Man throws 5-year-old to alligators

metaoblivia · 17-10-2007 7:43pm #1

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hWFY-0KU0J3T8Xpwp5LrzFkPQFlg

A man in Florida received the death penalty for throwing a 5-year-old girl into a swamp where she was mauled to death by alligators. According to another report, she was alive when the gators attacked.

That's a pretty awful way to go, imo. I wonder if he thought that by throwing her in the swamp and letting the alligators kill her, he wouldn't be directly responsible for her death....

Dudess · 17-10-2007 7:46pm

Cue posters saying it's funny and calling me "PC" etc for objecting.

seamus · 17-10-2007 7:49pm

Quatisha Maycock and her mother Shandelle Maycock were kidnapped November 1998 from their home by Braddy, who was angry at being rebuffed by the mother after meeting her at a church gathering.

Every time you see a Discovery channel special about vicious criminals and childkillers, they're always upstanding members of the local church.

What is it about Church that attracts all the sickos?

curiousxxx1 · 17-10-2007 8:13pm

seamus wrote: »

Every time you see a Discovery channel special about vicious criminals and childkillers, they're always upstanding members of the local church.

What is it about Church that attracts all the sickos?

I have thought the same too, it's amazing... I think they feel they are God's own children e.t.c.. total Gobsh!te
She was only a child.... I am glad he got the death penalty!

SpitfireIV · 17-10-2007 8:16pm

They should throw that scumbag in with a pack of alligators!!

Rhyme · 17-10-2007 8:24pm

metaoblivia wrote: »

I wonder if he thought that by throwing her in the swamp and letting the alligators kill her, he wouldn't be directly responsible for her death....

He'd need to be an idiot to believe that, condemnation and all that.

Should be fed to those gators... piece by piece.

county · 17-10-2007 8:28pm

truly a horrible story

Trojan911 · 17-10-2007 9:22pm

Randomly select a torture method from the running "Torture" post & put him through it....

But I quite like the idea of chucking him in to the allegators, tied up & alive...

TJ911...

Nevyn · 17-10-2007 9:34pm

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mhmhcwojmhkf/

Mossy Monk · 17-10-2007 9:44pm

Thaedydal wrote: »

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mhmhcwojmhkf/

I am shocked and appalled at both the original post and that. A ****ed up world we live in.

Trojan911 · 17-10-2007 10:03pm

Mossy Monk wrote: »

I am shocked and appalled at both the original post and that. A ****ed up world we live in.

I have to agree 100%.... What horrible people exist amongst us...

TJ911...

Manic Moran · 17-10-2007 11:19pm

Trojan911 wrote: »

Randomly select a torture method from the running "Torture" post & put him through it....

But I quite like the idea of chucking him in to the allegators, tied up & alive...

TJ911...

Unfortunately, there are legal questions over whether the current lethal injection system qualifies as 'cruel and unusual', so I don't see much hope going for the alligator concept.

NTM

MooseJam · 17-10-2007 11:26pm

I love children but I couldn't eat a whole one

Oriel · 17-10-2007 11:38pm

MooseJam wrote: »

I love children but I couldn't eat a whole one

Neither could the alligator

Think of the poor people in Africa!

Creature · 18-10-2007 12:28am

Thaedydal wrote: »

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mhmhcwojmhkf/

Thats pretty ****ed up n all but I lol'd when I read the article title and saw Steve Staunton's face beside it.

Muff_Daddy · 18-10-2007 1:14am

CroppyBoy1798 wrote: »

They should throw that scumbag in with a pack of alligators!!

My thoughts exactly!

Reku · 18-10-2007 8:06am

The big question is how do you deal with people like this, killing them just raises the issue of how are you any better, leaving them alive just leaves others at risk, as lets face it, when **** like this makes sense in your head I really doubt you are EVER going to learn any better...

We need a "No Escape" style island to deport such people to...

someothername · 18-10-2007 8:27am

farohar wrote: »

The big question is how do you deal with people like this, killing them just raises the issue of how are you any better, leaving them alive just leaves others at risk, as lets face it, when **** like this makes sense in your head I really doubt you are EVER going to learn any better...

We need a "No Escape" style island to deport such people to...

+1
you are spot on there , there is no way people like that can be fixed. throw them all on an island and leave them there to rot

arybvtcw0eolkf · 18-10-2007 8:49am

Dudess wrote: »

Cue posters saying it's funny and calling me "PC" etc for objecting.

Are you getting your PC knickers in a twist again?...

I'll bleed'n untwist 'em for ya

To the post, I'm really opposed to the death penalty. But I can understand people wanting blood revenge for a crime like this.

However I don't think its in our hands to decide on what should be gods judgement.

coolhandc · 18-10-2007 8:54am

was it gods judgement to have this 5 year old kid mauled to death by an alligator?!this sick fcuk needs to be tortured in the worst way possible.

Triangle · 18-10-2007 8:59am

Mairt,
That's a riduclous thing to say.

So why send them to jail in the firts place then - why not let them roam round killing people and live on the pretext that god will sort everything out!!!!

arybvtcw0eolkf · 18-10-2007 9:01am

Triangle wrote: »

Mairt,
That's a riduclous thing to say.

So why send them to jail in the firts place then - why not let them roam round killing people and live on the pretext that god will sort everything out!!!!

Lock them away for the protection of society and punish their crimes, but I don't believe its in our hands to take another life.

SpitfireIV · 18-10-2007 10:05am

Mairt wrote: »

Lock them away for the protection of society and punish their crimes, but I don't believe its in our hands to take another life.

He took the decision though to take a life though, a childs life....I'm sure she didnt have a choice in the matter! I'm still for tossing him in with alligators alive :mad:

arybvtcw0eolkf · 18-10-2007 10:06am

CroppyBoy1798 wrote: »

He took the decision though to take a life though, a childs life....I'm sure she didnt have a choice in the matter! I'm still for tossing him in with alligators alive :mad:

Oh so am I.

Revenge is very sweet, but I don't believe in a courts right to put another humanbeing to death, thats all.

Slow Motion · 18-10-2007 10:12am

Give 'em a frontal labotomy, turn them into drooling idiots and have them clean toilets or some such for the rest of their lives.

cjt156 · 18-10-2007 11:34am

Mairt wrote: »

I don't believe in a courts right to put another human being to death

I do, terminate with extreme prejudice. Anyone care to explain why not?

Stercus Accidit · 18-10-2007 11:38am

Sentence him to a nice quick death, but during transport he has to do community service or some bullsh1t excuse, at an alligator farm.

Then at gun point he better clean them gators boi!

And dont feed them for a while.

Put him in prison for a while also, lots of nice showers with the other inmates, come on death is too good for this sh1te.

Tigger · 18-10-2007 11:48am

Dudess wrote: »

Cue posters saying it's funny and calling me "PC" etc for objecting.

objecting to what

to throwing kids to alligators?

or to the death penalty

r3nu4l · 18-10-2007 11:49am

Trojan911 wrote: »

Randomly select a torture method from the running "Torture" post & put him through it....

coolhandc wrote: »

...this sick fcuk needs to be tortured in the worst way possible.

So who's going to perform this torture then and what kind of people are they that they can torture another human being?

Two wrongs make a right? Nope, I can't accept that in this context.

I don't have any answers but I think you'd have to be a pretty sick fcuk yourself to advocate or participate in torture of someone, no matter what they had done.

Tigger · 18-10-2007 11:50am

Thaedydal wrote: »

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mhmhcwojmhkf/

as yer sig sez halloween is coming

so lets burn him on the bonfire

Vegeta · 18-10-2007 11:52am

I honestly think the death penelty is too good for some people

Put them on an island far removed from society doing back breaking physical labour with no mental stimulation at all.

radiospan · 18-10-2007 11:53am

This is a sick story alright, but I thought most people in Ireland would be against the death penalty? Sure, this guy should be locked away for life, but posts here seem to be advocating some kind of state sponsored torture/murder punishments? The government executing innocent families? (Timmymaggot's post) Is that really what people want?

Can't believe so many people here are advocating torture, and seem to have the idea of the sicker and more painful the torture, the better.

Tigger · 18-10-2007 11:54am

farohar wrote: »

The big question is how do you deal with people like this, killing them just raises the issue of how are you any better, leaving them alive just leaves others at risk, as lets face it, when **** like this makes sense in your head I really doubt you are EVER going to learn any better...

We need a "No Escape" style island to deport such people to...

i disagree completetly

either life means life for serious crimes and one can opt for the death penalty if one has given up on an appeal

or a simple mirror retrubution

do it have it do to you

stovelid · 18-10-2007 11:58am

cjt156 wrote: »

I do, terminate with extreme prejudice. Anyone care to explain why not?

If you abhor him taking life in such a cruel way, it's hypocritical to want to do (or want the state to do) the same to him.

If somebody did that to your family, it's understandable to want extreme revenge but the state is supposed to impartially consider the crime, and not exact mob revenge on behalf of victims.

I think keeping him away from society for life is the best course of action.

Tigger · 18-10-2007 11:59am

r3nu4l wrote: »

So who's going to perform this torture then and what kind of people are they that they can torture another human being?

there atre many people who would like to tortore people

its illegal at the mo and makes them criminal;s but they say a man is happy if his job is his hobby

Two wrongs make a right? Nope, I can't accept that in this context.

that is yer right

I don't have any answers but I think you'd have to be a pretty sick fcuk yourself to advocate or participate in torture of someone, no matter what they had done.

to advocate the torture of tihis man is not the same as to advocate the tortire of a human

MooseJam · 18-10-2007 12:01pm

cjt156 wrote: »

I do, terminate with extreme prejudice. Anyone care to explain why not?

innocent people would be put to death

big b · 18-10-2007 12:06pm

I want him fed to the crocs, and make it snappy.:cool:

6th · 18-10-2007 12:06pm

seamus wrote: »

Every time you see a Discovery channel special about vicious criminals and childkillers, they're always upstanding members of the local church.

What is it about Church that attracts all the sickos?

Why not pop over to the Christianity Forum and ask?

radiospan · 18-10-2007 12:07pm

rbd wrote: »

to advocate the torture of tihis man is not the same as to advocate the tortire of a human

Ridiculous. Of course he is a human. Very sick and ****ed up yes, but still human.

How arrogant can you be to assume that the human race is perfect, and that any sick, evil person like this mustn't be human?

Tigger · 18-10-2007 12:13pm

plazzTT wrote: »

Ridiculous. Of course he is a human. Very sick and ****ed up yes, but still human.

How arrogant can you be to assume that the human race is perfect, and that any sick, evil person like this mustn't be human?

attack the post not the poster

i don't assume the human race is perfect

i think that accepting evil is encouraging it and it'll take courage to fix the world or at least try

now kindly don't flame me again

if you have an acual point make it and i'll depate it with you

if yer a nutter flame warrior with no debating skills then (expletive deleted)

MooseJam · 18-10-2007 12:14pm

Timmymaggot wrote: »

I hate that sort of over-zealous, burn them at the stake attidude whenever some crime inolves a child. How is it any different if its an adult who was brutally murdered?

kids are sweet and innocent, an adult is possibly a total bastard, plus adults have lived a lot longer so it's not so bad

Tigger · 18-10-2007 12:16pm

MooseJam wrote: »

innocent people would be put to death

this is why i feel the only real answer is to give real life sentences and if the offender wishes he/she can opt for the death penaty
i feel that this would mean the guilty could die and the innocent or highly optomistic could appeal

Tigger · 18-10-2007 12:25pm

Timmymaggot wrote: »

He called you arrogant. Hardly flaming now for somebody who thinks torture is acceptable.

Adults are just kids that have grown up.

oh its you again

first off he called my post redicilious ie worth of ridicule surley another word for flaming

then he called me arrogant

thats flaming
that crap flaming but flaming none the less

and read the post he referd to

i answered the hypothetical post with a possaible answer

its rhetoric
its disscussion

in a true democracy if the majority want touture on the books then thats the way to go

its about the flowing discussion of ideas and idealogoys this brillian cyber communication world we call the internet bud not about ramming antiquated ideas of right and wrong and justice down each others throats

that Justice Paul Carney Fella the other day said some thing about the irish justice system being anout the execution of the law as the statutes hold them rather than justice.

Am i likley to start a petition to put torture on the books

hardly

but i'm able to understand the gut feelings of those who feel something more than we have here in ireland is nessiciary

Tigger · 18-10-2007 12:30pm

Timmymaggot wrote: »

Attacking the post just like the charter says.

why

do0

you

type

like this?

Anybody who advocates torture is an evil scumbag. Now you logically follow that one to its conclusion.

well i can see i've met my match:rolleyes: here

Tigger · 18-10-2007 12:38pm

Timmymaggot wrote: »

Stick to the topic sugartits, I'm not getting into any pointless arguments here.

I graciously accept yer concession

cjt156 · 18-10-2007 12:54pm

stovelid wrote: »

If you abhor him taking life in such a cruel way, it's hypocritical to want to do (or want the state to do) the same to him.

I disagree, punishment and retribution are valid penalties for a crime. The ultimate crime (murder) warrants the ultimate penalty.

MooseJam wrote: »

innocent people would be put to death

That's an objection to a flawed justice system, not the death penalty. "innocent people could be sent to jail" isn't a valid objection to a jail sentence,

MooseJam · 18-10-2007 12:58pm

cjt156 wrote: »

That's an objection to a flawed justice system, not the death penalty. "innocent people could be sent to jail" isn't a valid objection to a jail sentence,

yes but innocent people can be let out of jail when the error is discovered, innocent people can't be brought back to life though

Tigger · 18-10-2007 1:00pm

MooseJam wrote: »

yes but innocent people can be let out of jail when the error is discovered, innocent people can't be brought back to life though

this is why i feel the only real answer is to give real life sentences and if the offender wishes he/she can opt for the death penaty
i feel that this would mean the guilty could die and the innocent or highly optomistic could appeal

MooseJam · 18-10-2007 1:01pm

rbd wrote: »

this is why i feel the only real answer is to give real life sentences and if the offender wishes he/she can opt for the death penaty
i feel that this would mean the guilty could die and the innocent or highly optomistic could appeal

seems fair enough to me

Reku · 18-10-2007 1:07pm

rbd wrote: »

i disagree completetly

either life means life for serious crimes and one can opt for the death penalty if one has given up on an appeal

or a simple mirror retrubution

do it have it do to you

Clearly you have never seen the film "No Escape", go watch it, then come back and make a counter point which at least is a disagreement/agreement, not an agreement claiming to be a disagreement.

If you even took the time to look up the film's IMDB listing:

Robbins is sent to prison for the assassination of his general officer, a prison you only get out of when you die. Since nobody ever gets out of the prison, nobody knows how the prison is like. The prison manager has realized this and bought himself an island (playground) called "Absolom" where the worst prisoners are let lose to create an isolated barbaric society where the strongest men rule - a living hell. This is where Robbins is dropped off after he almost kills the prison manager.

cjt156 · 18-10-2007 1:08pm

@moosejam & timmymaggot
Again, that's like saying give a murderer community service; if an innocent person is convicted then at least he won't have gone to prison. Your problem is with the trial system, not the sentence.

So do you have no problem with a death sentence if someone is 100%, no doubt, self-confessed guilty?

Man throws 5-year-old to alligators

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