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭micropig


    Gardai are too busy setting up road blocks in rural Mayo to deal with such trivial issues such as theft, even when they have the details of the thief....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    Problem is, the Gardaí can't do much without a warrant, and a judge (usually technophobe) has to sign off on one of those. Otherwise scenario is as follows when they call at the thief's door.
    Scumbag: eh, wot yis pigs want?
    Garda: Ah hello Declan, good to see you again, wondering if we might have a few words?
    Scumbag: eh....I aint done nuthin....wot yis want.
    Garda: Well, it has come to our attention that a laptop was stolen in the vicinity of (X). You wouldn't happen to know anything about that now would you?
    Scumbag: I bleedin did not nick it
    Garda: Do you mind if we step inside for a minute?
    Scumbag: Yis got a warrant??? didn't think so....quit hasslin me. Dis is police brutality.

    End result: Thief dumps/sells laptop on before anyone can search the place.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭marcsignal


    Hey guys,

    Looking for advice on behalf of my friend.

    His laptop was stolen last week. He has........

    tell him to buy a new laptop


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭micropig


    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    Problem is, the Gardaí can't do much without a warrant, and a judge (usually technophobe) has to sign off on one of those. Otherwise scenario is as follows when they call at the thief's door.


    End result: Thief dumps/sells laptop on before anyone can search the place.

    Or perhaps:

    Gardai have screenshot etc of thief using laptop. Gardai show proof to judge. Judge agrees to warrant. Warrant is granted and laptop recovered. At the very least thief is done for handling stolen goods.

    I know, I know, I'm a dreamer....:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    micropig wrote: »
    Or perhaps:

    Gardas have screenshot etc of thief using laptop. Gardai show proof to judge. Judge agrees to warrant. Warrant is granted and laptop recovered. At the very least thief is done for handling stolen goods.

    I know, I know, I'm a dreamer....:)
    What does a screenshot prove? To a judge it's just an image of a random person in their own house - where's the link with laptop?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 75 ✭✭Jake187


    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    ...... End result: Thief dumps/sells laptop on before anyone can search the place.

    Your post said it best man.
    Thats why I kinda hate the legal system. Sure I could go out tonight, jump and kick the living crap out of someone I dont like. They see its me. But I get off side before any gardai turns up.

    I'll get away with it. My word versus his. Its pretty fu**ed up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭micropig


    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    What does a screenshot prove? To a judge it's just an image of a random person in their own house - where's the link with laptop?

    The prey software installed in the computer would establish that the laptop was used after the time of theft.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭John Doe1


    Nuke the bastard!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 325 ✭✭Athlone_Bhoy


    What software can you use to track a laptop?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    Go round to the cop shop and ask as people have said to speak to a sargeant. Get his name and explain the situation. While you're there, ask for the contact details of the Garda ombudsman, as you're concerned at the lack of motivation from the previous Garda you spoke with about this matter.
    Previously, when I encountered reticence from Gardai to get off their flabby arses, put the donuts and the Daily Mail down and do their job, I've resorted to calling the ombudsman in front of them and requesting a complaint form.
    Gardai started investigating quick enough after that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    Tell the guards you hid some weed in the battery component of the laptop and I'm sure they will be straight over...


  • Registered Users Posts: 385 ✭✭Mully_2011


    Go round with a few mates and a few hurleys and batter the **** take it back by force Its your mates propertyhe worked for it the gards aren't going to do a tap take back what is rightfully your mates and batter the **** while your at it so he thinks twice about begin a robbing little ****


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